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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOMG! Bill Maher offered Elizabeth Warren a million dollar contribution to
run for President and she said no.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)She does not want to be President.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)She has no desire for that thankless job.
She likes what she is doing now, and is good at it.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)So we can set the agenda there.
We are at the beginning of the primary. Hillary may win, because among Democratic voters she is very popular right now. One of the men she is running agianst may get win.
then we get ot decide who we vote for in the Geneal election.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Even more so with STATE races!!!
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)found the Progressive Caucus way back in 1992, when Elizabeth Warren was still a Bush voting Republican enriching herself on enormous consultancy fees from companies like Traveler's Insurance, a part of Citigroup. In my book a 'real progressive' does not have an asterisk next to their name explaining their 30 years of hard core conservatism nor the sources of their wealth.
So people who walk right past Bernie chattering about how they are too progressive for Hillary so they have to support one of three ex Republicans, Warren, Webb or Chafee, do not have me convinced that they are in fact progressives. Sorry. I'm gay, not a Republican and never have been, I considered Reagan and his minions to be selfish, right wing bigots and also shallow idiots.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)about party and join the Democratic Party to be in the Primary?
I look forward to him joing the party and running in the primary.
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)We are trying to get Warren to change her mind (Just like Hillary has done, she said she would never run again after 2008), no one is forcing Warren to do anything
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Choose one of the other in the priimary.
Smithryee
(157 posts)He will be the president EVERY American was looking for.
Not some corporatist 1% that is "lesser of the two evils" of another corporatist 1%
I believe Bernie has the gumptions, the support and the grassroots to get it done.
Both Democratic and Republican voters agree - BERNIE is the answer.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)elleng
(130,866 posts)he'd give her 1 million (as he did with Senator Obama)
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)lol
delrem
(9,688 posts)I don't think he's very funny, either.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)RealityAdvocate
(106 posts)realFedUp
(25,053 posts)The woman on the panel was married today and her late afternoon was spent on the BM show?....
arcane1
(38,613 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)She still hasn't said she won't run!
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)How else can she say it?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/elizabeth-warren-gives-strongest-denial-presidential-run-yet
krawhitham
(4,644 posts)Hillary Clinton said today she wont run again for elective office, ruling out a future presidential bid.
I am very happy doing what Im doing and I am not in any way interested in or pursuing anything in elective office, the 63-year-old former First Lady said on the Fox News Sunday program.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-21/hillary-clinton-says-she-won-t-run-again-for-elective-office.html
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http://www.thewire.com/politics/2012/12/hillary-clinton-says-shes-not-running-2016-again/59908/
"I've said I really dont believe that that's something I will do again," Clinton tells Barbara Walters in an early clip released from Walters's 10 Most Fascinating People special, set to air tonight. "I am so grateful I had the experience of doing it before. I think there are lots of ways to serve, so Ill continue to serve." As if that wasn't clear enough, there's one more denial:
I just want to see what else is out there. Ive been doing this incredibly important and satisfying work in Washington as I say for 20 years. I want to get out and spend some time looking at what else I can do to contribute.
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2012/12/hillary-clinton-says-shes-not-running-2016-again/59908/
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Plus more times she has said she is not running
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/12/hillary-clinton-says-she-wont-run-for-president-again/
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/clinton-says-she-wont-run-again/?_r=0
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20311666,00.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/17/news/la-pn-hillary-clinton-future-20111017
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/18/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-2016-election/1641869/
http://www.firstpost.com/world/not-running-for-presidency-in-2016-hillary-clinton-496172.html
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Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)However, she's going for something with all these appearances in the past week. It's not just to promote her book although that's the cover. The book has been out for almost a year.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)It's the perfect time to fight for the issues she cares about. She might never have this much influence again, and she's using this opportunity to bring issues like wealth inequality front and center. It may be that simple. If people are actually gonna listen, she's not gonna waste this chance.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)I think she could win.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)like LBJ did in New Hampshire 1968. And for damn good reasons. The person who holes the ship need not be the one who eventually gets the nomination.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)How possible/likely is it that she could be Hillary's running mate? Or does a woman/woman ticket make it less likely they would win?
Is a woman/woman ticket unlikely to happen for a long, long time?
