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CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:03 PM May 2012

The Friday Afternoon Challenge Returns to you! Today’s Challenge: The Worshipful Artist!

Artists have historically designed and/or graced the walls of houses of worship. Identify the artists whose works are displayed below, and the names of the places where they are found.

And as always, gentle folk, we do not cheat...

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The Friday Afternoon Challenge Returns to you! Today’s Challenge: The Worshipful Artist! (Original Post) CTyankee May 2012 OP
But, but, how do we find the answer if we don't cheat? Baitball Blogger May 2012 #1
It's called using Google tricks. It's not researching on Google, which is fine. CTyankee May 2012 #7
#1 is a trick question jberryhill May 2012 #2
Maybe the walls ARE the art, hmm? CTyankee May 2012 #4
Okay, smarty pants, then who painted them? jberryhill May 2012 #6
Oh, so now you want me to give you the answers? CTyankee May 2012 #8
Sherwin and Williams. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #9
Late Mannerists, I do believe. Important ouevre they had, old chap! CTyankee May 2012 #13
All so beautiful, I believe #5 is The Stations of the Cross. After that I'm clueless..n/t monmouth May 2012 #3
#5 Tansy_Gold May 2012 #5
Well.... CTyankee May 2012 #11
Oh. My. Goodness. Tansy_Gold May 2012 #12
You absolutely do! Have you seen these windows? CTyankee May 2012 #14
I am a huge huge huge fan of William Morris Tansy_Gold May 2012 #15
The leaves are the prime giveaway. CTyankee May 2012 #16
Oh yes Tansy_Gold May 2012 #18
Thanks. I didn't know that about Morris. I guess I always thought of him as an upper class CTyankee May 2012 #19
Morris was deeply and actively political. Tansy_Gold May 2012 #25
Number six has the look of Tiffany, but I can't find this window attributed to him. 1monster May 2012 #10
I'm wracking my brain Tansy_Gold May 2012 #21
Not that I know of. CTyankee May 2012 #23
you sent me in the right direction! finally found it Bluerthanblue May 2012 #26
Yes, a nice work, isn't it? CTyankee May 2012 #34
I'm a sucker for Bluerthanblue May 2012 #46
Clueless LASlibinSC May 2012 #17
I'm so glad you like it! CTyankee May 2012 #20
looking at number 6 IcyPeas May 2012 #22
It is stained glass. It is in a house of worship. CTyankee May 2012 #24
No 6 looks like Tiffany, but I don't think it is... joeybee12 May 2012 #27
My goodness. #s 1, 2, 3 and 4 have gone begging! CTyankee May 2012 #28
I really don't have a clue, but I'll take a wild guess and maybe learn something. sabrina 1 May 2012 #29
You know, I stay away from Michelangelo because he is SO famous and CTyankee May 2012 #36
#1 Tansy_Gold May 2012 #30
#2 looks similar to the Angelico at San Marco pinboy3niner May 2012 #32
number 2 is: IcyPeas May 2012 #31
I'm wondering how you pieced that together...the spanish chapel is gothic (late 14th century) CTyankee May 2012 #39
googled IcyPeas May 2012 #44
here are a few really amazing details from the fresco IcyPeas May 2012 #49
Ah, I get it. Didn't know about that site. I think of it mainly as the fresco with the CTyankee May 2012 #51
number one is: IcyPeas May 2012 #33
ah! Bluerthanblue May 2012 #37
Damn! you beat me to it! burrowowl May 2012 #54
Oh, that's wonderful! When was that? How come you got to visit there? CTyankee May 2012 #55
I lived in France for 20 years burrowowl May 2012 #60
lucky you! But I can understand missing your home. Esp. when loved ones are CTyankee May 2012 #61
Levallois-Perret burrowowl May 2012 #62
is #1 Bluerthanblue May 2012 #35
Yes, of course, Ronchamps. Recently in the news because Renzo Piano has updated CTyankee May 2012 #38
had no idea- Bluerthanblue May 2012 #40
Uh, oh. Now we have #3 and #4. Eek. CTyankee May 2012 #41
Here's One For You... WillyT May 2012 #42
Wow! Incredible. Where are these from? CTyankee May 2012 #43
Here Ya Go: WillyT May 2012 #45
It is very nice. Very spiritual. I love both examples. Really lovely... CTyankee May 2012 #47
More Here: WillyT May 2012 #48
That is beautiful! sabrina 1 May 2012 #50
Check This Out... The Architect's Website... WillyT May 2012 #53
Wow, somebody has flunked Western Art 101 by not guessing on 3 and 4. CTyankee May 2012 #52
I'll post answers later but one last hint: There are 3 artists involved in #3 and 4 CTyankee May 2012 #56
On number three I want to say it's a Caravaggio, but that's because Baitball Blogger May 2012 #57
I posted the answers earlier today... CTyankee May 2012 #58
This is going to be a lot of fun to follow. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #59

