It's bad enough that the TPP is about robbing the poor to pay the rich...

[MannyGoldstein]

But that our partners in the thing flog and kill fellow humans because of the way they were born... I'm close to the breaking point. I feel very, very sad tonight.

It's been decades since I didn't vote for the Democrat in a general election. But I'm not sure if I can pull a lever for anyone complicit in this filth.

Enough.

[Man from Pickens]

1. Sorry, not acceptable

you're not allowed to have principles come election time

You will fall in line and vote for Her Majesty and you'll like it!

POLLS!

SCOTUS SEATS!!

BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI!!!

your argument is invalid

[msongs]

3. the TPP is obama's punishment on America and he is not "Her Majesty" nt

[merrily]

5. Do you think Hillary would have rejected the TPP?

[Man from Pickens]

7. Wrongo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=67554

Yep, the TPP is yet another Hillary Clinton "accomplishment" as Secretary of State.

Ain't no way in hell to disassociate her from her own handiwork.

[Kelvin Mace]

2. And if they lose because they have alienated

their base, they will blame the base for not being "loyal".

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Unless it's Bernie "Ralph Nader" Sanders' fault

Or some bull#%*&.

[merrily]

6. Some DUers claim that the Democratic Party can win without its disaffected members. Maybe so.

Until 2008, I was voting without ever having heard of the DLC, Third Way, New Democrats, etc. Among those who know better than I did then, there is LOTE voting; and I don't know how many are willing to risk giving that up.

No matter how I vote in Boston, the Democratic candidate will win the electoral votes of Massachusetts, barring something huge--and I now follow polls well enough to know if that is a remote possibility.

My friends in the reddest counties in the US have the same luxury as I do, though not as much comfort.

Leftists in the 8 to 100 purples counties that will determine the next Presidential election have a much harder decision to make.

[Man from Pickens]

8. Ain't it great?

In a "democracy" 90% of the votes don't matter unless they are in one of the key battleground states.

[merrily]

13. Yes. Turns out, though it's counties, not states, even though all we hear about is states.

Boston is the bluest part of Massachusetts and Massachusetts is supposedly the bluest state.

Then again, in other systems that are not so tied to only two parties, the candidate who gets a minority of the votes can end up winning. So, I am not 100% sure which is worse.

[KMOD]

10. You must be younger than I thought.

Scott Brown recently won in Massachusetts. Just something to think about.

[merrily]

14. I don't know why you say that. People from 0 to 100 haven't heard of Third Way,

DLC or No Labels to this day.

Don't know what my age has to do with anything, either. I am surprised you assume I haven't thought about a historic race for the Senate in my own state.

For very good reasons, I strongly favored Capuano in the primary with Khazei being a distant second, but it seemed as though Coakley was the party favorite for some bizarre reason. "Funny" that, since she was the one of the four Dem primary candidates I thought least likely to win the general.

[KMOD]

16. Your age doesn't matter.

I just had a mental image of you being 55-65, and your comment made me feel perhaps I was off.

[MADem]

18. So did Charlie "Empty Suit" Baker--a completely craven Republican. Even more recently, too.

MA isn't perfect--they're sexist. It takes a LOT of money to overcome that bias.

Elizabeth Warren is the FIRST female senator -- ever -- from MA.

We've never had a female governor ""in her own right." We had one that fleeted up when her boss left for an ambassadorship.

[joshcryer]

9. Did you accidentally post the wrong link?

[KMOD]

11. I didn't get that either.

His link takes you to a post made here on DU.

[joshcryer]

15. It sounds like he's accusing them of "flog and killing fellow humans."

I don't even see how it relates to anything.

[KMOD]

17. lol

me either.

[JoePhilly]

19. Say what you want to really say ... don't be coy.

Manny, the truth teller ... is not "sure if I can pull a lever for anyone complicit in this filth."

Say what you want to say.

If you don't want to be "complicit in this filth" don't claim to not be "sure". Don't compromise yourself. Why are you allowing yourself to become "complicit"?