Hillary

[realFedUp]

We Hillary supporters lost to hopey/changey last time and on the whole I like Obama's decisions lately but we now have some hope that we will see the most qualified good woman as President of the United States and her smart husband in tow. We are ready to kick ass, especially stupid white male journalists and so-called politicians. We will challenge corporate media who work just for the money who don't report the truth. We are excited and fired up. Don't bend over.

[Jefferson23]

1. Lost to hopey/changey last time? That is where you wish to start, you sure about that? n/t

[realFedUp]

6. Where he started

Pretty innocuous campaign. Promises made.......he got what he wanted. Too
Bad the White House doesn't come with a golf course.

[Jefferson23]

8. Ok, I asked in good faith, best of luck to you...bye. n/t

[karynnj]

22. With that golf course comment you crossed into RW territory

I really don't get why you are doing this. It is an insult to many of the people who will be there for HRC - as they were for past Democrats.

From the tone of it and the OP it seems you are still angry that Clinton lost in 2008. It happens. There are years for everyone when their first choice loses. I KNOW that was my case in 1992 - but I then backed Clinton - read his book and found reasons to support him.

This is very likely your election - HRC will win the nomination. Have you ever thought that it might be better not to attack everyone who preferred Obama? After all, she needs us out there for her to win.

[treestar]

104. +1

good grief, there is no need to primary Obama now, so carrying that grudge from 8 years ago is in fact counterproductive.

[one_voice]

34. Golf course...

[still_one]

41. If your part of the Hillary campaign you and laney Davis should get together and lose

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

83. You mispelled Lamey Davis' first name.

[still_one]

91. thanks, good one. He is a very divisive person

[sheshe2]

53. Bad way to start. Very bad.

You want to promote Hillary? Do NOT trash this President. That is ugly.

Pretty innocuous campaign. Promises made.......he got what he wanted. Too
Bad the White House doesn't come with a golf course.

Wow just Wow.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

80. Sometimes, you just need to let go. Your candidate lost fair&square. If she's not careful she cud blow her chances & history will repeat itself.

[cali]

82. fuck your right wing talking points.

[BumRushDaShow]

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[treestar]

103. Um that last sentence

You do have a lot of posts. But I've never heard that kind of slam before from anyone who was not a Republican.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Sorry for your loss

Moving on can be so hard sometimes.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

81. I honestly can't say I'm sorry after the ugly, bitter PUMAttitude displayed by some.

[BeyondGeography]

87. The OP is part of a tiny minority, imo

And one thing this thread has done is bring out the many good people on this board who support Hillary, some of whom I actually remember tangling with eight years ago.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

88. Good point. The OP just reminded me of those times; the low-point in DU history if you ask me...

Definitely need to put that ugly history behind us.

[Drunken Irishman]

3. Hopey/Changey? Did you steal that from Sarah Palin.

[realFedUp]

7. Exactly his speech wording

Google his campaign speeches if you were young.

[emulatorloo]

105. Hopey Changey is a Sarah Palin catchphrase. Her words. Your words too

[Purveyor]

4. .

[bravenak]

5. Hopey changey? Really?

Sounds like something my former governor Sarah Palin might say. This kinda attitude will bring the obama coalition to her side, I suppose. I hope this is not the kind of tactics her supporters will fall back on, campaigning against Obama. One of the reasons I am not for Hillary is because of how her supporters and surrogates behaved last time.

[realFedUp]

9. I have a good memory

Refresh yours.

[bravenak]

14. Mine is perfect.

You seem to have forgotten the nasty racebaiting. I cannot forget it, ever. She never once apologized for the behaiviour of her surrogates.

[realFedUp]

19. Race Baiting?

Don't remember that because she isn't 't and wasn't fascist. Remember Michelle saying she was"nice enuf."

[bravenak]

24. Then I guess you forgot. Maybe your memory is not as good as you say.

You can always just google it.

[karynnj]

26. Michelle didn't say that - Obama did - in response to a question in a debate of whether she

was nice enough - he said she was. It was stunning how much was made of that. It's not clear how he should have answered.

Not to mention - racism is not fascism - and NO ONE said HRC was or said anything racist - her supporters did.

