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He grabbed my taser - no he didn't you fucking murderous pig (Original Post) malaise Apr 2015 OP
Now we know why some states are trying to make taking videos of police is a crime. So they can get still_one Apr 2015 #1
Videos should be taken to protect the public from bad cops. In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #2
Absolutely still_one Apr 2015 #4
Technology is changing the balance of forces malaise Apr 2015 #3
I hope so. The country has reverted back to the 50s and 60s still_one Apr 2015 #5
The area LEOs had the similar complaints of over policing like FPD... I've said it before that all.. uponit7771 Apr 2015 #6
We ran this editorial after our own PD was put though the ringer nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #7
...amen, I've said once or twice they're trained to see poor folk and people of color as lower... uponit7771 Apr 2015 #8
They see us as the enemy..precisely malaise Apr 2015 #9
The scary thing to me is, but will it dissapear into the news abyss after a month? Rex Apr 2015 #11
Watch the DHS want to put some provision in the Patriot Act Rex Apr 2015 #10
No argument from me nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #13
Well, you know...terrorism etc.. can't be taking pictures of banks or financial buildings. Rex Apr 2015 #16
The taser is visible on the ground by the cop when he's shooting panader0 Apr 2015 #12
Collective coverup malaise Apr 2015 #15
I guess city coroners can play CYA as well as DAs can. Rex Apr 2015 #17
CNN reported that the FBI and DoJ Civil Rights Division have opened investigations pinboy3niner Apr 2015 #22
Excellent news that was fast! Rex Apr 2015 #25
If the taser was next to the body it could be argued that the officer fired to stop a threat Trekologer Apr 2015 #28
police report even lied about performing cpr Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #14
CPR must mean Covering Pig's Rears frylock Apr 2015 #21
Fox news Megyn Kelly has not mentioned this story Kingofalldems Apr 2015 #18
I wonder if she's going to trot out her ZX86 Apr 2015 #24
Screaming to a dead man was guaranteed after that... MrMickeysMom Apr 2015 #19
Wasn't that amazing? malaise Apr 2015 #29
I guess the cop forgot to stick his "drop piece" in his pants when he left for work bullwinkle428 Apr 2015 #20
Even if he had grabbed it earlier aint_no_life_nowhere Apr 2015 #23
Shot in the back malaise Apr 2015 #26
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #27
Not lookin good, it's one of the ugliest videos I've seen in a long time Warpy Apr 2015 #30

still_one

(92,055 posts)
1. Now we know why some states are trying to make taking videos of police is a crime. So they can get
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:24 PM
Apr 2015

away with murder

Hopefully, not this time

still_one

(92,055 posts)
5. I hope so. The country has reverted back to the 50s and 60s
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:31 PM
Apr 2015

It looks like there is a lot of work to be done to protect civil rights again

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
6. The area LEOs had the similar complaints of over policing like FPD... I've said it before that all..
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:33 PM
Apr 2015

...these PD's with these types of complaints should be looked at.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. We ran this editorial after our own PD was put though the ringer
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:47 PM
Apr 2015
A View on the PERF Report

Editorial by Reporting San Diego

March 18, 2015 (San Diego) If I told you that what I found in the Police Executive Research Forum (PERF) report surprising, I would be lying. What we would like to see though, is more transparency from the police department and it’s leaders. I understand that a Chief’s job is to protect the troops. But when the Chief still talks a good game about her department doing community policing, even after asked, about her officers “chasing the radio,” it feels odd. The PERF also raised this with a quote near the end.

When a Chief turns her back when problems with the Field Training Office are raised that’s a problem. The PERF also pointed to them. I understand when Captains no longer want to talk to the public, but not having your side of things in a media report, is not precisely good in public relations. Moreover, turning backs on the public, not just reporters, goes against all policies, taught at the Academy, regarding officer safety.

We understand the need to protect the troops. We get it. But a lot of the problems we are seeing with the department are not just about first line supervisors and the lack of them. It is a large part of the issues. But it is not all of it. Some of these attitudes roll down hill, as they say.


http://reportingsandiego.com/2015/03/18/a-view-on-the-perf-report/

I do not believe we are in the christmas list, or in her case Hanukah list, but this is not isolated to one department, or two, or three, or four. I am now convinced that it is a problem with police itself. It is a culture issue. They truly see us as the enemy, more if you are in minority inner city communities, but we are still the enemy.

