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(44,397 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts).....then saying it's an Israeli Flag with a mushroom cloud over it.
You know,....because Benghazi....Iran,...nukes.
Ya know?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)It's very confusing if one just does the avatar without the quote that it might be mistaken as "Go With Hillary...Move to the Right."
Sorry....it's really confusing, imho.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The Hillary logo says: I'll take you backwards and to the right.
Wow, who did she hire to design that blooper? Dems don't need such awful mistakes made by our only candidate, so far, on her first day out. Come on Clinton team, get on the ball. If you going to be our candidate, then please stop with the sophmoric mistakes.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,159 posts)The 'H' is in the Latin (ie West European) script, which is read from the left to the right. It's what you're reading right now.
The meme of pointing right to mean 'forward' has moved beyond the dominant written languages of the world into the purely symbolic - look at a control for a DVD, YouTube or similar and the 'play' button points to the right, as does the 'fast forward' button.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)the substance isn't. Whatever it might be. I just don't see warm and fuzzy after 2008. And PLEASE, keep Bill somewhere else! Oh well, que sera - as long as she can beat Jeb, who I think is a lock for the GOP. Can't imagine any of the other clowns in the car have a chance.
Wonder if we'll ever have a black woman, atheist and gay. Nah - not in this lifetime. Gotta go back to bed. The idiotic things that come to mind when you haven't slept.
valerief
(53,235 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)fixed, sorry.
Skinner
(63,645 posts)Funniest post I've read here in a long time.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)you know I'm right.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Thats funny
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Arrow-Ghazi!
CTyankee
(63,771 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,132 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)Are a couple quick links
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/22/newt-s-kind-words-for-president-hillary.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026395911
The DU post has more links for you. Both Gingrich and Kissinger have stated they wouldn't have a problem with Hillary Clinton as president
leveymg
(36,418 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)She is much smarter. But otherwise, I am with you
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Red arrow facing right. Gotcha Hillary, as if we needed more proof.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Symbolism is everything, and that's the first thing that came to my mind. I was shocked, thinking it was an anti-Hillary avatar to be honest.
ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)What a load.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)with a little pizzazz is all
appalachiablue
(41,056 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,349 posts)eye of the beholder, LOL.
I see it as Hillary moving right, i.e., correctly or forward.
Those who want to put a "to the right" spin on this logo will do so, just as anyone who wants to impugn Hillary's candidacy will do so no matter what her logo is, or where it points, or whatever else there is about it. That's just part of trivia of the US political scene.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)but hey, if it gets you a laugh, I'm all for berating my driving.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)seriously, don't feel bad.
I do ok driving forward, it's backing up I have a problem with
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Me too. My back window has some sort of anti-glare coating which translates to: really blurry back window you cant see shit out of". I cross my fingers and dread the scream every time I put the car in reverse. Some things are universal I guess.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)I've backed up and knocked down mailboxes (3). I've backed into trees. Not too long ago I forgot my son's truck was behind me and just plowed into his truck in reverse. Most recent was a car parked on the street behind me. It was early in the morning and the car was already in bad shape, so when no one came out of the house, I just drove off.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)punched a hexagonal shape right through my license plate (and car). The damn stick was on the OTHER side of the hydrant when I backed up. Would it kill someone to put a stick on both sides?
I also backed into a shitbox at the video store decades ago. He never would have noticed if I didnt go in and point it out. He laughed and said "have you looked at my car?" Almost made me want to ram it again just for fun on my way out.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)had the opportunity once and my family wouldn't let me. That was the last time I took them to the county fair with me.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)At least once a day I wish I could. Oh... cut ME off? SMASH! Then Id have cotton candy. Win.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)what could be better?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)The moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligned with Mars
now peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!
everybody sing!
sorry folks, I couldn't help it.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)RKP5637
(67,032 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... that if the moon is in the Seventh (or any other) house, it's going to be there for a maximum of about 2 hours.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Crazy for red blue and white..... and yellow fringe.....
RealityAdvocate
(106 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)I think I like it.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)rainmaker21
(52 posts)All the symbolism is subliminally negative for a democrat.
William769
(55,124 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)sheshe2
(83,355 posts)Don't tell anyone! Yikes.
LOL~ Wonder if Skinner will get a hide here. Some do not like Democrats much.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)That said, the graphics from the Obama team set the standards pretty high.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Honestly? It's not the best campaign logo I've seen.
