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H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 11:32 PM Apr 2015

Girl Scouts & Clan Mothers

I spoke to a Girl Scout Troop this afternoon, about the Indian history of their small town. It was interesting for me, in part because in over 30 years of speaking to schools ( K through 12), most all of the colleges and universities in this region, historical societies, environmental groups, and Boy Scouts ….I had never been asked to speak to Girl Scouts before.

There were 18 girls there, ages 7 to 9. They had just finished their school day, and so they had a lot of energy to burn. A quick snack, and we were ready to go! Holy cow!

I keep on file some basic outlines for presentations to different groups. However, I decided that it would be fun to focus almost exclusively on the role of women in Iroquois society. I brought about 50 artifacts -- most found at a site at the edge of their village. This was a site that James Fennimore Cooper wrote about, the Oneida village known as “Hutted Knoll.” Children in this age group tend to learn more when they have “hands on” experience;

The Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy, or Haudenosaunee, are a matriarchal society. This is best understood as a system that recognizes women and men as equal -- though not “exact.” And it creates family systems in a manner with shared power and influence, which is not passed down by way of heredity …..for example, as with the Bush family, with father-to-son appointed positions.

We had an hour and 45 minutes to talk, so I did address the role of males, from childhood to adulthood. But our primary focus was on the roles of the females, from childhood to adulthood. This included discussing the role of the Clan Mother, who selects the clan’s chief, and who also has the power to remove him. I think that every one of these little children grasped the concept that Grandmothers are wise human beings, with much to teach others.

That led to our discussion of the Indians’ “schools” -- inside the longhouse, in the gardens, in the woods, and sitting quietly along side of a stream. And the idea of 13 months/moons per year, with a special holiday-festival for each one. The singing and dancing, and how they made drums and flutes. I had also brought a substantial pile of children’s books, included some by my friend Joseph Bruchac, Some of these girls told me about other books on Indians, that they have read a home and in school.

I had met one 8-year old girl a while back. Her mother had asked me if I could tutor her daughter, who had gotten a 54 on a test on the Iroquois in class. The mother knows my sons. I was glad to help; the girl raised her grade to a 98 when she re-took the test. This led to my being invited to speak to her Girl Scout Troop.

These children were smart. I was very impressed, and told them so repeatedly. For example, when I asked them about what pets Indians had, although they didn’t know about dogs and black bear cubs, they said, “Well, all kids love to catch frogs (snakes, toads, salamanders, lightening bugs, etc).” Man!

Then we ended by talking about water. We discussed clean water versus polluted water, and how life on Earth depends upon clean water. Again, they got it.

Chief Paul Waterman used to tell me that, when presenting to a group of 20 people, the goal is to really reach one of them. That’s success. Anything more is icing on the cake. I think that all of the 18 girls got it today.

Equally important, I remember Paul saying how, when talking to little children, to be fully aware of both their innocence and their wisdom. The Troop leaders were also mighty proud -- and mighty impressed -- when, after we finished, they asked each girl a question about what they had learned today. There were 18 different, equally good, answers.

From there, I traveled about 28 miles, for a school board meeting. Tonight, a group that included much of the local tea party came to complain. They definitely view us board members as “the enemy.” (And one of us, more than the others!) I kept thinking to myself that it’s important that I do this, so that our community’s children get a good education. It is a constant struggle, especially when there are adults who despise public education. But it is worth it.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Girl Scouts & Clan Mothers (Original Post) H2O Man Apr 2015 OP
it is worth it NBachers Apr 2015 #1
It is. H2O Man Apr 2015 #6
I wish our young nation had embraced these ways rather than try to destroy these people. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #2
Right. H2O Man Apr 2015 #7
So very worth it Hekate Apr 2015 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2015 #8
Thanks for this, what a great subject & good kids. Teaching them is so critical. For years I was a appalachiablue Apr 2015 #4
Decades ago, H2O Man Apr 2015 #9
As a former girl scout, I can assure you - most, if not all, of those girls FourScore Apr 2015 #5
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. I wish our young nation had embraced these ways rather than try to destroy these people.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:28 AM
Apr 2015

Recommended.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
7. Right.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:20 AM
Apr 2015

I think that Vine Deloria was correct when he wrote, back in the early 1970s, that the American people would soon face a choice between the positive aspects of Native group-life, or the "security" of feudalism.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
8. Thanks!
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:24 AM
Apr 2015

I really enjoyed talking with the children. Listening to the tea party folks insist that my goal is to raise their taxes? Not so much. (grin) By no coincidence, most of them had invested in land in recent years, because they believed that fracking would result in their being the next Jed Clampett. And they associate me with those darned environmentalists.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
4. Thanks for this, what a great subject & good kids. Teaching them is so critical. For years I was a
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:43 AM
Apr 2015

museum educator, loved working with children.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
9. Decades ago,
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:33 AM
Apr 2015

when I worked with "at risk" youth in a rural, upstate NY county, I found it more beneficial to work with the kids outside of my office. I assumed that they had plenty of experience dealing with an adult in his/her office, on opposite sides of a desk. So, I'd get groups and do projects such as restoring pioneer cemeteries. (The teen who engages in this is not likely to trash a cemetery, a too common activity in these parts, associated with kids partying in grave yards.)

We also did an archaeological excavation of a small occupation site, high on a mountain. A professor from a local university assisted in the project. In fact, employees of several county agencies volunteered, allowing the youngsters to interact with them as human beings.

A local private university, with an outstanding museum, then invited us to have their biggest display for a month. It connected those youngsters with people and places they were unlikely to encounter otherwise.

I love museums!

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
5. As a former girl scout, I can assure you - most, if not all, of those girls
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 02:00 AM
Apr 2015

will carry the memory of your visit for a lifetime. That was a remarkable gift you gave them.

As for the school board and the tea party...AAARRRRGGGGHHH!!!

Thanks for the beautiful post H20Man!

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