Politico: Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran!!! WTF. With Democrats like Schumer ...

[99th_Monkey]

Who needs a seditious GOP to undermine peace negotiations in the ME?

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Chuck Schumer bucks White House on Iran
The top Democrat throws his weight behind legislation to give Congress power to reject a deal.
By Burgess Everett
4/6/15 6:10 PM EDT

Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, one of Capitol Hill’s most influential voices in the Iran nuclear debate, is strongly endorsing passage of a law opposed by President Barack Obama that would give Congress an avenue to reject the White House-brokered framework unveiled last week.

The comments Monday by the Democratic leader-in-waiting illustrate the enormity of the task ahead for President Barack Obama and his team: While there’s no guarantee that Congress would ultimately reject an agreement with Iran, there’s an increasingly bipartisan consensus that Congress should at least have the ability to do so.

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[DonCoquixote]

1. Not to excuse Obama for being way too centre-right

But an elephant in the room is that there were many democrats, from Nancy "impeache is off the table" Pelosi, to blue dogs like Landrieu, that knew that they could no longer ride the gravy train of "well, we can't do anythign because the GOP runs it all." Thus, they seemed to almost deliberately crash the supermajority, and make sure Obama not only got little support from his own side, but that Obama would have a back full of friendly fire, like the fine people that gave Bibi more respect than they ever gave Obama.

[GoneFishin]

15. I generally agree. The Republicans are the best excuse the Dems have for not advancing any

highly progressive measures.

A case in point was the public option dodging. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and BO were completely unconvincing with their excuses as to why the ACA public option could not even be discussed. They didn't want the public option, but none of them wanted to be blamed for obstructing it.

The Republicans are the bad guys now. The Blue Dog Dems can still get their right-wing corporatist measures passed with the cooperation of the Republicans. But no progressive measures will get passed, and no Dems will take any heat, even the Blue Dogs.

[on point]

27. You got it right. ^^^^ 1000%

[vi5]

28. Hit the nail right on the head.

It's all one long con from our wonderful Dem leaders.

[NightWatcher]

2. Obama is his President, not Netanyahu

These reps need to remember that they are first and foremost American and stop doing the bidding of Israel.

Any politician who puts Israel ahead of America needs to be promptly removed.

[99th_Monkey]

9. If this was actually bad deal, I wouldn't be so torqued by this

but it's a foreign policy masterpiece, a ringing accomplishment of our Democratic POTUS (and by extension the Party), and substantially forwards the cause of world peace ...

Schumer is totally pandering to BiBi's warmongering

[kacekwl]

3. This is who

they want to replace Harry Reid ? Here we go again.

[craigmatic]

4. Sounds like someone sides with Bibi over Barack. I don't like Schumer. Never have.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Isn't he one of those "Party Loyalists" so popular around here?

One of those we're supposed to vote for to prove our "loyalty" to the party?

[ann---]

11. I won't vote for him - ever again

And Hillary is a Boobi Nuttyahoo lover too. She won't get my vote either.
I'll write in Kucinich's name again.

[hatrack]

13. But there's a D after his name on the tee-vee!! A D!!!! AND WE KNOW THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT!!!

It's the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS!!!

Pathetic, Chuckles, pathetic.

[whathehell]

6. I've heard the Senate is only one vote short of being able

to override the President's veto of the Corker bill.

[geek tragedy]

7. Schumer has always been a shameful panderer on Israel who doesn't view Arabs or Iranians

as human beings.

And he's the next leader in the Senate.

[Brett Fitz]

32. Not Yet He Isn't!

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And hopefully this backstabbing of the president will KEEP Mr. Firster from that post.

[Proud Public Servant]

8. You all are reading this wrong

This isn't about Obama's Iran deal, per se. It's actually about the perception in Congress, on both sides of the aisle, that the Executive and Legislative branches are no longer co-equal, as the founders intended them to be. Yes, a great deal of the blame for that belongs to Congress itself, which is thoroughly dysfunctional, can't govern anymore, and has made itself increasingly irrelevant. But you also have a White House that's become just plain dismissive; to my mind, the most egregious example was when Obama let Congress know that he'd like them to authorize military action against ISIS, but he certainly didn't need them too. That was a bridge too far, even for Dems, and they're starting to push back.

[99th_Monkey]

12. Peace in the ME v. Over-weened Congressional Egos

I'll take peace ever fucking time.

[kelly1mm]

29. I totaly agree and that is what I have said on previous threads, not nearly as well as you did

here. This is legislative branch pushback against the growing imperial Presidency. My opinion is that it is way past time!

