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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:09 PM Apr 2015

Obama to Israel: Status quo carries a cost

Al Jazeera America
Obama to Israel: Status quo carries a cost

Israelis who consider themselves centrists – “no fans of Netanyahu” according to the New York Times’ Jodi Rudoren — appear to be suddenly aware of the scale of international isolation facing their country as a result of its electorate’s choices. They’re not happy, and those cited in Rudoren’s story appear to be blaming President Barack Obama.

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The way the American media is playing a Great Deal endorsed by the pesky Pope himself - is rather revealing of their loyalty - to fear and war.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:28 PM
Apr 2015

What kind of good Catholic American media mogul would one be to ignore the Pope?

Why no mention that Europe, Russia, France, Germany, China, the UN, experts from each of these countries also consider the peace accord excellent? Have these countries no opinion at all because I hear nothing in the corporate media...except silence and the clicking click of teeth gnashing.

Haven't you media folks realized that the constant drone of pretend victimhood and pretend Chicken Little outrage as a defence to logic has gotten rather boring to your audience folks - who want only hope, not this ridiculous constant drumbeat of gloom and doom and hair on fire?

It is a 5 Major Power agreement.....Americans needs to be reminded there is a great big world outide of the pursuit of the votes of Iowan religious and Fox cult members.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. If Iran can do the right thing, then so can Israel.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

It should be a race between them to see who can broker peace instead of war.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
5. Recovery from loss always entails the usual steps:
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:46 PM
Apr 2015
1. Denial and Isolation

The first reaction to deny the reality of the situation. It is a normal reaction to rationalize overwhelming emotions. It is a defense mechanism that buffers the immediate shock. We block out the words and hide from the facts. This is a temporary response that carries us through the first wave of pain.

2. Anger

As the masking effects of denial and isolation begin to wear, reality and its pain re-emerge. We are not ready. The intense emotion is deflected from our vulnerable core, redirected and expressed instead as anger. The anger may be aimed at inanimate objects, complete strangers, friends or family. Anger may be directed at our dying or deceased loved one. Rationally, we know the person is not to be blamed. Emotionally, however, we may resent the person for causing us pain or for leaving us. We feel guilty for being angry, and this makes us more angry.

3. Bargaining

The normal reaction to feelings of helplessness and vulnerability is often a need to regain control–

Secretly, we may make a deal with God or our higher power in an attempt to postpone the inevitable. This is a weaker line of defense to protect us from the painful reality.

4. Depression

Two types of depression are associated with mourning. The first one is a reaction to practical implications relating to the loss. Sadness and regret predominate this type of depression. It is our quiet preparation to separate and to bid our loved one farewell. 5.

Acceptance

Reaching this stage of mourning is a gift not afforded to everyone. Loss may be sudden and unexpected or we may never see beyond our anger or denial. It is not necessarily a mark of bravery to resist the inevitable and to deny ourselves the opportunity to make our peace. This phase is marked by withdrawal and calm. This is not a period of happiness and must be distinguished from depression.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
6. I get home delivery of the NY Times (because the Miami Herald is worthless)...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:19 PM
Apr 2015

...and when I came across this story I choked so hard I inhaled my morning Fruit Loops.

Utter B. fuckin' S.

mountain grammy

(26,613 posts)
7. I am 100% behind Obama on this..
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 03:38 PM
Apr 2015

Israel was partially responsible (in my opinion) for our mistaken invasion of Iraq and now they want us to do it again in Iran. Enough, already!

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
9. Just shows you what a bs term centrist is.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:28 PM
Apr 2015

It is a term used to describe neocons and confuse moderate Americans, into electing dicks like Tom Cotton, John McCain and Joe Lieberman, not to mention Hillary Clinton.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Netanyahu is a centrist by Israeli standards.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

The mindset in the article is pretty typical, the Israelis expect the US to give, give, give but never offer anything in return. No progress on resolving the occupation, constant hysterical shrieking over the Iran deal, etc etc.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. An abstention or two at the UN may be necessary to get
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 06:04 PM
Apr 2015

this point across to right wing Israeli politicians. Some mules have to be hit with a board hard and often in order to get their attention. T

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