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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:15 PM May 2012

President Obama's Speech Tonight - Your Opinion


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A perfect job. He got it exactly right.
4 (57%)
I hated it. More time in Afghanistan? For what?
2 (29%)
I'm going to have to think about it some more and get more facts.
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If Afghanistan is not to become chaotic, we need to stay.
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This was one of Obama's worst speeches ever.
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I'm glad our military will be scaled down.
0 (0%)
I don't believe the troop reductions are fast enough.
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I have no opinion about it.
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President Obama's Speech Tonight - Your Opinion (Original Post) MineralMan May 2012 OP
Thanks for your votes. Keep 'em coming. MineralMan May 2012 #1
I think he did a good job. It was a bit vague, but it had to be. TheWraith May 2012 #2
We should have been out years ago. Daniel537 May 2012 #3
I think we should never have been there MineralMan May 2012 #4
We got out of Iraq pretty easily in the end Daniel537 May 2012 #7
It took too long, though, and the end result is not yet visible. MineralMan May 2012 #8
We were there 8 years as opposed to 11 in Afghanistan. Daniel537 May 2012 #11
And it was a much worse decision to go to Iraq. MineralMan May 2012 #12
The speech was very good as usual. MrSlayer May 2012 #5
Pitch perfect and reminded people that the Iraq war was not about Osama!! I want the troops home Pisces May 2012 #6
+1 JNelson6563 May 2012 #10
Good speech as always; bad policy. baldguy May 2012 #9
Not fast enough. Texasgal May 2012 #13

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
2. I think he did a good job. It was a bit vague, but it had to be.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

He's threading the needle of extracting us from Afghanistan ASAP while trying not to leave a power vacuum. Hence we clean up as much of the mess as we can, get the troops out within a couple years, and offer some secondhand support to the Afghan government while they're trying to stabilize the rest.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
4. I think we should never have been there
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:29 PM
May 2012

in the first place. Our meddling in the Middle East never works out. That said, Bush got us in there, and getting out isn't easy without creating even more turmoil.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
7. We got out of Iraq pretty easily in the end
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:36 PM
May 2012

when everybody thought it was going to collapse. And there's probably more Al-Qaeda there today than in Afghanistan, since by the CIA's own estimate there's no more than 100 of those guys left in Afghanistan.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
11. We were there 8 years as opposed to 11 in Afghanistan.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:46 PM
May 2012

Lots more lives and money lost there as well. I just don't buy the doom and gloom coming from the neocons about Al-Qaeda taking over once again. Remember how strong they were in Iraq during the early years? By Panetta's own estimate Al-Qaeda has been reduced to third-party terrorist status is Afghanistan. I really don't understand why we need to keep pushing this thing so long. Almost seems to me that we're trying to redeem ourselves for Vietnam at this point.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
12. And it was a much worse decision to go to Iraq.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:56 PM
May 2012

We had no business there at all. I'm glad we're essentially out of that country. We will be out of Afghanistan, too, in time. Now, if we can just resolve not to do that stuff again...

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
5. The speech was very good as usual.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:33 PM
May 2012

That's where he shines. He can read the phone book and make it compelling. However, I'm not thrilled that we're going to be wasting billions more on an unwinnable situation. At least they're pulling the majority of the troops and leaving the strike forces to do police actions, the way Afghanistan should have been pursued from the beginning.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
6. Pitch perfect and reminded people that the Iraq war was not about Osama!! I want the troops home
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:35 PM
May 2012

sooner, but I appreciate the way the President is handling it.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. Good speech as always; bad policy.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:40 PM
May 2012

We can't go around the world "nation building" when we have a wealthy & influential faction at home bent on dismantling our own nation.

Texasgal

(17,037 posts)
13. Not fast enough.
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

This whole thing has been a disaster from day one.

Get the troops out and stop bleeding money we don't have.

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