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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:11 AM May 2012

"...There are no more Blue Dogs, they're called Republicans."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/05/quote_of_the_day.html

Quote of the Day

"I think if you look all across the country, the so-called Blue Dogs are all gone to kennel. There are no more Blue Dogs, they're called Republicans."

-- Rep. Tim Griffin (R-AR), quoted by Politico.
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"...There are no more Blue Dogs, they're called Republicans." (Original Post) babylonsister May 2012 OP
Have fellow Arkansans Mike Ross and Mark Pryor suddenly become Republicans? Art_from_Ark May 2012 #1
They are.. butterfly77 May 2012 #2
And their godfather is Zell Miller. Chipper Chat May 2012 #4
Mostly Republican my ass - not a BD out there under 80% party line vote. nt dmallind May 2012 #3
Every time I looked in the Democrat-Gazette, Art_from_Ark May 2012 #5
Doesn't the percentage depend upon who is counting? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #6
Bullshit. Even DU is more blue dog than progressive these days... saras May 2012 #7
Yep. nt raouldukelives May 2012 #10
But they vote with the Democrats on every issue except... kentuck May 2012 #8
Also, this line of reckoning ignores the "Democratic" garbage they help drive through the vote for TheKentuckian May 2012 #9

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
1. Have fellow Arkansans Mike Ross and Mark Pryor suddenly become Republicans?
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:30 AM
May 2012

Their respective voting records are *mostly* Republican, but as far as I know, they still add the "D" to their names.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
5. Every time I looked in the Democrat-Gazette,
Sun May 6, 2012, 10:29 AM
May 2012

it seemed like Pryor and Ross were voting with the R's. But according to this web site, he has voted with his party 87% of the time in 2011. I have a hard time believing that, but even if it is true, it still ranks him near the bottom in the Senate (46th out of 51).

http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Mark_Pryor

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. Doesn't the percentage depend upon who is counting?
Sun May 6, 2012, 11:58 AM
May 2012

As an example, Indiana's Rep Joe Donnelly (D-and now Senate candidate)
"voted with the Democratic Party 71 (%) of the time" according to the website Open Congress.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Joe_Donnelly

In contrast, "The Washington Post, concludes that
he votes 88.5% of the time with the majority of rank-and-file Democrats in the House of Representatives."
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Joe_Donnelly

Aside from what we are told that we are supposed to approve regardless of what the public at large believes,
according to Gallup polls:
"61% of Americans disapprove of TARP;"
"56% of Americans disapproved of the auto bailout;"
"57% of U.S. voters believe that the stimulus has either hurt the economy (36%) or had no impact (21%)."

Donnelly voted for all three.

For us, depending upon you believe that TARP, etc., benefited us, you may conclude that either makes him a good reliable Democrat or not.

For his big-money donors (and most of his money comes from big-money donors), the major issues are whether he can be counted on to support more tax-breaks for the rich, more free-trade agreements, and a continuation of endless wars. If they can't get enough people to vote for a Republican to replace Senator Lugar (R, often called a "moderate&quot , they will settle for Donnelly.

No one should rely upon Rep. Tim Griffin (R-AR). Republicans have been known to be wrong before. And they have been known to lie.

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
7. Bullshit. Even DU is more blue dog than progressive these days...
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:05 PM
May 2012

Support the security state? You're a blue dog.
Support the banker's continued employment? You're a blue dog.
Think the military should be viewed as a career opportunity? You're a blue dog.
Spend your days supporting a multinational corporation? You're a blue dog.

We're still the farthest to the right that we've been in the last 100 years.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
8. But they vote with the Democrats on every issue except...
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:30 PM
May 2012

..the biggest, most important issues. So what's the problem??

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
9. Also, this line of reckoning ignores the "Democratic" garbage they help drive through the vote for
Sun May 6, 2012, 12:52 PM
May 2012

because of the strong corporate influences everything we put forward isn't sunshine and puppies either, it is the price of letting this crowd run the party.

Then there is the bipartisan garbage that everyone jumps on along with the fluff like ceremonial days of honor and naming shit.

If it is good for the country without stuffing some rich fucker's pockets then they are unreliable at best to be kind.

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