Cleita
(75,480 posts)I've been trying to figure out Warren's M/O. Could she be angling for VP? No, I don't think so. I think she's actually trying to pull Hillary to the left. Hillary has noticed her popularity.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Force the leaders in the Democratic Party, including Hillary, to see the hunger for a populist, liberal message.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)full tilt, supply side, Nixon/Reagan/Bush Republican. Republican during Vietnam, Watergate, the Gulf War, the shameful Republican betrayal of America around AIDS, she remained a Republican though all of that, until she was in her late 40's, until she was wealthy from all sorts of high dollar Corporate consultancy work.
So how did she, suddenly and without any outside influence, instantly transport from the George Bush right to a position so far to the left that she is literally pulling other people, people who were never in a racist, homophobic Party of war mongering pirates, to the left.
Hillary was a Democratic First Lady attempting to create a national health care program when Liz was still voting for George Bush. That's a fact. Bernie Sanders was helping found the Progressive Caucus in the House when Liz was still a Republican.
So skipping the part about who and what pulled Warren to the left is a real gap in this narrative. It's inexplicable. It's a very important part of her story, and it is continuously left out of the telling. So far, when asked why she was a Republican Warren has said she liked their fiscal policy, but of course those policies gutted the middle class and killed off the Unions, burdened the poor and ignored our responsibilities in public health and education. Those fiscal policies also came with strident Anti Choice and Anti -Gay politics and Warren was in that Party. Because she liked their economic ideas, which were terrible. Took her 30 years to figure it out.
Tell me how Warren got moved to the left, then you can tell me she's pulling others in that direction.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Hillary was a Republican too and a Goldwater Republican at that. Her health plan was no different than Bob Dole's health plan, a Republican. Hillary never even considered Single Payer or Medicare for all. Many Republicans have come over to the Democrats once they realize that Republicans don't have answers that help the common person. Frankly, I'm for Bernie Sanders, not Warren or Clinton. But if Warren can pull Hillary further to the left, and if you take your head out of the clouds for a moment to look at reality, you will see just that.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)I want you to think about what is the single most important issue in the world for you.
How likely is it if you were running for high office that you would choose as a running mate someone who is diametrically-opposed to your position on that issue and wants to see your most-ardent supporters on that issue imprisoned?
(I can't believe Elizabeth Warren isn't lying when she says nice things about Hillary...I honestly suspect that she hates her guts for being so cozy with very same the Wall St. bankers Warren wants regulated and prosecuted for their crimes.)
Also, I'm 99% sure that Hillary has already chosen and vetted her running mate...pretty sure it's Julian Castro. Pretty sure that she's already run the polls and determined that it might put TX in play or have down-ticket ramifications. I mean, if you can't win TX...can you think of too many things sweeter than flipping House seats or state legislative seats in TX? It moves towards the day when TX is a battleground state.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Insurance, a part of Citigroup? That would be Elizabeth Warren, critic of Citigroup. I would suggest that such details are left out of her story in service to a more useful narrative....
It's pretty sever to have taken millions of dollars in fees from Corporate interests then claim not to have done so, in fact claiming you hate anyone who has anything to do with such Corporations. Hypocrisy, a double standard.
Double standards are the building blocks conservatives use to construct institutional favoritism toward their own chosen ones.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Also, it would be helpful to put up your sources, for these allegations. Oh, yes, she writes about it in her book, doesn't she?
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Warren helps Hillary IMO.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)I think there a lot of men - even men who typically vote Dem - who would be turned off with the woman/woman pairing
Even if they don't consciously recognize it - you know those studies that show that women in power are perceived as bossy and aggressive but a man in the same spot, saying the same things and using the same body language, is perceived as strong and all-around better than the woman
Stellar
(5,644 posts)He has always loved Senator Warren. He gave it to President Obama, you know he will give it to her too.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Brett Fitz
(52 posts)What a concept!
Lancero
(3,003 posts)But that's not what she means.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6488025
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Rape jokes are never funny. Wtf.
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Explanation: Ugh, while I can easily see how this joke is a good description for the pro-Warren crowd - People who think that they know how what she wants, moreso then she herself does - it is still a inappropriate 'joke' to use, even with sarcasm tags.
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Explanation: It's not a rape joke. It's a joke on Warren supporters who insist on disregarding her stated position on running for president. I urge the alerter to not exploit DUs sensitivity to rape as cover for hiding an inconvenient political post.
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yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)"I am not running for president."
Well, obviously. The question is, "Would you be willing to run for president?" Not asked or answered.
So following our new standard of journalism: since Elizabeth Warren said nothing about whether she will run... she might run!
And Maher will give Elizabeth One Million Dollars?