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
7. It's called using Google tricks. It's not researching on Google, which is fine.
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

There is a difference. If you know the subject at hand, you google that with other characteristics of the image and that often gets you the answer!

OR, sometimes you happen to know the art work itself. DUers are incredibly art oriented I have found. I sure can't stump them...

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
5. #5
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:16 PM
May 2012

The leaves and Celtic work in the background suggests Morris/Burne-Jones, but the figures seem too simple and flat. Anyway, I haven't located it specifically so i could be wrong.

#6 looks like L. C. Tiffany, but I haven't located that one either.

Fun, as always!

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
12. Oh. My. Goodness.
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:24 PM
May 2012

I usually don't get any of these without doing some research first. On this one, I only had to confirm. I actually KNOW SOMETHING about art!!!


Trinity Church, Boston, MA.

Stained Glass Windows, 1882, designed by Edward Burne-Jones, executed by William Morris.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
14. You absolutely do! Have you seen these windows?
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:26 PM
May 2012

I was there a couple of weeks ago and saw them for the first time. Very impressive.

Good work, Tansy!

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
15. I am a huge huge huge fan of William Morris
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

so I've seen pictures of a lot of his work and the other PRB artists. I recognized the style, especially the use of the leaves. That was the first thing that hinted at Morris.

Funny story -- a gazillion years go, 20 or more, was watching an episode of "This Old House" on PBS. They were remodeling/restoring a Victorian home in Boston, I think. One of the finishing touches was the carpeting, and as soon as they showed the design, I said, "Oh, that looks like a Morris design. Perfect for that era house." My husband looked at me and said, "What are you talking about?" Before I could explain, the hosts of the show (I think Bob Vila was still doing it, that's how long ago it was!) went into the history of William Morris's designs for fabrics, wallpapers, and carpet. Score one for me!

I still think#6 is Tiffany.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
16. The leaves are the prime giveaway.
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:38 PM
May 2012

I am fascinated by the the Pre-Raphaelites. Such lovely designs. It must have been a lovely world in which they lived.

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
18. Oh yes
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:53 PM
May 2012

They did indeed live in a lovely world, but it was very sheltered from the not-so-nice world around them. What makes Morris so fascinating to me is how he tried to connect the two worlds through art.

Another funny story -- I did my master's thesis on the sociology of arts & crafts shows and in my oral defense, I brought up Morris's Socialist (capital S) work. One of the professors, who happened to be a British transplant, immediately jumped down my throat and said "William Morris was no socialist!" One of the other professors said, very quietly, "Uh, yes he was." I then pointed out that in my bibliography I cited most of Morris's works as being available online at www.marxists.org. "Yes, Dr. T*****," I informed him, "William Morris was a Socialist. With a capital S."

Burne-Jones maybe not so much.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
19. Thanks. I didn't know that about Morris. I guess I always thought of him as an upper class
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:58 PM
May 2012

type, not terribly political, but then I didn't study what you did.