(note I said presidency as in the office - not a swipe at this particular President)

[ann---]

39. Do you realize that this may

not be the place to start "pushing back" on the office of presidency?
The executive and State Department DO have the right to come
to agreements with foreign powers. This is an historic achievement
and an alternative to war. Why the Dems cannot support Obama is
beyond my understanding. They are cowards.

[kelly1mm]

40. I think anytime the legislative branch wants to check executive branch authority it is

a good thing. My opinion is that the executive branch (as an institution) has become way to powerful. It does not matter to me that the executive is doing something 'good' with that power.

[ann---]

10. I think we

should ship the 47 senators who signed Cotton's letter and all the Dems who
vote with them against Obama to Israel where they belong and see if they
like Boobi any better.

[kelly1mm]

30. Wow! Where should we send the Senators who disagree with the President on TPP? nt

[ann---]

33. I don't know

Did they write a letter with the sole intent to sabotage an agreement
on nukes?

[kelly1mm]

35. Senator Schumer did not sign that letter. Apparently he gets sent away with the R's who did simply

for disagreeing with the President? And for the shocking notion that the legislative branch should be able to weigh in on US policy?

So, again, should Democratic Senators who disagree with the President on TPP be 'punished' in some way?

[ann---]

37. Maybe, not sure....

Those senators who deliberately sabotaged the nuke talks by
sending the letter seem to think Boobi is their leader.

The Dem senators who plan to vote to override a veto of the
bill that would sabotage the President's agreement with
Iran are just as bad as the gopers who do so and who signed
the letter.

[kelly1mm]

41. OK, that certainly is one way to see it. I will take it as the legislative branch pushing back

against executive branch overreach. I for one believe that the executive branch has become way too powerful at the expense of the legislative branch. (please note I am talking about generics here - not particular individuals)

[Jack Rabbit]

14. And they want to make this guy the Democratic Leader in the Senate?

That is disgusting.

[GoneFishin]

16. +1 to ^this^.

[JEB]

17. "Money trumps peace".

[FourScore]

18. Schumer has always put Isreal first, then America. Always!

Banks and Wall Street are pretty important to him, too. Otherwise, he's a pretty strong democrat.

[99th_Monkey]

20. Otherwise?

Siding with seditious GOP congressional warmongers to strangle a historic Iran
peace deal in it's crib is completely inexcusable IMHO.

[BobSmith4152]

19. Maybe we could email him or something?

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/contact/email-chuck

[99th_Monkey]

22. Done

Dear Senator Schumer,
Why are you siding with seditious GOP Middle East war-mongers to sabotage Obama's (remember him? He's our DEMOCRATIC President) historic peace negotiations with Iran, so we can peacefully halt Iran's development of nuclear arms?

Israel's hard Right Wing clearly WANTS to drag the USA into a bloody war with Iran, as does the US Republican Party ... and you support that? Really? That's not being "pro-Israel", that's betraying your President, your Democratic Party and any chance of ever having peace in the Middle East.

Please, please reconsider this, and support your President, and other Congressional Democrats, who are working hard to avoid war , stabilize the ME, and find peaceful solutions to our foreign relations in that region of the world.

Sincerely,
99th Monkey (actually i used my real name here)

[ann---]

38. Already did

[B Calm]

21. and Harry Reid endorses Chuck Schumer to replace him. . eom

[libpride_15]

23. Republicans, with their letter are treasonous; Schumer merely a backstabber

He must be prevented from becoming leader I'm for Hillary, so I think Warren would make a good leader.

[hughee99]

25. Do you think voting for Hillary will prevent Schumer from being the Dem leader in the Senate? n/t

[Trillo]

24. Should congress not approve of the TPP?

It would seem hypocritical to complain about Schumer endorsing this if you want congress to outlaw the TPP.

[99th_Monkey]

31. Hypocritical?

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Any Democratic US Senator with as much clout and seniority as Schumer,
who just can't bring himself to BOTH support his Democratic POTUS's historic
peace agreement with Iran AND oppose the corporate-driven travesty called
the TPP, has not earned my respect or my support. I don't live in his state, but if
I did. he wouldn't get my vote. Not after this dissing of Obama's brilliantly played
deal with Iran.

BTW - Pray tell, WTF is so "hypocritical" about expecting a Democrat to actually act like
a Democrat twice in a row?

[KamaAina]

26. When Insannity was on local radio in NYC, he called him "Upchucky Schumer"

He wasn't wrong.

[lame54]

34. Chuck get the fuck out of the way...

you are of no use here

[realFedUp]

36. What is his thinking on this?

Not happy with his opposition to the President et al.

[Reter]

42. That surprises you?!?

Umm, come on. He knows what side his bread is buttered on.

[libpride_15]

43. Republicans/Schumer: "All We are Saying ...

...is Give War a Chance."