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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAccording to the GOP,any idiot could have found and taken out Osama bin Laden.
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Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nt
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)which I guess means that friend thinks the GWB was less than an idiot?
applegrove
(118,020 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)He took office January 2001, 9/11 was later that year.
He left office January 2008.
Not quite 7 1/2 years later.
applegrove
(118,020 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Iggo
(47,487 posts)He was special.
"It's hard." --- Dim Son.
Confusious
(8,317 posts)He was a moron. There's a difference, see?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Tennessee Gal
(6,160 posts)He failed to take him out.
Shame on them all.
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Turbineguy
(37,212 posts)He took idiot to a whole new dimension.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)malaise
(267,813 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)It takes a skilled machinist days of work to craft the gun.
The Pentagon was the cocked gun pointed at Bin Laden, and The Accidental President couldn't figure out how to pull the trigger.
And Obama had to spend 3 years figure out where Bin Laden was before the situation was "idiot-ready".
malaise
(267,813 posts)that I'm lovin' it
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)And didn't even try.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)But the fact is that "any idiot" didn't get it done.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Not only was OBL well connected to the House of Saud and the House of Bush, but he was a useful tool alive to help justify Bush's illegal and immoral GWOT. After they gave him safe passage out of Tora Bora into Pakistan, I suspect they always had a pretty good idea where OBL was. And they were quite happy keeping him under house arrest so they could use him when it was politically expedient to remind the American people that the 9/11 boogyman was still on the loose.
Essentially, the same military, analysts, and intel were available to Bush as it was to Obama. The difference was Obama was willing to go after him, Bush wasn't.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Instead he was so smart he used OBL for his own means?
So the saying should be that if Bush was an idiot he would have gotten OBL, but Bush was too smart? According to the GOP.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)I'm going by the OP's statement that some republicans are saying "any idiot could have gotten OBL". As usual, I disagree with their simplistic talking point. I'd counsel these morons to ask why Bush, with the same tools at his disposal as Obama had, was unable to get him in 7-1/2 years. I think the only logical conclusion is, because he didn't want to.
I think Bush actually played up his "idiot" personna...it probably helped him to get away with some pretty criminal policies - the "idiots" that voted for him didn't have a problem voting for a guy that reminded them of themselves and the Democrats probably bought the "this guy is an idiot" because, otherwise, we'd be confronted with a very inconvenient truth - that we were dealing with a sociopath in the WH.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)that would mean he was a sociopath criminal. And they would be right.
The GOP is right, any idiot could have ordered the military to get Osama, but since they had their socipath in the WH, Osama stayed alive all these years.
Any idiot would have ordered Osama killed but since their lower than an idiot Bush didn't do that simple thing, they are pissing themselves silly.
MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)When the Repubs cry about how Obama has politicized his success, I think back on Cheney monopolizing my tv with his visions of OBL in the shape of a mushroom cloud, and I laugh and laugh.
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)who were not idiots and called all the shots. He was a useful idiot for their purposes. I mean who can forget him reading The Goat Book to elementary students on 9/11? The look of a Clueless, Useful Idiot. Or Mission Accomplished?
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Most people reacted to Bush's "My Pet Goat" either with sympathy ("gee, I could see myself in his position" or with disdain "what a buffoon, why's he sitting there like a moron while the country is under attack?" but there's a 3rd option - he played his role perfectly on 9/11. Because no forceful reaction meant no military action.
saras
(6,670 posts)I think it was the cocaine.
GWB
jenmito
(37,326 posts)play and get shown on other shows and the truth will get out.
spanone
(135,635 posts)Autumn
(44,758 posts)so fuck them. Obama did.
flvegan
(64,389 posts)Okay. No big surprise, but good to hear them admit.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)--Bill O'Reilly
Rincewind
(1,199 posts)G. W. Bush was not just any idiot.