National Enquirer: Hillary Clinton is a lesbian.

[sufrommich]

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-hillary-clinton-lesbian-lovers-named-secret-emails


I'm not going to quote the article,suffice to say that the article relies on "unnamed sources close to her" and manages to appeal to both Clinton haters and homophobic bigots. I don't know who the GOP's new Rove is,but the whispering campaign has turned into a sickening shout.

[NYC_SKP]

1. It's OK with me. I still won't support her for president. nt

[sufrommich]

3. Way to miss the point. nt

[justhanginon]

11. Yes, but yet another chance to

make his point about not voting for Hillary Clinton. Just in case anyone missed it the first 3000 times.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

15. +1. n/t

[LordGlenconner]

29. +1

The vanity is kind of fun to watch in a lot of ways.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

67. Yep

The Hillary haters like to hijack threads

[rock]

103. Yes , but his 3000 votes against are going to swamp my single vote for

Oh noes!!!

[11 Bravo]

13. If she gets the nomination, will you be taking your act to the Lounge during the GE?

[sharp_stick]

19. I'm shocked

shocked I tell you!

[razorman]

60. Yeah, no kidding. This ridiculous rumor has circulated for decades.

Along with, "She murdered Vince Foster" and "Webb Hubbell is Chelsea's biological father", among others. It will circulate for a day or two, and die down. Par for the course in politics.

[upaloopa]

54. Maybe we can keep a log of the number of times

you feel the need to tell us you won't support her.
How many times have you told us since she announced?

[MineralMan]

76. That's starting to be way redundant.

We know. You've told us frequently. I'm not sure how it's relevant to this thread, though.

I mean, you can keep repeating it until general election campaign time, of course. We already know, though, that you don't support Hillary Clinton's candidacy and won't vote for her if she is the nominee. We get it.

Your choice.

[CreekDog]

79. so you're going to stop posting against Hillary here if she gets the nomination?

[NYC_SKP]

81. If she gets the nomination, and I don't think she will, I will be her harshest critic.

But my criticism will be designed to encourage others to work within the system, the rules outside and inside this board, to pressure her to adopt more enlightened positions than her history has indicated she is willing to adopt absent such pressure.

Hey, BTW, I'm in the city tomorrow for a thing at CalAcademy in the park in case you want to get together.

I'm there a lot, including on opening day(s) back whenever that was and with a CBS crew and some students, we had the full inside out tour of the LEED platinum facility, inside out and all over the roof. I wish I could post my selfies w celebs but not here.

[CreekDog]

85. I'm sure it will go fine as long as you don't tell them your thoughts on pedestrians

expect it to go very badly if you say that kind of stuff to environmentalists.

[NYC_SKP]

89. I am an environmentalist and we feel that impeding vehicular flow produces more greenhouse gases.

We encourage good traffic flow, HOV lanes do this.

Every time a car has to stop, it wastes inertial energy and converts it into heat, it's wasteful when that happens.

Then you have a car at rest that needs to accelerate back up to speed, additional loses of energy and burning of fossil fuel.

That's just plain bad.

Controlled intersections work best, with traffic lights that alternate N-S with E-W and pedestrian traffic in a three-way light, rather than the pedestrians getting their light at the same time as the cars.

Don't you agree that might be safer and environmentally sound, let cars go when it's cars' turn, and stop all cars for pedestrians?

[CreekDog]

100. read the California Vehicle Code and learn:

VEHICLE CODE SECTION 21949-21971

21950.
(c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian within any
marked or unmarked crosswalk shall exercise all due care and shall
reduce the speed of the vehicle or take any other action relating to
the operation of the vehicle as necessary to safeguard the safety of
the pedestrian.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=veh&group=21001-22000&file=21949-21971

the law anticipates that a vehicle would slow down. any large street with multiple lanes or cross traffic is going to necessitate that vehicles slow for crossers because there are many streets where traffic is far too busy to have a gap large enough for a pedestrian to cross without vehicles slowing down or stopping to allow it.

[NYC_SKP]

105. It is a well known fact that, in this state, the pedestrian is assumed to have right of way anytime.

Your citation has nothing to do with what makes sense.

We know that stupid ass pedestrians, children, drunkards, cranksters, and escaped convicts might dash out at any time, and drivers are on notice to be on the lookout and slow and stop for these.

They also need to stop for boorish, self-important city fools who CHOOSE to step out in front of traffic even when the lights say "Don't Walk".

Everyone here in California knows this, CreekDog.

So, would you care to respond to whether or not it would be a good idea for cities to adopt controlled intersections as described in my earlier reply, in which N-S, E-W, and pedestrian traffic all have their turns, that none are permitted to move at the same time.