Now I should get back to work... but another day, another officer, and only thing he did not get away with it was cell phone footage, or has not yet gotten away with it (yes, we are that cynical at this point.) Given the current food fight over body cams, that is the next fight, I hold little hope they will be more than just a nice attachment to the uniform.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
8. ...amen, I've said once or twice they're trained to see poor folk and people of color as lower...
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:48 PM
Apr 2015

... and their lives worth less than top notch professionalism

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. The scary thing to me is, but will it dissapear into the news abyss after a month?
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:53 PM
Apr 2015

We've reached a point, to where we move on to the next tragic killing...when does it stop? At what point, there has to be a start point somewhere and a dialog forced upon the LEO community.

The local cops in my town are horrified at what metro is doing to innocent people.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Watch the DHS want to put some provision in the Patriot Act
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:51 PM
Apr 2015

to keep cameras away from cops, protests, banks...gee what do we see in common here?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. No argument from me
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:57 PM
Apr 2015

except the banks make little sense, since those surveillance photos are released regularly. I guess a few losses are better than a few busted folks.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. Well, you know...terrorism etc.. can't be taking pictures of banks or financial buildings.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:59 PM
Apr 2015

Someone might record a CEO making a bribe or three.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. The taser is visible on the ground by the cop when he's shooting
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:54 PM
Apr 2015

After he handcuffs the dead man he goes back to get it so he can drop it by the body. Busted!
But as another poster mentioned, why did the coroner not realize the shots were fired from a distance and in the back.
Nothing until the video came out. I hope the person who took the video is quite secret and safe.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. I guess city coroners can play CYA as well as DAs can.
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:01 PM
Apr 2015

Hope the DOJ looks into this one too. Stinks.

Trekologer

(996 posts)
28. If the taser was next to the body it could be argued that the officer fired to stop a threat
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 08:15 AM
Apr 2015

Even if shots were in the back, if he had the taser, the man could have been a threat to the officer or others. But clearly the man did not have the taser and was simply running away. No way was the shooting justified. Beyond the shooting, I have two other problems with situation. The officer did not attempt to render aid to the man who was lying on the ground. Perhaps it was too late at that point but to attempt was made. When a second officer arrives and seems to be applying first aid, that's when the taser was dropped next to the body. If that second officer's report corroborated the first's story, he should also be charged with, at the very least, filing a false report.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
14. police report even lied about performing cpr
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 08:57 PM
Apr 2015

Police reports say that officers performed CPR and delivered first aid to Scott. The video shows that for several minutes after the shooting, Scott remained face down with his hands cuffed behind his back. A second officer arrives, puts on blue medical gloves and attends to Scott, but is not shown performing CPR. As sirens wail in the background, a third officer later arrives, apparently with a medical kit, but also not seen performing CPR.
http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/South-Carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-6184932.php

Kingofalldems

(38,408 posts)
18. Fox news Megyn Kelly has not mentioned this story
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:25 PM
Apr 2015

Started off with about 10 minutes insinuating Obama is a Muslim sympathizer. And mugging before the camera with feigned outrage.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
24. I wonder if she's going to trot out her
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:49 PM
Apr 2015

"Based on a lie" crap again. There's a damn good reason people supported Mike Brown. Incidents just like this one.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
19. Screaming to a dead man was guaranteed after that...
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:28 PM
Apr 2015

… attempting to arrest him while he lay limp on the ground.

Jeebus Effing...

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
20. I guess the cop forgot to stick his "drop piece" in his pants when he left for work
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 09:51 PM
Apr 2015

that morning, so he went with the "next best thing".

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
23. Even if he had grabbed it earlier
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 10:47 PM
Apr 2015

he was unarmed, running away and shot in the back when his life was extinguished forever. He covered at least 25 feet of ground while taking eight shots into his body. He posed no threat at the time the officer made the choice to use deadly force.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
30. Not lookin good, it's one of the ugliest videos I've seen in a long time
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 03:03 PM
Apr 2015

but the pig, er, officer still gets his day in court.

We still don't know what happened during the first few minutes. They must have been loud minutes because they attracted the attention of the guy who videotaped the whole thing.

Kudos to that guy. Police are completely out of control. They are acting like an occupying foreign army.

At least this time they arrested him. He still gets his day in court so don't get the rope quite yet.

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