[still_one]

42. Are you paid to sabatouged the Hillary campaign because you are doing a good job of it

You think it is smart to dis Obama? You think they don't need Obama supporters to win?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

84. More like a selective memory; you really need to check yourself. Dog whistles have no place here.

[Purveyor]

10. Will we be hearing about 'shuck and jive' from the hillary camp too in the near future. Wouldn't be

surprised.

The DEM party will be so splinter by the time Nov 2016 rolls around, I doubt that we will be able to elect a 'dog catcher'...

[bravenak]

13. I agree.

I would not be surprised to see racebaiting again this time.

[greatauntoftriplets]

15. And the golf course reference above is a favorite of "them".

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

86. Yes, you got that right. The golf course comment is a favorite, especially in reference to the first black President.

[AtomicKitten]

35. Their racism is still barking: They are going after Eliz Warren's Native American heritage.

A claim MotherJones investigated and validated:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/05/elizabeth-warren-is-part-native-american

Cherokee Nation demands Scott Brown apolozize for "downright racist taunts" :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/cherokee-nation-scott-brown_n_1916404.html

But Scott Brown's racist taunts live on here at DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11073175
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6482624
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6482640

[sharp_stick]

11. Hopey/Changey

Well done, that's real subtle.

Sometimes I wonder who's actually posting on this site, they sure as shit aren't bright enough to be paid for it.

[RiverLover]

70. Nothing like quoting Sarah Palin to out yourself. /nt

[Smithryee]

12. As a flagbearer of the Democratic 1%

I'm sure she expects everyone to fall in line and vote for her.

She ain't getting mine in the primaries.

She'll get it at the GE if she's the nominee. No effort will be exerted from me as she is expected to be bowed upon.

[FSogol]

16. Unrec.

[still_one]

45. I concur, unrec big time

[OKNancy]

17. You don't speak for me.....

I support our President. Using language like that does not do Hillary any good or her supporters.
Obama is a Hillary supporter too... don't forget that. Afterall, by appointing her as Sec. of State, he gave her
a position of power and influence that propelled her to even greater heights politically.

[realFedUp]

20. Of course not

I am me.

[OKNancy]

23. ...but you did use the phrase "we Hillary supporters"

it's not really "we".
Posts like yours make us look bad. Can't you see that?

[JI7]

65. maybe that's the real point of this

[still_one]

46. I see your profile say Elizabeth Warren is your favorite group. Maybe you have an

Last edited Sat Apr 11, 2015, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)

Alternate agenda, trying to create disent with flame bait, maybe not.

I also notice your journal is very critical of Israel. You do realize that Hillary is an ardent supporter of Israel don't you?

[sheshe2]

56. That is

interesting. Thanks.

[still_one]

63. In fairness sometimes those statistics under profile are not that accurate, but here is the profile

linke:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=104881

[delrem]

28. You are 100% correct.

That phrase comes direct from Sarah Palin's script

"How's That Hopey-Changey Stuff Working Out For Ya?"

The OP is a abomination, channelling Palin and trying to attribute the sentiment to HRC's supporters.

(edited to delete unnecessary profanity --- sorreeee)

[DonCoquixote]

69. thank you for trying to rein in your fellow Hillary supporter

I realize some Hillary supporters do mean well, but the fellow you rebukes is very much the sort of person that we know, by voting for her, we empower, the sort of narcissistic, well to the right of Nixon, benefit cutting jerk that we have to fear only 10 percent less than the GOP. Yes, I repate the loyaltyy oath that yes, I will vopte fopr Hillary if she win s, even though the minute I say that, real fedup and his lik will simply plan to kick us out on the street the minute CNN announces election results... However, the fact is, the nasty wing of the clinton camp has made some big big losses, just ask Alison Grimes. Onl;y reason Rahm his his job is becuase the Koch brothers did not drop his opponent a lot of money, YET! When the day comes when we realize we do not need the "I can hate hippies as much as the GOP" crowd, they will find themselves where all fascists find themselves, waiting to be shipped off to the same fate they had no problem letting their supposed friends endure.

[one_voice]

18. Hopey/changey?

for real...you wanna use that?

[realFedUp]

21. He used it.

Hope and Chanel.....endlessly

[karynnj]

27. But not "hopey" or "changey"

Do you remember what BILL CLINTON's theme was in 1992 -- man from HOPE. A change theme is about as common as it gets whenever there is concern about the direction of the country.

