Shouldn't Bush The Impaler be polling more than 17% nationwide and 14% in South Carolina?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html




http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html


He's the freaking grandson of a northeastern senator, a the son of a president, and the brother of another one, and he's polling at 17%.

That is embarrassing !!!


I know it's early but juggernaut my a$$ !!!

[1939]

1. Too many candidates at this time

a "juggernaut" for Bush (or Walker or Cruz) won't begin to form until Iowa and New Hampshire have "thinned the herd". People will then start coalescing around their favorite.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. If he's Bush!!! and they're not , wouldn't you expect him to be doing better on brand name alone?

Unless the Bush brand is damaged.

[stevenleser]

3. I keep telling folks, the GOP grass roots do not want him to be the nominee.

His statements on Immigration are almost as bad for them as someone who is anti-choice or anti-LGBT rights would be for us Democratic grass roots. It's a complete non-starter.

17% is a terrible place for a presumptive front-runner to start out before the attacks begin, particularly with the obvious lines of attack open to Jeb's opponents.

It's going to be someone from the most whack-job wing of the GOP this time and I have already said I think that it will be Cruz.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. I believe we can win 37 states against Cruz...

I would have to look at a map...

[stevenleser]

9. I think more than that. What worries me is that I don't think we know the real Cruz other than

the fact that he is smart enough and ruthless enough to throw his own party under the bus (the crazy filibuster, etc) in an effort to appear to be more Conservative than thou and set himself up as the most Conservative candidate for President, as I noted here:

I'm afraid that he is much smarter than many of us realize and that everything up until now has been a game to him with the goal of getting the power of the Presidency. We underestimate him at our peril.

The thing we would have in our favor if he is the nominee is that I think he thinks he is too smart for his own good and will make some mistakes out of hubris.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. Cruz or any R holds most of the states of the Old Conferederacy

That's ten or so states right there...

[stevenleser]

11. Against Hillary I am not sure. The Clintons are from Arkansas don't forget. Also...

like Barack, she is going to pull some voters that other candidates might not get and will increase turnout beyond what some candidates might get.

I think we're underestimating the appeal of a viable female candidate will be to women. I'm excited about it and I am not a woman!

[Yupster]

6. I agree

Republicans don't want another Bush.

His one chance is that he can raise enough money to just outlast all the others and hope they get disqualified one after another until he's the last option left standing. Then Republicans will take him holding their noses.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I was told that he was a juggernaut who was immensely popular with his base...

I was told here that he was a juggernaut who was immensely popular with his base and that our presumptive nominee wasn't.

[Yupster]

12. I don't think either side

would like a Bush or Clinton if there was another choice.

To the Repubs there is, and I don't think Bush has much chance.

To the Dems, there may not be a choice.

[Octafish]

5. Since when does a Bush win an election fair-and-square?

Prescott got appointed to the Senate when Connecticut's then-Senator died unexpectedly. Poppy and the Ayatollah winked about Israel and the planes filled with Hawk missile parts. Smirko probably can't spell Rehnquist, but he can do the math 5-4. Jebthro, seems to also to know who really can count:

“Stop! Please, a million at a time will do just fine.”

http://www.allgov.com/news/where-is-the-money-going/jeb-bush-asks-donors-to-limit-contributions-to-1-million-eachfor-now-150306?news=855870

Money is speech, per same 5-4 math.

[stevenleser]

7. This is the GOP nomination, not an election. Think about it. How bad would it be to fix the

nomination and piss off your own grass roots that you expect to go to the polls and vote for your party candidate a few months later.

Not going to happen.

[B2G]

13. I'm a little jealous that they get an actual primary. nt

[Renew Deal]

14. It's early in a primary with multiple big candidates

And he hasn't announced he's running yet (though we know he is).