So, this is my opinion on the election.

[jobycom]

I'm voting for Clinton. If someone better comes along, and I hope they do, I'll change to them, but I won't start insulting Clinton. If Clinton wins the primary, I'll vote for her in the general. If she wins the general, I'll spend four to eight years pissed off that she's not more liberal, and thankful she's not Republican. It's gotten me through the last seven years; it will work for a while longer.

And maybe, just maybe, she'll surprise me for the better. I don't expect it. I know she's farther left than most here understand, but I don't think DC will allow anything to the left of Nixon to happen for a decade or more.

And if she loses the general... Well, I'd rather not think about that. Just imagine this country is a ball of yarn, and someone is holding the end of the yarn and tossing the ball off a cliff, and the people who get to rewind the yarn are the ones who believe that destroying the world with a nuclear war in the Middle East as soon as possible is the fulfillment of God's plan.

So I'm voting for Clinton, unless someone better comes along, and that's the only way I know to give the world a chance, whether I like it or not.

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. Of all the delcared Democratic candidates to date, she is hands down the best.

That may change when we see what other Democrats are in the running.

[arcane1]

2. We can also offset any worries about Clinton by electing the hell out of some liberals in congress!

And LOCAL!!!!

[jobycom]

3. You might be able to.

I'm in Texas. This state is like a Colbert Report story without the satire.

[MisterP]

4. yeah, we'll just get conventional war in the Middle East for secular domestic purposes

[jobycom]

5. I figure there's less chance with her than with most other candidates, but if you can find a better

option, I'll back them.

She was one of the ones who tried to push the Iraq War Resolution to the left, to put more impediments in Bush's way. As you remember, there was almost no chance to stop Bush from invading Iraq, but she, and a few others, worked to put restrictions and conditions on BushCo with the IWR. It wasn't much, but since Bush had been elected to invade Iraq, for all intents and purposes, there wasn't anything that was going to stop him. She tried, even if many people misunderstand her attempt. And really, according to the conditions of the IWR, Bush invaded against those conditions, anyway.

That war had upwards of 80% approval, which means a lot of people now opposing it, even here, supported it originally.

But yeah, from Reagan to Obama, at least, we've not been able to keep our government from murdering people in the Middle East. This is a very, very bloody nation.

[MisterP]

6. the first thing one does making despotic acts is to get them legalized: that in fact makes them

all the more dangerous

I mean, this is Mrs. "We came, we saw, he DIED!" not the author of some fantasy lefty IWR