Maybe minimalism is in, I don't know. I'm not always so good at predicting artistic trends.
CTyankee
(63,771 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Now if she had stuck some sierpinski action in there, I would be more down.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,273 posts)1979. I think I remember
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)"How about the letter 'H' with a forward arrow?"
"Great!"
"That'll be $80,000 please."
Is there a word for minimalism combined with clumsy unsubtlety?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)No one asked me.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)...for "The List"
I kid, I kid. Sorta.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)sense, particularly sites catering to political subterraneans? After Snowden, can there be any doubt why they call it, The Web?
Speaking of webs, I usually trap spiders with a wine glass and a piece of cardboard. A trace of wine at the bottom helps to calm them. I can attest to that. When they come to, they're safely outside on a forsythia bush. Hopefully, the spiders around here will return the favor.
highplainsdem
(48,732 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,308 posts)I like it, even though I am (so far) not pro-Hillary.
Lyric
(12,675 posts)I like mine too
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I will preface by saying I will vote for Hillary and not ever be ridiculously rude about her.
That said, they could have/should have done better than this.
I see:
"Hillary is to the Right of Center" --especially when you figure in the red arrow.
I'm sorry. I can't help it, but this was super ill-advised, and I'm not trying to be a poopyhead. I'm being completely honest.
yardwork
(61,418 posts)To win, the Democratic candidate must attract conservative Dema and Independentts. By combining the red and blue and putting an arrow pointing right, the campaign hopes to connect with those voters.
Whatever It takes. I don't want JEB in the White House.
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)progressoid
(49,827 posts)Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #36)
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Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Her 15-year old campaign started back in 2000!!
bvf
(6,604 posts)But good point.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)The HRC camp has had eight years to come up with ideas for this campaign, and none of this is accidental. It is meant to send a message, and it has. Buyer beware.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Quite true.
joshcryer
(62,265 posts)It should appeal to the broadest base possible, the diminutive interpretations won't work, despite the best tries.
The arrow is pointing forward.
The color is the historical color of the democrats and the left.
That's the symbolism they were going for.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Sit down and write a capital H.
truebrit71
(20,805 posts)Sigh....
cbayer
(146,218 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)What is it about Hillary's platform that you support?
Are you simply following the crowd and supporting her because she puts a D after her name or is there something specific that she has promised to support and do during her hoped for presidency that causes you to support her?
Anyway, what does she stand for when all is said and done?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)I hope Skinner will clarify. He did do a "Winky" ....but, I'm not savvy enough to figure which way he was going on that. He did say "My Avatar" so...I took it that he designed it. But, what was with the "Winky?"
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)He's a supporter of Hillary Clinton for President. He is in no way saying that you must support HC or leave the website, which was the question asked by the person I responded to. I don't understand what is so baffling about his post.
NYC Liberal
(20,132 posts)She stands for supporting the working and middle-class of this country.
She stands for equal rights for all.
She stands for choice.
She stands for the right to health care.
She stands for millionaires and billionaires paying their fair share in taxes.
She stands for protecting society from gun nuts.
She stands for Social Security.
She stands for immigrants.
She stands for everything Democrats, and liberals, believe in.
That's why Elizabeth Warren thinks she is "terrific."
That's why other progressives like Howard Dean and Al Franken support her.
It's why I support her.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)For more H1-B visas? For unaffordable college costs? And unaffordable pre-school tuition? What does she stand for that hasn't already been won?
Does she stand for a public option or single payer? Does she stand for better reforms in our financial sector? Does she stand for collecting taxes on profits earned by the sale of products made abroad in the US?
Of the issues of our time, what does she stand for?
The issues you addressed are issues of the past for the most part. A few of them are still in debate, but most have been decided. Not once and for all, perhaps, but decided. Where does she stand on today's issues?
rpannier
(24,304 posts)the list is nice, but there are no details provided especially on ones that I do think require specifics
1. How does she stand for working and middle class families? What has she done to prove this. - What did she do while on the board of Walmart, as US Senator, as prominent figure in the public eye. What specifics has she provided?
2. What is her definition of fair share?
- Nixon era taxes, Eisenhower era, what is fair share?
3. How does she plan on protecting us from gun nuts?
- Which laws does she plan on enacting? Is she going to reintroduce the laws her husband signed. For some baffling reason opposition to gun control laws has grown since the spate of shootings.