(not that drivers could plow over scofflaws, they still need to slow for pedestrians who cross against lights)

My plan is safest for busy intersections, we've been doing it in some cities for generations.

No right on red, and an all pedestrians may walk rotation in the signal light program.

[CreekDog]

107. I've always advocated for an all walk/pedestrian scramble signaling system, you argued against

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4268030

glad you're coming around on that one, though the rant above it against people walking in cities (when you call people "fools" and "stupid ass...&quot is rather off the rails, so to speak.

and all your bragging about never causing cars to even so much as slow down or brake is not possible in a large city and most higher density suburbs. to get across those streets does require cars to slow and stop where there are crosswalks but no signal lights.

[Sheepshank]

86. When/if Hillary gets the nomination I'll be thanking god for the Ignore Button.

Thanks for the heads up.

[samsingh]

2. who cares if she is? her sexuality is irrelevant.

[sufrommich]

5. This isn't about her sexuality, this is about

appealing to bigots through innuendo.

[jberryhill]

14. I think we can do without the bigot vote anyway

Seriously, who gives a shit.

As if there is someone in any reality who was thinking:

"Well, I was going to vote for Hillary, but now that I hear she's a lesbian the deal is off."

I mean, seriously, so fucking what if it is "appealing to bigots".

The bigot vote is already spoken for. God forbid we lose the bigot vote.

[still_one]

51. just like the "Obama is a Muslim", which thanks to right wing propaganda, 20% believe

[NYC_SKP]

9. I know, I don't care what sexual orientation my candidate has, I'm not going to sleep with them.

Give me a fighter for the 99%.

[samsingh]

10. exactly

[BlueJazz]

12. What NYC_SKP said.

[Ninga]

31. My observation is that the 99% need to vote. I do not have the wisdom to know what comes first,

a fighter for the 99% or that the 99% take on the belief that voting is in their best interest.

No matter the progression, there still needs to be progression. Be that a fighter for the 99% or that the 99% come to the realization

that they must invest skin in the game, meaning becoming voting patriots.

Someone has to start somewhere, is all that I am saying. The more that participate the more organic the process will become and

allow fighters to be recognized.

Until then. I am a Supreme Court voter and will vote for whomever the D is.

[NYC_SKP]

32. Correct Ninga. First, put up a fighter for the 99%. Then, get the 99% out to vote. Easy Peasey!

That's how we do.

[Ninga]

34. OK coach! I'm on your team. I dig easy peasey! Let's do it! Let's get it done!

[mylye2222]

47. LOL

This belongs to them only.

[upaloopa]

57. Just who did you contribute to? Or are you one

of those all talk and no action types?
By the way no body else is running.

[NYC_SKP]

62. I contributed to Senator Warren's campaign.

I live in California

[upaloopa]

97. She doesn't have a presidential campaign

I live in CA too. Did you contribute to the group trying to get Senator Warren to run?

[NYC_SKP]

98. I contributed to the Senator's senatorial campaign.

I have not yet contributed to the MoveOn effort to encourage her to run.

I contributed to an out-of-state campaign because I am taken by her passion and integrity.

And, to be honest, I wanted her in a position to be able to run for POTUS.

So far, so good.

This has been a tough financial year for me with the brain aneurism and three additional surgeries, lots of expense and lost productivity.

Two years ago, however, I'd have gladly donated a chunk to MoveOn or whichever effort there is.

[leftofcool]

4. News Flash for the Enquirer!

This news, if it were true, will only help Hillary.

[DURHAM D]

6. LOL. Welcome back to 1990. nt

[treestar]

52. THIS^^^^^

Republicans are so lacking in creativity. They always reach to the past.

[displacedtexan]

106. All Hillary roads lead to 1974 and her role in the Watergate investigation.

And no, she wasn't fired from the committee. From Snopes:

At that time, the Judiciary Committee comprised 37 members of the House of Representatives and was chaired by Representative Peter Rodino, Jr., of New Jersey. The Judiciary Committee was assisted by a permanent staff, on which attorney Jerry Zeifman served as Chief Counsel, and (for this occasion) by a separate Impeachment Inquiry staff assembled to determine whether President Nixon had committed impeachable offenses. That inquiry staff was headed by former U.S. Justice Department lawyer John Doar, and one of his hires was a 26-year-old Yale Law School graduate then known by her maiden name of Hillary Rodham (who a few years later would marry future Arkansas governor and U.S. president Bill Clinton).