I love how Morris does attract people today. His design skill is so popular. Everyone loves him. It's interesting...I wonder if he would be surprised to find such wells of support here in the U.S. in this day and age...

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
25. Morris was deeply and actively political.
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
May 2012

One has to wonder what he might have accomplished had he not died so young (62).

His artistic and design influence, of course, crossed The Pond during his lifetime, as those Boston church windows testify. Though the "Arts & Crafts Movement" went in a slightly different direction here, much of the aesthetic philosophy of Morris and the PRB remained intact. Even now, as I'm shirking my paid work to surf through google images I'm coming across examples of Frank Lloyd Wright and other American artists and designers and architects who seem to have that same worldview as Morris: that there can be beauty in both function and form.

Morris was what you'd probably consider middle class, but his wife Jane Burden was lower working class (at best) and despite her long affair with Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Morris apparently loved her very sincerely, and they remained married. Their younger daughter Mary was also an active socialist well into the 20th century.



1monster

(11,012 posts)
10. Number six has the look of Tiffany, but I can't find this window attributed to him.
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:22 PM
May 2012

Last edited Sat May 5, 2012, 09:11 AM - Edit history (1)

Must be an admirer of his.

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
21. I'm wracking my brain
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:13 PM
May 2012

I could be totally wrong on this, but I seem to remember somewhere in my miscellaneous ramblings on the InterTubes, something about a church in Chicago with these arched windows. The church may have been torn down, but some of the windows were saved???? I don't know, but that's what's lurking in the back of my head.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
26. you sent me in the right direction! finally found it
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:30 PM
May 2012

by adding Tiffany to my search- but only found a small portion of it. Then I added 'favrile' and voila.... there it was!

"The Flight of Souls"-

This is such a beautiful window. I love the rainbow effects the delicate gradation of colors.

It's in the Wade Chapel in Cleveland Ohio

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
34. Yes, a nice work, isn't it?
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:36 PM
May 2012

I don't like it as much as I do the Jones-Burne/Morris but it is noteworthy....

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
46. I'm a sucker for
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:01 PM
May 2012

colors like this window has- (adolescent Peter Max addiction) But I agree the other windows are really beautiful.
It's petty... and I'm sure it's crucial but the framework on the Trinity windows distracts my attention a bit.
Would love to see these in person some day.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
20. I'm so glad you like it!
Fri May 4, 2012, 05:59 PM
May 2012

I learn from every interaction with DUers that I have on these threads. They have SO much information and insights. It's really inspiring to me...and rejuvenating!

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
22. looking at number 6
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:18 PM
May 2012

I am wondering if it is, in fact, even stained glass or a painting? or both. It certainly looks like Tiffany, as mentioned by a few above.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
27. No 6 looks like Tiffany, but I don't think it is...
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012

The flowers do, but the angles don't...dying to know who/where it is...it's fantabulous!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
29. I really don't have a clue, but I'll take a wild guess and maybe learn something.
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:46 PM
May 2012

Is #2 Michelangelo?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
36. You know, I stay away from Michelangelo because he is SO famous and
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:38 PM
May 2012

I want to give more room to other artists of the Renaissance. So many others contributed in his time and they are noteworthy...

Tansy_Gold

(17,851 posts)
30. #1
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:49 PM
May 2012

has an interesting piece of artwork on the far right side. Looks Picasso-ish??? Miro???

I thought at first the church/chapel might be Frank Lloyd Wright, but didn't find anything that looked even close. of course, I might be using the wrong search terms......