Honestly, that baffles me. Unless people are afraid they need to be armed in the event there is a shoot-out at the OK Movie Theater. I find i t odd.
4. How does she stand for immigrants?
- Does she support the expansion of H1B Visas
5. How does she support social security?
-What are her proposals for making it more solvent? Or is she just opposed to cutting it?
Does she support
Expanding US presence in the Middle East
(and no I did not forgive Kerry for voting for the invasion of Iraq either. It's why I didn't vote for him in the primaries. Nor did I vote for him in the general election. But that's kind of a non-issue. Illinois voter and he was gonna win Illinois. So, it was easy to claim the so-called high road)
Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996, signed by her husband. The act which is partially responsible for the poor and unemployed getting access to benefits
the repeal of the Banking Act of 1933 aka Glass-Steagall signed by her husband
private charter schools
As to Warren, Dean and Franken... what do you expect them to say?
I am still waiting for Franken to do something about the slave labor conditions in Saipan that he found so deplorable in his book 'The Truth'. I have inquired and never gotten a straight answer from his office.
It would have been nice if Senator Franken had brought that up in 2009.
Howard Dean seems to be a supporter of Michelle Rhee. He got in a twit war with people over the issue of charter schools.
(i don't twitter cuz i think it's silly and ridiculous)
I'm going to wait and see who all throws their hat in the ring and decide which one best fits the qualities I want to see in a president. If it's Clinton, so be it. If it's O' Malley cool. We'll see.
zappaman
(20,605 posts)You still clicking your wish shoes for Warren?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)End of story. If you don't know by now that he allows all kinds of bashing of President Obama on their site when he's an Obama supporter then you never will.
Autumn
(44,765 posts)Wow.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Autumn
(44,765 posts)"zazzy" and not fedexy
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)This logo will be perfect for say an iPhone app though!
progressoid
(49,827 posts)Autumn
(44,765 posts)Hekate
(90,202 posts)I'm biding my time for another few minutes
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"The seven kingdoms needs a ruler loved by millions, with a powerful army, and the right family name"
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)and everyone else is to the right?"
Triana
(22,666 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Gothmog
(144,005 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)madinmaryland
(64,920 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Woof.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)I think it sucks.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,781 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)herding cats
(19,549 posts)That trend on the right has been disturbing, to say the least.
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Snarkoleptic
(5,995 posts)Hmmm, it fits. I'll take it!
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Does the logo for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign look a bit too familiar?
One response was a tweet from media organization WikiLeaks, accusing Clinton's campaign of swiping their insignia. "Hillary Clinton has stolen our innovative WikiLeaks twitter logo design," reads a post from the organization's official Twitter page.
The tweet offered a side-by-side comparison of the logos. WikiLeaks' artwork features an hourglass with a dripping earth, along with a red arrow, while Clinton's shows a red arrow used to form a large "H."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wikileaks-hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-788140?utm_source=twitter
:small
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)How ridiculously narcissistic of them.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)the this way to the hospital people.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)Love it
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)aspirant
(3,533 posts)The 2 blue rectangles symbolize the true democratic pathway and the red Repub right-pointing arrow shows how they just walk right over us.
hay rick
(7,522 posts)BainsBane
(53,003 posts)and want the "forever war," so I have been told repeatedly when I've failed to denounce Hillary Clinton. Whatever will the keyboard intelligentsia do now that you've turned to the dark side?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)"By their fruits ye shall know them."
BainsBane
(53,003 posts)any day. Included in that track record is the only sustained effort in US history to implement single payer healthcare. She's also been committed to Democratic policies since she was young, and has worked hard for women's rights around the world. That is of course all the more reason for reactionaries to oppose her.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And I was against starting the Iraq War which killed a million or so people.
sheshe2
(83,355 posts)It is his Op~
sheshe2
(83,355 posts)Skinner is being so divisive on a Democratic Board! He supports Hillary???? Supported Obama as well????
Holy Shit, who knew people actually supported Democrats on a Democratic board.
Thank you Skinner!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Have you no shame sir!
muriel_volestrangler
(101,159 posts)whether it's a burning American flag:
a subtle reference to Rand Paul's unusual hair - soon to be on fire?
or the Jeb (pronounced 'Heb') Bush logo excitingly previewed by TBogg:
Many more on the TBogg page:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/your-world-is-on-fire-your-guide-to-2016-gop-nominee-flaming-campaign-logos/
(including a classic Palin one, but I think he deserves the traffic, so go there to see it).
Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)Just spit coffee on my Kindle and I'm not even upset about it. Laughing too hard.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)IronLionZion
(45,269 posts)rpannier
(24,304 posts)seems to invite derision, scorn and/or adulation, cheering
I'm not sure what the rush is unless you've been a Clinton supporter all along
I find the whole thing silly at this point
But, it'll piss some people off and others will swell with pride.
I think no matter who else declares (or doesn't declare) it'll be met with the same basic responses
By the time the first caucus rolls around there will likely be 1000 buses with a myriad of corpses underneath
IronLionZion
(45,269 posts)but some folks get emotionally attached and worked up over what random people post on a forum. Whenever I get like that, I just avoid forums for a bit and I feel better.
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)A forward arrow superimposed on an "H" for Hillary. Simple, clean and memorable.
It's interesting to see all of the interpretations of it from those who oppose her candidacy. Primary season is going to be very interesting, it seems.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)so I guess it's pretty accurate. I appreciate your honesty!
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Skinner
(63,645 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,159 posts)It was one of the last places I looked for that logo, since I thought 'well, it's obviously not a slogan ...'. There are many things there I'd never think of as a 'slogan' - rainbow flag, Democratic donkeys, and many more.
madokie
(51,076 posts)otherwise you'd be tared and feathered and rode out of town on a rail
Personally I like it
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)George II
(67,782 posts).....what direction do racecars face in the front stretch? What direction do racehorses run in the homestretch?
It's pointing FORWARD to me.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Response to Skinner (Original post)
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Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)truebrit71
(20,805 posts)"Hillary is moving right"....
calimary
(80,700 posts)Lately, I've heard this joke running through the back of my head - whenever I hear or see somebody waffling around about how they can't vote for Hillary, won't vote for Hillary, they want that other person over there who seems perfect but she doesn't want to run, or he wants to run but doesn't have the big push or machinery behind him.
The joke (and you've undoubtedly heard it) is about the guy stranded on his rooftop while the floodwaters are rising, rather ominously. He prays to God. "PLEASE RESCUE ME, OH LORD! DELIVER ME FROM THE FLOODWATERS!"
And a boat comes by - "hey dude! Get on! Let's get you to safety!"
Man on roof: "Oh NO! The LORD will save me!" "SAVE ME DEAR GOD!"
And another boat comes by, fire department. "HEY! YOU on the roof! HERE! Get onboard! HURRY!!!"
Man on roof: "NO! My LORD is going to save me! I trust in GOD!" PLEASE DEAR GOD! SAVE ME!!!"
And soon there's a police chopper hovering overhead. They holler down with their megaphone: "SIR! HEY! We're lowering a ladder! Grab a hold! We'll airlift you outta there!"
Man on roof: "Oh NO! Thanks but NO! My GOD will save me! GOD WILL SAVE ME! I BELIEVE!!!!" "DEAR LORD! SAVE ME!"
And the floodwaters rise. And he's swept off the roof and drowns.
Man gets to the Pearly Gates. Can't believe where he wound up. What the heck happened? "Dear God, why didn't you come? Why weren't you there? I called upon you repeatedly and believed! Why didn't you come save me?"
The Lord: "Hey, what are you talking about??? For Heaven's sake, I sent two boats and a helicopter!"
calimary's moral-of-the-story: Hey, here's a shot at two boats and a helicopter. Grab a hold and get off the roof before the GOP floodwaters drown you! HERE'S your rescue, whether you recognize it or not. It's not The Lord. It's not the perfect rescue you prayed for. But it's a way out of danger, forcryingoutloud. We should grab WHAT'S THERE. We need to dance with WHAT'S THERE. If we wait around for the perfect, for the perfect rescue, the perfect dancing partner, the perfect ANYTHING (or rather - WHAT WE THINK is the perfect fill-in-the-blank-here), that will leave the way open for the bad guys to sweep into the White House again.
I guarantee - those who waited or held out will NOT like the results they get, if THAT scenario happens. GUARANTEED. ABSOLUTELY ROCK-SOLID CAST-IN-BRONZE-WITH-CONCRETE-FOOTINGS GUARANTEED.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)And then the guy drowns.
IOW, we need to help each other.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)NT
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)LOLZ