A pair of articles published during Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency in 2008, one by Northstar Writers Group founder Dan Calabrese and one by Jerry Zeifman himself, asserted that Zeifman was Hillary's supervisor during the Watergate investigation and that he eventually fired her from the investigation for "unethical, dishonest" conduct. However, whatever Zeifman may have thought of Hillary and her work during the investigation, he was not her supervisor, neither he nor anyone else fired her from her position on the Impeachment Inquiry staff (Zeifman in fact didn't have the power to fire her, even had he wanted to do so), and his description of her conduct as "unethical" and "dishonest" is his personal, highly subjective characterization (and the "facts" on which he bases that characterization are ones that he has contradicted himself about on multiple occasions).
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp#cF62RViVZEf8FzpR.99

[justiceischeap]

7. This is not the first, nor will it probably be the last time

That she's been "outed".

This has been a long-standing bit of gossip about her.

[2naSalit]

30. Yup!

I heard it way back in the early 90s when my boss gave me a lecture on how she was a lesbian and only supported lesbians for Cabinet positions.

If that's all they've got to go on, let them flame out on their own.

[Iggo]

8. Congrats?

[SidDithers]

16. Watch for the anti-Hillary crowd at DU to pick this up and run with it...nt

Sid

[sufrommich]

18. I love the way some are saying "so what if it's true"

as if that is the point. It's meant to paint her as secretive and devious.

[Xithras]

24. Oh, I wouldn't worry about that too much.

Most of us who oppose her realized that she was secretive and untrustworthy LONG before the Enquirer pulled this stunt.

[sufrommich]

26. By way of her personal life?

I don't care what you think of her politics,but to dismiss this sort of shit flinging because you don't care for her politics is utter bullshit.

[Xithras]

28. It's the Enquirer

They fling shit at everyone. It's their raison d'etre. If you're getting worked up over one of their articles, you need to turn your sensitivity down a bit.

[Thinkingabout]

55. One of the things which is untrustworthy is information repeated over and over in talking points.

It is some of the same crap I read in the tabloids.

[fadedrose]

56. Pick what up?

That's been rumored for years and I don't care about whether she is or she isn't. Am more concerned with her relationships on Wall Street.


According to our platform, it's nobody's business. Only republicans will bring it up and lose votes because of it.

[Scootaloo]

101. Watch for DU conservatives to smear critics of Clinton with it ... nt

[cwydro]

17. Oh please. nt

[TexasProgresive]

20. I was waiting with bated breath for this to reemerge.

Makes me no difference, but I don't think she is-who knows-Bill Clinton, who cares-not me.

[RobinA]

21. So It Wasn't

his affair with Hillary that led Vince Foster to kill himself, it was finding out she was gay? These people need to make up their minds.

[sufrommich]

22. Right? nt

[Hekate]

71. No no no, get with the program, RobinA. Bill screwed around because his wife was a lesbian. Right?

It was her fault.

[Blue_Tires]

78. Nope, Bill screwed around because his wife is an emasculating, ball-breaking, man-hater!

And if she's elected, it will encourage every other woman to stomp on our crotches with their jackboots or stiletto heels as men everywhere become subjugated to the emerging New Order of Amazon dominance...

[leftofcool]

83. OMG! That is so funny.

[KamaAina]

23. Locking. Not LBN.

The trashy tabloid press has been throwing this around for years.

I never did understand how she was supposed to be having an affair with Vince Foster if she was a lesbian.

[seabeyond]

25. yes. i would not date a man. i went from virgin, slut, lesbian. we get there are those that like

to use womens sexuality against them. we do not care. our sexuality is not their weapon.

[arcane1]

27. What took them so long? I expected this shit to start no later than Monday.

They must be getting lazy out there.

[Depaysement]

33. Great!

Her percentage of the male vote just went up!

[tkmorris]

35. I think I'd like her more if it were true

[mother earth]

36. There's going to be a lot of old stuff dredged up, better develop thick skin. This is nothing new

to HRC, she knows full well that the smear campaign will be full on, as usual for any candidate in the big race. The enquirer is a known rag that prints all manner of trashy stories. It is a sad commentary on our political process, 2016 will be no exception.

[cwydro]

38. I don't believe any of this about Hillary.

But they were right about Edwards.

[mother earth]

48. Sometimes they do get real info, and at times like these, they are probably getting paid by the

opposition. Who can believe any of it, and why it would matter is beyond me, this kind of crap deserves NO attention, unless it is of the lawsuit variety.

[cwydro]

65. I agree.

Shouldn't be on DU really.

[RobinA]

94. Oh Please, No

Not Travelgate. I can't take that one again!

[Behind the Aegis]

37. Wait wut?!

Did I just go back in time? If so, note to self, don't worry about going to Oklahoma, you'll meet the most wonderful man in the world and marry him!

Back in our time, I think I have an Enquirer from that period with the same story. I used to use it in diversity presentations. I'll have to look.

