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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 04:46 PM Apr 2015

Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election

Unless the economy goes into a recession over the next year and a half, Hillary Clinton is probably going to win the presidential election. The United States has polarized into stable voting blocs, and the Democratic bloc is a bit larger and growing at a faster rate.

Of course, not everybody who follows politics professionally believes this. Many pundits feel the Democrats’ advantage in presidential elections has disappeared, or never existed. “The 2016 campaign is starting on level ground,” argues David Brooks, echoing a similar analysis by John Judis. But the evidence for this is quite slim, and a closer look suggests instead that something serious would have to change in order to prevent a Clinton victory. Here are the basic reasons why Clinton should be considered a presumptive favorite:

1. The Emerging Democratic Majority is real. The major disagreement over whether there is an “Emerging Democratic Majority” — the thesis that argues that Democrats have built a presidential majority that could only be defeated under unfavorable conditions — centers on an interpretive disagreement over the 2014 elections. Proponents of this theory dismiss the midterm elections as a problem of districting and turnout; Democrats have trouble rousing their disproportionately young, poor supporters to the polls in a non-presidential year, and the tilted House and Senate map further compounded the GOP advantage.

Skeptics of the theory instead believe that the 2014 midterms were, as Judis put it, “not an isolated event but rather the latest manifestation of a resurgent Republican coalition.” Voters, they argue, are moving toward the Republican Party, and may continue to do so even during the next presidential election.

It has been difficult to mediate between the two theories, since the outcome at the polls supports the theory of both the proponents and the skeptics of the Emerging Democratic Majority theory equally well.

A Pew survey released this week gives us the best answer. Pew is the gold standard of political polling, using massive surveys, with high numbers of respondents and very low margins of error. Pew’s survey shows pretty clearly that there was not a major change in public opinion from the time of Obama’s reelection through the 2014 midterms:



Of course, Pew is not surveying actual voters. It’s surveying all adults. But that is the point. What changed between 2012 and 2014 was not public opinion, but who showed up to vote.

2. No, youngsters are not turning Republican. The Emerging Democratic Majority thesis places a lot of weight on cohort replacement: Republicans fare best with the oldest voters, and Democrats with the youngest, so every new election cycle incrementally tilts the electoral playing field toward the Democrats.

More here: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/why-hillary-clinton-is-probably-going-to-win.html

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Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win the 2016 Election (Original Post) Playinghardball Apr 2015 OP
If we elected Presidents by popular vote this might matter more (and Al Gore would be ex-President). PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #1
I hope this guy is right then. House of Roberts Apr 2015 #2
I sure hope that Chait is right. Beacool Apr 2015 #3
probably but she won't get my vote, in the primary or in the general. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #4
Nate Silver's take on the issue... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #5
Can she win the primaries first please? LiberalElite Apr 2015 #6
Apparently, she's going straight to the GE without passing "Go." nt LWolf Apr 2015 #7

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. If we elected Presidents by popular vote this might matter more (and Al Gore would be ex-President).
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 04:51 PM
Apr 2015

As we don't arguments not based on the distribution of voters and the electoral college miss the point.

House of Roberts

(5,164 posts)
2. I hope this guy is right then.
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 04:55 PM
Apr 2015
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