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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:42 PM Mar 2015

SAE Fraternity alums are smattered throughout government

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/09/1369591/-A-deeper-examination-of-the-sheer-joy-of-Oklahoma-students-chanting-about-hanging-niggers-from-trees?detail=email

A deeper examination of the sheer joy of Oklahoma students chanting about hanging n*gg*rs from trees

This weekend, this video was released showing students, both men and women, excitedly chanting this:

“There will never be a n*gg*r in SAE.
There will never be a n*gg*r in SAE.
You can hang him from a tree, but he can never sign with me
There will never be a n*gg*r in SAE.”

....

In fact, 27 days ago, people on Reddit were talking about this exact same chant, and stating that it was a required chant to enter the SAE fraternity at the University of Texas.



So, who in government was a member of this hate group? Of course its not been proven that all chapters of the fraternity were required to chant those words, but if it was as widespread as reported, there's a lot of politicians (and others) with explaining to do.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sigma_Alpha_Epsilon_members

List of Sigma Alpha Epsilon members


U.S. Senate

Max Baucus - U.S. Senator from Montana (D), Stanford University
J.C.W. Beckham - Former U.S. Senator from Kentucky (D); youngest Governor of Kentucky; namesake of Beckham County, Oklahoma, Centre College
Jim DeMint - U.S. Senator from South Carolina (R), University of Tennessee
Pete Domenici - Former U.S. Senator from New Mexico (R), University of New Mexico
Peter Fitzgerald - Former U.S. Senator from Illinois (R), Dartmouth College
John J. Hickey - Former Wyoming governor and U.S. Senator (D), University of Wyoming
Johnny Isakson - U.S. Senator from Georgia (R), University of Georgia
Connie Mack III - Former Florida U.S. Senator (R), University of Florida
Larry Pressler - Former South Dakota U.S. Senator (R), University of South Dakota
David Pryor - Former Arkansas Governor and U.S. Senator (D), University of Arkansas
Mark Pryor - U.S. Senator from Arkansas (D), University of Arkansas
George Smathers- Former U.S. Senator and Congressman from Florida (D), philanthropist, University of Florida
Dennis Chavez - Former U.S. Senator from New Mexico University of New Mexico
Richard Russell - Former US Senator from Georgia University of Georgia

U.S. House of Representatives

Bill Archer - Former U.S. Representative (R), Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, University of Texas at Austin
Andy Barr (U.S. politician) - US Representative from Kentucky (R) University of Virginia
David E. Bonior - Former US Representative from Michigan (D), University of Iowa
Allen Boyd - Former US Representative from Florida (D), Florida State University
Jay Dickey - Former US Representative from Arkansas (R), University of Arkansas
David Dreier - US Representative from California (R), University of La Verne
Hamilton C. Jones - Former US Representative from North Carolina (D) UNC Chapel Hill
Thomas W. Ewing - Former US Representative from Illinois (R), Millikin University
Paul Gillmor - Former US Representative from Ohio (R), Ohio Wesleyan University
J. Alex McMillan - Former US Representative from North Carolina (R), UNC Chapel Hill
Ralph Regula - Former US Congressman from Ohio (R), Mount Union College
John Shadegg - Former US Congressman from Arizona (R), University of Arizona
Charles Walter "Charlie" Stenholm - Former US Congressman from Texas (D), Texas Tech University
Gilbert Brown Patterson - Former US Congressman from North Carolina (D) UNC Chapel Hill

Governors

Sherman Adams - Former Governor of New Hampshire (R); Representative from New Hampshire's 2nd District; White House Chief of Staff, Dartmouth College
Haley Barbour - Former Governor of Mississippi (R); former chairman of the Republican National Committee, University of Mississippi
Joe Foss - Former South Dakota Governor (R); Medal of Honor recipient; leading USMC ace pilot, 1st Commissioner of the AFL, former NRA President, University of South Dakota
William L. Guy - Former North Dakota Governor (D), North Dakota State University
Gary Johnson - Former Governor of New Mexico (L), University of New Mexico
Paul B. Johnson, Jr. - Former Governor of Mississippi (D), University of Mississippi
John Lynch - Former Governor of New Hampshire (D), University of New Hampshire
Sidney S. McMath - Former Governor of Arkansas (D), Marine General & Renowned Trial Lawyer, University of Arkansas
Robert D. Ray - Former Governor of Iowa (R), Drake University
Robert D. Blue - Former Governor of Iowa, Drake University
Brian Sandoval - Current Governor of Nevada University of Nevada


Other Notable Government Officials

Henry M. Paulson - Former U.S. Treasury Secretary, Former CEO of Goldman Sachs Group, Dartmouth College
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SAE Fraternity alums are smattered throughout government (Original Post) Scuba Mar 2015 OP
They should all be asked about it; but they would probably all deny participating in it el_bryanto Mar 2015 #1
Several Dems, cwydro Mar 2015 #2
Several Conservative Dems tenderfoot Mar 2015 #3
They were asshats at my school. cwydro Mar 2015 #5
21 R to 17 Ds geek_sabre Mar 2015 #4
I did not say "way more." cwydro Mar 2015 #6
But racism does seem to belong to people with conservative "values"... tenderfoot Mar 2015 #8
Racist chant reported in OK, TX, Arkansas SAE chapters Dems to Win Mar 2015 #7

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
1. They should all be asked about it; but they would probably all deny participating in it
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015

Allen Boyd was a member of SAE? That's depressing.

Bryant

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
3. Several Conservative Dems
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 03:59 PM
Mar 2015

but yeah, more Republicans than Dems.

FWIW, the SAE house on Case Western Reserve University's campus in the 1980's was well stocked in aryan assholes. Easily the biggest douchebag frat on campus.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
5. They were asshats at my school.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:07 PM
Mar 2015

I remember them well.

I had an assistantship in the intramural department. I scheduled all the intramural sports.

The Sig Eps continually came to my office to tell me why they could NOT play at the time scheduled (usually for some stupid frat thing).

When I advised them that we did not change the schedules of games and that they had signed an agreement about just that rule, I was called a "b----." I was also called a "c---" as they walked away.

geek_sabre

(731 posts)
4. 21 R to 17 Ds
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:02 PM
Mar 2015

Not exactly "way more."

Racism doesn't just belong to the republican party, as much as you want to believe it.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. I did not say "way more."
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 04:09 PM
Mar 2015

Perhaps read my response again

I didn't mention racism at all.

This thread simply was discussing politicians who were SAE members.

Wow.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
8. But racism does seem to belong to people with conservative "values"...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:32 PM
Mar 2015

like the 17 CONSERVATIVE Democrats on that list.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
7. Racist chant reported in OK, TX, Arkansas SAE chapters
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:12 PM
Mar 2015

I skimmed that Reddit thread and there were reports that the recorded chant was commonly heard at SAE houses in Oklahoma, Texas, and Arkansas.

Other SAE members from Illinois, the northeast, and even the deep south made comments that they had never heard the chant.

Not conclusive evidence, I know.

Doesn't sound like good news about the Pryors.

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