[msanthrope]

39. I hear she was a thespian who matriculated at Wellesley. nt

[sufrommich]

40. lol. nt

[msanthrope]

43. Sounds pretty dirty, no? nt

[sufrommich]

45. I remember reading about that campaign tactic used

many many years ago. There have always been Karl Roves in American politics.

[COLGATE4]

50. Did you know that at Wellesley boys and girls were

forced to share the same curriculum? (I know, I know, Wellesley was only female)

[Scootaloo]

102. She masticates at the dinner table every night, too!

[TeeYiYi]

41. Good for her...

TYY

[okasha]

109. ....

[TeeYiYi]

111. ...

TYY

[VScott]

42. According to the National Enquirer

every celebrity is...

A) Gay

B) a lesbian

C) having an affair

D) any combination of A,B,C.

[Pathwalker]

49. They've also said the Obama's are divorcing because of

Obama's affair with Hillary. So many lies, so many dead trees....

[treestar]

53. LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Obama's affair with Hillary??????

[jberryhill]

80. She caught his eye when Biden was groping her one day

[Angel Martin]

61. According to the National Enquirer

every celebrity is...

A) Gay

B) a lesbian

C) having an affair

D) any combination of A,B,C.

E) has a terminal illness


next Enquirer story: "Hillary Clinton's sad last days"

[mylye2222]

44. Creating RW non scandaks with nothing but fear using.

As I distrust HRC... Spreading this is futile, childish and done to distract people on the isses.

[underahedgerow]

46. Wooo hoooo! 3.8% of the voters!

In the bag.....

[Politicalboi]

58. I think it's true

But so what. I think her and Bill had a deal long ago. Both very smart, and both wanted the same thing. If elected, I hope she comes out if it's true.

[liberal N proud]

59. If true, this is supposed to bother us how?

[kelly1mm]

63. So what if she is? Dertainly would make no difference in if I would vote for her. nt

[Agnosticsherbet]

64. What happens between consenting adults is none of my business.

Of course, this is the National Enquirer.

[geomon666]

66. ...

[Hekate]

68. Right on schedule. That charge is an oldie-but-goodie for the RW. Soon the "murders" will be back.

I swear, I keep telling people here that every single lie Hillary has ever been accused with will be cycling back during this campaign.

Young'uns need to know we have heard it all before and it is nothing new. Younger voters of any affiliation need to be told this so they won't be taken in.

[MannyGoldstein]

69. She was caught masticating in public

the other day, at Chipotle. In front of children!

It's rumored that she has a powerful need to masticate several times each day.

(Hey jury: don't believe the alerter, look the word up for yourself.)

[winter is coming]

70. Uh huh. And tonight, Fox News will undoubtedly be reporting that "some people say" she's a lesbian.

In a week, CNN will be wondering aloud whether it's fair game to speculate on a candidate's sex life, purportedly condemning the National Enquirer's story while repeating it, multiple times a day for three days.

[Hekate]

74. And that's how "news" is done in these latter days. nt

[jwirr]

72. If I see one of those in the grocery line I am going to take them out of the shelf and throw them

on the floor. Trash.

[McCamy Taylor]

73. Don't waste your breath. She already has the LGT vote.

[Corey_Baker08]

75. Why Is This Bullshit Posted On DU? WTF

Really were resulting to tabloids to trash Hillary?

[notadmblnd]

77. I don't agree, but so what if she is?

[spanone]

82. more like 'National Disgrace'

[Sheepshank]

87. so...explain n/t

[NYC_SKP]

91. !

There's a lot of that going around.

ProTip: Don't reply to replies on this board asking you to expound on a statement unless you are friends with them, it might result in a hide.

That's all.

[get the red out]

88. So?

First, I couldn't care less about someone's private life. Second, was there also a story about someone being impregnated with an alien baby? I'd buy the rag for one of those!

[cali]

92. that is a time worn wingnut shit accusation. Just as is the "Obama is gay"

crap. It's vile.

[Thor_MN]

95. And?

[AtomicKitten]

96. Ugh. Why'd you drag this fish wrap here?

[TeeYiYi]

112. No pun intended...

...amirite?...

TYY

[workinclasszero]

104. Sure and President Obama was born in Kenya

And is a secret Muslim and and aliens mated with Michael Jackson and are taking over the world with the help of the illuminati and and....black helicopters!

[bluedigger]

108. Once you lose the Enquirer's readership, you're sunk.

Nobody can win without that voter bloc. She should just withdraw now.

[hifiguy]

110. She sure is. And Elvis just gassed up my Rolls-Royce

at a place in Bloomington, Minnesota.

[graegoyle]

113. That's hot.

[AgingAmerican]

114. They dredged this back up from the 90s

Very predictable.