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
31. number 2 is:
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:00 PM
May 2012

Andrea da Firenze, The Passion of Christ, altar wall of the "Spanish Chapel"

(not familiar with it, just searched around google) found it here:

http://counterlightsrantsandblather1.blogspot.com/2011/06/florence-disaster-and-reaction-art.html

and if I am not mistaken you gave us this one as a challenge a while back (from the same link)

The Seven Liberal Arts from the Triumph of Saint Thomas Aquinas

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
39. I'm wondering how you pieced that together...the spanish chapel is gothic (late 14th century)
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

and the Santa Maria Novella main church is (now) Renaissance.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
44. googled
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:57 PM
May 2012

one thing leads to another and I searched "3 crucifictions fresco arch" and it came up as one of the (many) images. (that's not cheating is it? )

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
51. Ah, I get it. Didn't know about that site. I think of it mainly as the fresco with the
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:17 PM
May 2012

medieval pun. The one with the dogs...

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
33. number one is:
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:28 PM
May 2012

Chapelle Notre Dame du Haut by Le Corbusier

I searched for "modern architecture churches interior" It is a very unusual looking church from the exterior too.

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Notre_Dame_du_Haut.html

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
37. ah!
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

you beat me to it- your question about Picasso got me searching for bauhaus sanctuaries. (on edit- it was actually Tansy's comment about Picasso that led me to look there).

You are good.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
55. Oh, that's wonderful! When was that? How come you got to visit there?
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:49 PM
May 2012

I am impressed! How I would love to visit it. Sounds so wonderful...

burrowowl

(17,638 posts)
60. I lived in France for 20 years
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:18 PM
May 2012

Did technical translation.
Missed my Rio Grande and my parents were in bad shape.
However for healthcare and civilized society, miss France and my godchildren a lot.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
61. lucky you! But I can understand missing your home. Esp. when loved ones are
Sun May 6, 2012, 01:27 AM
May 2012

involved. Where were you in France?

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
35. is #1
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:37 PM
May 2012

Ronchamp?

I found a church that looks very similar to this designed by Le Corbusier.

Searching under bauhause church scantuary.

These are tough!

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
38. Yes, of course, Ronchamps. Recently in the news because Renzo Piano has updated
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

the site, altho not the chapel.

Bluerthanblue

(13,669 posts)
40. had no idea-
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

I learn something new every time I participate in your challenges.

Thanks for doing this CTyankee. It's fun and interesting to try figuring these out.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
47. It is very nice. Very spiritual. I love both examples. Really lovely...
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:06 PM
May 2012

thank you for this. It reminds us that there are chapels of faith and love all around us and we have only to look for them. These are profound. They speak to us. Love them.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
52. Wow, somebody has flunked Western Art 101 by not guessing on 3 and 4.
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:22 PM
May 2012

I covered it in the lectures. Did you miss class that day?

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
56. I'll post answers later but one last hint: There are 3 artists involved in #3 and 4
Sat May 5, 2012, 08:28 AM
May 2012

(combined). All 3 are Italian.

Good luck!

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
57. On number three I want to say it's a Caravaggio, but that's because
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:13 PM
May 2012

it's the only one that is fresh in my mind. I'm going to check google out to see if I can find it.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
58. I posted the answers earlier today...
Sat May 5, 2012, 03:18 PM
May 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002648175

The painting is by Raphael and is a bit hard to find all by itself. The sculpture is by Bernini (a contemporary of Caravaggio). The two works are in the Chigi Chapel of the Santa Maria del Popolo in Rome. Interestingly, another chapel in that church contains two masterpieces by Caravaggio!

Here is a description of these interesting works http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chigi_Chapel

On a trip to Rome in 2006 I took a day to visit as many Caravaggio's as I could (he was a Rome painter) and so I was in this Church. I had done an Independent Study on him in grad school, which actually was a lot of fun.

You might be interested in watching the Caravaggio episode in Simon Schama's The Power of Art, which you can find on YouTube. It's a great series on several artists throughout history. You can watch it in half hour episodes. Schama is a fabulous narrator. He really brings the art to life. His last one is on Mark Rothko and it is a wonderful experience, altho sad. The episode on Bernini is stunning, also. The Power of Art is also in book form.

I hope you enjoy it!
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