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Whoopee!!! Aren't government contracts sweet? Just hope we don't get another John McCain that crashes a few of these.
WASHINGTON The F-35 Lightning II is one of the most complicated weapons systems ever developed, a sleek and stealthy fighter jet years in the making that is often called a flying computer because of its more than 8 million lines of code.
The Joint Strike Fighter comes in three versions, including one that is designed to take off and land on an aircraft carrier and another that lands vertically, as if it were a helicopter.
But to truly understand the most expensive weapons program in the history of the Pentagon, forget the plane for a minute. Consider the helmet.
Its designed to protect the pilots head, of course. But compared to everything the helmet does, protection becomes something of an afterthought.
The helmet sees through the plane. Or rather it helps the pilot see through the plane. When the pilots look down, they dont see the floor of the plane; they see the world below them. If the pilots look back, they see the sky behind them. Embedded in the skin of the aircraft are six cameras, and when the pilots move their heads to look in a particular direction, they are actually seeing through the corresponding camera, which sends an image to projectors inside the helmet that beam an image of the outside world on the helmets visor.
Which makes the visor not really a visor. Its a screen that posts information the way some cars are now posting fuel and gas mileage on the windshield in whats called a heads-up display. But beyond speed and altitude, F-35 pilots would see things such as the location of enemy aircraft or weapons on the ground.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20150405/NEWS02/150409508
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)the $400,000 helmet helps preserve the pilot and the $148m - $337m aircraft, then it's a good investment.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)We could give them a job planting trees or something instead.
Then they wouldn't need a $400,000 helmet.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)eliminating the military altogether, but YMMV.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)That kind of expense has to be justified.
These F-35's aren't particularly defending America.
I'm walking around America every day and never once has an F-35 swooped in to defend me from anything.
That's not saying eliminate the military altogether. Not sure where you got that from. Certainly not from anything I said.
But yes do think about where this money is going and who benefits from it. And whether it is really making us any safer. What threat is it protecting us from? Would it be smarter to use that money for something else like repairing bridges, funding schools, or planting trees?
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)However when your military budget is more than the next 26 countries combined and every one of those next 26 countries is considered an ally, then something is seriously wrong. Our military is a bloated mess, we spend billions every year on weapons that don't work or don't get into production. For a country with a collapsing infrastructure, it's pretty stupid.
valerief
(53,235 posts)What more could any 1%er want?
Rex
(65,616 posts)then that is artificially inflating the price just for pure profit. Don't you find that wrong and that is the argument here.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)then I would agree with you, but I haven't seen it stated anywhere that it can be made for $40,000.
Why do you believe it could be?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)How they crash, the pilot will always walk away every time and since I didn't see that in the article or even talk safety of pilots, it is a waste of money....of course not surprising.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)a couple thousand.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Still in development, but supposed to be released sometime this year.
Logical
(22,457 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)A friend has a developers kit...
It's pretty freakin cool. However, the eye ware is bulky and annoying.. People complain about 3D glasses, these things are like wearing a weight on your face...
Google has a really cheap goofy VR solution called Google Cardboard... You can get them as cheap as 5 bucks, they attach to your cell phone and use it as a screen. It has an advantage over Occulus as most phones can do 1080p and the Occulus is still low res... It does head tracking, and companies are making Bluetooth controllers so you can use it for gaming. I tried it on Google Earth and it's pretty fun to fly around looking at famous sites..
It's uses are minimal but if someone wants a quick glimpse into the future it is impressive and it's cheap...
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)The first one had a lower resolution display, but the second developer model has a 1080p display, and more compact electronics (the first one had a controller box along with the goggles, the second one doesn't need the box.)
I haven't seen the other alternatives like Microsoft's Hololens. Looks really cool though.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)And yeah the one I tried was obviously the old one as it had "the box". Hopefully they got a little weight off the glasses as well.
If you really have an itch to see some VR try the Google Cardboard. I know when you look at it it looks stupid but it really works. And you can buy a little better unit if you are willing to spend a little more (10-20 bucks). After I wrote the post I went looking around and they are now making head mounted units with much better lensing and controllers, and I was actually seeing some games and 3D movies available. Apparently there is also a VR of a live Paul McCartney show where you can walk around the stage while they play Live and Let Die. I may get another pair of Cardboard(1st one wore out.. LOL) just to see this..
Damn... I'm such a geek.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Formula One race car driver helmets are upward to $20,000 now and an F-35 is a lot more complex.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)The helmet and steering wheel package costs $70,000.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)I googled around, and saw that one or two manufacturers were putting little heads-up displays in them, though that wasn't universal.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...Conventional Takeoff and District-CashDrop version. It can hit a committee member's campaign account within five hundred miles.
- They don't fly very well, nor for very long. But they're excellent at hitting campaign funding quotas......
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)I think I can, I think I can, I KNOW I can!!!
- Get another appropriations increase, of course.
What'd you think I meant?, fly? Hahahahahaha!!!
F-35 Costs $182 Million to $299 Million Per Plane
K&R
rickford66
(5,523 posts)Whoever detects their opponent first gets the kill. Drones make more sense, but make war insanely horrible. I like the old way, where Kings actually led their troops into battle.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Just wondering.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)The doors were open to barbarian invasions from the Huns and Germanic groups such as the Vandals, Lombards, Alamanni, Goths, Franks, and Burgundians to attack the Western Roman Empire. These groups brought the final blow, overrunning the Empire's towns and cities, meeting little resistance from the Roman army.
Eventually, barbarians dethroned the last Roman Emperor, when Germanic mercenaries led by Odovacar overthrew Romulus Augustus on September 4, 476. This event is commonly called the end of the Western Roman Empire. Despite the eventual failure of the Roman army to protect against such invasions, the army had been an effective military force in earlier times. More
JHB
(37,158 posts)I don't actually have a beef with the helmet: it sounds like the most sensible thing I've heard so far about the F-35. It's the effort to have one gawdaffuly expensive plan that does everything half(or more)-assed than several that excel.
Initech
(100,063 posts)Vinca
(50,261 posts)I wouldn't be surprised to learn they're crafted in China for $20.
jmowreader
(50,554 posts)Google Unicor. It's a decent program.
Naturally, what will happen is the $200 helmet shell Bernie Madoff made will go to Lockheed to have $399,800 worth of electronics installed in it.
The "my next gaming computer" comment upthread was funny because it's true. If you were to make a batch of five million of these and sell them worldwide, they would be $200 and gamers would line up to get them. But there will only be 3500 of these lids made and they have to amortize R&D somehow.
Of course, if they would have made a plane you could fucking SEE OUT OF instead of this atrocity, its pilots could wear the SPH-4 the military has used since fiberglass was invented.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Then advanced training ...
That number does not upset me -it's insurance on our investment
pa28
(6,145 posts)The F-35 is trillion dollar weapons system for it's own sake. What a waste.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)I'm serious. It is time to eliminate wasteful boondoggles like this. Cut this and other programs that do not work (like the Navy littoral vessel that does not work either). Cut the size of the military personnel by 1/3 as well and put them to work fixing infrastructure.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)That is the course we are on. Can we all live on the Death Star?
Bigmack
(8,020 posts)The article leaves out that most important thing.
We mustn't forget that "getting a chubby" factor.
Never mind that there is no current mission for that plane.
Never mind that it doesn't work as advertised.
Never mind that drones are the future.
Never mind that we take food out of the mouths of our own people to fund this kind of shit.
Never mind that our infrastructure is failing, and the F-35 money would fix it.
That fucking plane really looks cool!
And it goes ZOOOOOOOMMMMMM!
hunter
(38,310 posts)... deserves an expensive stuffing.