There's another Duggar.

[hamsterjill]

Jill has finally given birth to a son.

http://www.people.com/article/jill-duggar-derick-dillard-baby-boy-born-israel-david-dillard

Yeah, I know...not much relevance here. But it's an experiment of sorts.

[RealityAdvocate]

1. Congratulations to the parents.

[Politicalboi]

2. The freak show continues

Is she going to have more babies to stay on TV or in the news? Will she top her mother? Freaks is what I call them.
Another baby just waiting to be taught to hate.

[hamsterjill]

6. I tend to agree.

I wonder how much she received for the photo that went with the story. These people try to pretend they lead a "simple" lifestyle, when in reality, their lifestyle is anything but. They know how to make a buck.

[yeoman6987]

3. Congratulations to the wonderful family

Enjoy the time because it flies by quickly.

[LittleBlue]

4. In two more generations their "family" will resemble a battalion

More "arrows" for God, according to their beliefs.

I'm starting to get a little nervous. Religious couples are having far more kids than secular couples. Look at what's happening in Israel demographically. The secular are getting left behind

[benld74]

5. Here is to a NORMAL life for them all,,,,,,

[haikugal]

7. Just what the world needs....not

[Ms. Yertle]

8. I see they named the baby Israel

Since there are a lot fewer names that start with I than with J, I imagine their family will be considerably smaller than her parents'.

[City Lights]

9. It's sad that this is considered news. nt

[B2G]

10. Why do you care

How many kids these people choose to have?

It's called choice. I thought that was a good thing.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

11. It's only a good thing

If the right people agree with the choice.

Were you left off that memo?

[B2G]

12. Evidently. Lol. nt

[hamsterjill]

13. Did I say I cared?

n/t

[B2G]

16. Evidently enough to start a thread. nt

[hamsterjill]

17. A thread to which you've responded, right?

So, why do YOU care?

[B2G]

19. I care about choice.

Everyone's.

Without judgement.

[hamsterjill]

20. I do, too.

The Duggars (all or any one of them) are free to procreate. No one is stopping them. But I will remind you that it is THEY who put this out in the media. I didn't create the publicity. Jill and her husband were very obviously paid by People Magazine for the rights to the photo of their son. I merely shared that link.

I don't believe that most, ordinary Americans would be in a position to have as large a family as Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar have - because most ordinary Americans don't have the income from a reality television series.

[B2G]

21. They had 17 kids and we're financially

Self sufficient before the show even started.

[Gormy Cuss]

22. If by choice you mean reproductive choice, no one is stopping them.

If by choice you mean any choice, I have the choice to rob a bank. You'd probably judge me if I did.

eta: I'm not clicking through to People magazine. That would give the impression that I care about this event.

[JI7]

23. duggars want to take away legal right to choice

[closeupready]

26. Lots of people do. They all STILL have the right to choose for themselves.

[JI7]

29. i Don't know anyone who said they didn't have that right

And making fun of them and criticizing them when they have a tv show and put themselves out in public is not taking away their choice.

[closeupready]

32. Typical of DU members who parrot, "her body, her choice"

but don't mean it. Got it.

[closeupready]

25. Um ... yeah.

[hamsterjill]

30. Um...no.

Trying to up our post count, are we?

[closeupready]

33. 32 responses ... 0 recs? Um... yeah, you did.

[hamsterjill]

36. Wow!

Another post to add to that count, right? Real substantive.

[JI7]

14. is anyone trying to legally take their choice away ?

Because that's what they do

[hamsterjill]

18. Very well said!

Thank you.

[LanternWaste]

27. One is denied criticism of a particular and specific choice if one champions choice?

One is denied criticism of a particular and specific choice if one champions choice?

[Sheepshank]

15. what an adorably cute bundle of joy

I just adore new baby pics.

My own child 9lb 10 oz, had the same little butterball look about her ****sigh****

as for everything else that surrounds the Duggars - - Meh

[closeupready]

24. How about this ... none of your business. Her body, her choice.

You might also have a vagina, and you know what? You STILL have NO business making HER choice for HER.

[hamsterjill]

28. Your response is ugly.

The birth became public information when the new parents were PAID for the photo op. So, it's everyone's business and no longer a private matter.

But where did I say it was NOT her choice?

[JI7]

31. they put themselves out in public with this

The OP isn't making a choice for anyone. That are responding to something people themselves make public news

[closeupready]

34. At best, this is a lounge act for the Lounge forum.

[misterhighwasted]

35. Now suppose Israel grows up to realize he is Gay or really a she in a he's body? Grama Bigot Michele

..will do what to the grandson?
Pray the Gay away? She has already worked to Legislate the Transgender away.
And is still taking speaking fees for their giant church, who's big bloated Pastor admitted to improper relations with a minor, following his admission of cheating on his wife back in 2013.

This will warm your heart to the lovely quiverful family:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/jim-bob-duggar

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/16/sex-scandal-rocks-the-duggars-christian-patriarchy-movement.html

[hamsterjill]

37. She has also done robocalls advocating against choice.

Thanks for the links. I've seen them before. They are eye opening.

There are also people who insist the Duggars are self sufficient and live debt free. Much of their home was finished out by TLC. They make money off of the television show and appearances, etc. In this case, Jill and her husband were paid for the photo op of their new son.

Might be easy to live debt free if you had that much income, right?

[misterhighwasted]

38. They are the epitome of anti'choice, anti'women, submit to the patriachial society of god.

The Dugger Family is fully embedded in legislating fundamentalist KKKristian bigotry.

And what would they do if one in the quiver was born LGBT?
I'd really like to know how they would handle it.

They are a hypocrisy with a bible in each hand.

[JI7]

39. there are about 2 that i think are

[misterhighwasted]

40. Supreme Puba Gothard is said to allow the Dugger women to now wear makeup, & skirts at the knee

They give up the original attire of submissive Fundy women in favor of fingernail polish and straight locks over curly perms.
Why?
The Dugger girls will appeal to their generation as less strict bible thumpers.
They are necessary in keeping the youth base from leaving the flock.
Good girl soldiers for the bigots.

[misterhighwasted]

41. I see the older Dugger kids as very much following the religion they were taught,

However about half of the younger ones are allowed much freer reign than the olders ever knew.
I expect a few to tell ma & pa to piss off at some point.