[one_voice]

31. No he didn't...

He used Hope & Change. Sarah fuckin' Palin coined that hopey/changey shit.

You betcha!

[sheshe2]

57. Thank you!

[ALBliberal]

25. what's with the negativity? Obama and HRC are on the same side..

Seems their supporters should not be reliving the primary of eight years ago!

Sheesh we are damn lucky to have these two amazing leaders on the Dem side. We blow the republicans away with our quality candidates including Sanders and O'Malley. I just hate to see the negativity and bitterness when we have so much going for us on our side! Let's all get positive!

[realFedUp]

29. Just excited about a Hillary run

And negative comments followed

[ALBliberal]

32. respectfully your "hopey/changey" language is negative and sparked

Some comments in defense of Obama. Clean slate new election let's go Hillary!

[realFedUp]

30. Just glad we don't have morons in our party.

Nt

[one_voice]

36. mirror mirror on the wall....n/t

[still_one]

48. Your reflection is showing

[SidDithers]

75. But we have 'em at DU...nt

Sid

[Lancero]

33. Channeling Palin eh?

Of all the words you could have used, of all the ways you could have reworded it, did you really have to go with what Palins words?

[AtomicKitten]

39. It's familiar territory for them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/53563.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2012-05-30/the-democratic-roots-of-the-birther-movement

[panader0]

37. You're not going a very good job of promoting your candidate.

[still_one]

38. What a stupid comment. Obama will go down as one of the best presidents in modern times. I highly

Doubt Hillary would have accomplished 1/3 of what he has, and in many respects based on her comments would have engaged us militarily in Syria. Instead Obama with John Kerry got Syria to remove their chemical weapons

If The Hillary campaign decides to criticize the Obama administration as she and cronies like Podesta and Lanny Davis have been doing several months ago they will lose, just like she did when she said in the 2008 campaign that she and McCain were better able to handle foreign than Obama

History has shown that to be way off, unless war with Iran is considered a good thing

[krawhitham]

40. This is troll bait right?

[still_one]

43. Maybe paid to sabatouge the Hillary campaign. Something doesn't smell right

Why would someone supporting Hillary go out of their way to trash Obama?

[sharp_stick]

73. And pretty poorly done at that n/t

[Agschmid]

44. Fail.

[MissDeeds]

47. Unrec

Not doing your candidate any favors with this post.

[William769]

49. You do not speak for me nor any of the Hillary supporters that I know of on DU.

If you were a honorable person you would delete this OP. And I'll tell you right now, don't even bother coming into the Hillary Clinton Group with this tripe. It will not be tolerated.

It's bad enough I have to defend my self against many here that hate Hillary, now this? Jesus Fucking Christ!

[still_one]

50. Thank you for the sanity

[sheshe2]

59. They disrespect Hillary

AND OUR SITTING President. It is an ugly post. A very ugly post.

[sharp_stick]

72. Anybody that

believes this OP is genuine is deluded. A more obvious case of behavior relevant to those that dwell under bridges would be hard to come by.

[foo_bar]

74. how bout genuinely deluded?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/125186069

[sharp_stick]

78. Jesus

that's almost Perry Logan level weirdness.

[ScreamingMeemie]

51. "Don't bend over?" Really?

Wow... and a jury let it stand 1-6. Shame on you. If that's "excited and fired up." Please stop. That's disgusting and over the line.

[BlueStater]

52. It's really hard for me to see how anyone could be excited for this person.

I'm sick to death of both Hillary and her husband and I wish they'd go away.

[vadermike]

54. i will support the nominee

I will support our nominee.. to think that the GOP is THIS close to getting all three branches should terrify people... IMO if the GOP wins 2016.. its pretty much game over for the country and possible even our party... Hitler came to power in Germany as a fascist regime becasue of the very weak opposition.. whihc the Dems seem to be doing , but we will all lose so much if they don't take a stand... I will support Hill, i think she will be tough.. can she win? Yes, but her own worst enemy is herself IMO.. I think it would be good for the party to have a contested Primary tho..... IMO

[hrmjustin]

55. I like Obama's hope and change. I supported Hillary in 2008 but when it was over happily supported

Obama.

I don't like your comment above about golf courses and i think you should explain your point.

[roamer65]

58. Bush vs Clinton.

Makes ya wanna run for the sick bucket.

