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Proof the Republican Party was once great! (Original Post) Dpm12 Apr 2015 OP
Ronnie Raygun should not be considered part of a better Repub party. He was horrendous NRaleighLiberal Apr 2015 #1
I agree N/T Dpm12 Apr 2015 #2
The GOP was never great Joe Turner Apr 2015 #3
Who would you say were their good GOP prezzes? Dpm12 Apr 2015 #5
Yep those would be my picks too Joe Turner Apr 2015 #7
Interesting. I would not say that the Republican party was ever great, but both parties were far LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #4
Not that Jamaal510 Apr 2015 #6

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
1. Ronnie Raygun should not be considered part of a better Repub party. He was horrendous
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 11:50 PM
Apr 2015

and a root cause of much of what we see now

 

Joe Turner

(930 posts)
3. The GOP was never great
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 12:56 AM
Apr 2015

They had a few good presidents but the party has always been a captive of wall street, corporations and the idle rich. New Ideas and Change are an anathema to its very existence.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
4. Interesting. I would not say that the Republican party was ever great, but both parties were far
Wed Apr 8, 2015, 04:37 AM
Apr 2015

more ideologically mixed in the past. The Dems were for a long while a strange coalition of progressives and neo-Confederates. The Republicans included mainstream conservatives, progressives indistinguishable from good Democrats, and the likes of Joe McCarthy.

Until the Eighties, it was even possible though very rare to have electoral contests at the state level, where the Republican was to the left of the Democrat. Joe Lieberman got into the Senate by defeating a Republican to his left.

There are some parallels in the UK. There was a time, the so-called 'postwar consensus', where the Tory leadership (though never all Tory MPs) tended to agree with moderate Labourites on the basics of society. Tories were always more sympathetic to the upper classes and big business; Labour to the working classes and the unions; but both parties agreed on the importance of a full-employment state, the importance of public services, and the need for a social safety net. Thatcher here, like Reagan in America, put an end to this. And this enabled Blair to move Labour to the Right. Now in England, the economic policy consensus is in many ways to the right of Conservatives of the Macmillan era. There is perhaps still some genuinely left-wing, anti-austerity sentiment among leaders in Scotland and Wales.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
6. Not that
Sat Apr 11, 2015, 02:08 AM
Apr 2015

this is a bad thread, but it's frustrating every time I see something like that link, and I get reminded of how far away the GOP strayed from what they used to be, and how this country doesn't have 2 sane major parties anymore. If they didn't move so far to the right and didn't let the billionaires/religious nuts hijack them, this entire country would've been in much better shape both economically and socially.

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