[Starry Messenger]

60. There's about a dime's worth of difference between Obama & Clinton

I like her but let's not pretend that policies are going to be much different.

[NYC Liberal]

61. "hopey/changey" – Don't embarass the rest of us Hillary supporters with nonsense like that.

Trying to restart primary wars that ended almost 8 years ago is petty and unnecessary.

[nolabear]

62. Oh let's not do it this way.

I have liked Obama as president though I supported Hillary initially. To put us against one another and throw around insults isn't good for anyone.

[JI7]

64. this comes off trollish

[LuvLoogie]

66. Drunk post.

Go to bed.

[akbacchus_BC]

67. Wow, you really know how to win the electorate!

Good luck with your BS post!

[DonCoquixote]

68. translation

but we now have some hope that we will see the most qualified good woman as President of the United States and her smart husband in tow.

Translation, you want a Third term for Bill, even in light of stuff like Nafta, the telecommincations act, Glass-Steagall and a b unch of things that Hillary could easily say "I will turn those back" but will not.

We Hillary supporters lost to hopey/changey last time

Translation, at the very least you wer bitter Obama beat your champion, and probably scronful of the hope and change we Am,ericans genuinely needed, the stuff Obama admittedly abandoned when he hired Clitnon apparatchiks, including Clinton herself.

[LiberalAndProud]

71. You don't hold a grudge, do you?

That's what I thought.

If I might offer some advice, if you hope to woo Obama voters to Hillary enthusiasts, it might be better to be a little less critical of our current Democratic President. It doesn't seem particularly productive and might tend to divide us over old battle wounds.

Unless you *meant* this as flame bait. If that's the case, I suppose you could consider your post a success.

[fadedrose]

76. A tip

The people who like Obama, and there are many, don't like to see him trashed as you have done in some of your posts. If this is the route you folks choose, it won't work. We Obama fans actually love him, golf course and all.

The Congress throughout his tenure, and the last election where Democrats the Hillary Democrats as they called themselves) washed their hands of him didn't seem to have any impact on you.

He's popular in the world, moreso than any president we've had in my lifetime.

[99Forever]

77. I will vote my conscience.

This sort of vile bating right out of the gate, is unconscionable, and unfortunately exactly what we have come to expect from HRC and her supporters.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

90. Can't say this OP represents the majority of HRC supporters, who are pretty decent folks for the most part.

[99Forever]

92. Regardless.

The sentiment it displays, is completely familiar to me. The attitude and strategy though somewhat over the top, defines a huge problem for this candidate.

[William769]

93. You might see better if you took your blinders off.

Just sayin.

[99Forever]

94. I might say exactly the same to you.

There is none so blind, as those that simply refuse to see.

[William769]

95. This thread definitely disagrees with your assumption.

Once again, just sayin.

[99Forever]

96. You see what you want.

I see what actually is.

[William769]

97. I see what everyone else see's.

Someone still trying to keep the divisiveness alive.

And with that, have a nice day.

[99Forever]

98. So you speak for everyone now.

Good to know. I missed that memo.

[handmade34]

79. maybe

you have gotten up this morning and realize how awful your post is... please delete it if you want to help Hillary supporters...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

85. I stand with President Obama and Secretary Of State Clinton

I request you ask the administrator to delete this entire thread, post haste.

Sincerely,

DemocratSinceBirth

[RedCappedBandit]

89. Childish tripe. nt

[DonCoquixote]

100. to all the Hillary supporters

that condemned this troll, thank you. We may seem like we are in a civil war at times, but the GOP will be surprised when the fangs start digging into their neck!

Though how the hell did a jury accept "don't bend over?". It is like this post was wirtten by a computer to specifly offend gays, blacks and to quote the op "white male journalists"

Is anyone still doing the DuZy's?, we got a keeper here!

[hifiguy]

101. Your chosen verbiage tracks remarkably with

reichwing talking points. You DO realize that, don't you?

[treestar]

102. We did get hope and change

people forgot about where we were headed under the Bush administration? We were turned around to back to normal by the talents of a very good President. And started on the path to universal health care.

I'm not anti-Hillary, but she's hardly the agent of the change on the order demanded of President Obama by the disappointed.

I do like the idea of the husband "in tow" however. Bill is going to be a charming First Lady.

[NM_Birder]

106. "especially stupid white male journalists"

there is your campaign slogan.