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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:29 AM Apr 2015

Ugh. The worse inequality gets, the more people agree with Republicans

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/opinion/has-obamacare-turned-voters-against-sharing-the-wealth.html?ref=politics&_r=0

The author of the paper, Matthew Luttig, a Ph.D. candidate in political science at the University of Minnesota, found that while “numerous political theorists suggest that rising inequality and the shift in the distribution of income to those at the top should lead to increasing support for liberal policies,” in practice, “rising inequality in the United States has largely promoted ideological conservatism.”

...

I asked two experts, Jacob Hacker, a political scientist at Yale, and Robert Frank, an economist at Cornell, if Luttig’s conclusions are consistent with their own research, and both said he is on target. Luttig’s conclusions run counter to the view of liberals like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, who is calling on her fellow Democrats to make tackling inequality a top priority. Heather McGhee, for example, the president of Demos (motto: “an equal say in our democracy and an equal chance in our economy”), argues that inequality should be “the defining issue of the American political debate this campaign cycle.”

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Even worse for Democrats, the Saez paper found that “information about inequality also makes respondents trust government less,” decreasing “by nearly twenty percent the share of respondents who ‘trust government’ most of the time:”


Hence, emphasizing the severity of a social or economic problem appears to undercut respondents’ willingness to trust the government to fix it — the existence of the problem could act as evidence of the government’s limited capacity to improve outcomes.


The findings of the Saez group are consistent with Luttig’s. Taken together, they suggest that even if Democrats win the presidency and the Senate in 2016, largely on the basis of favorable demographic trends, the party will confront serious hurdles if it attempts to deliver material support to working men and women and the very poor. Redistribution is in trouble, and that is likely to tie American politics in knots for many years to come.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/opinion/has-obamacare-turned-voters-against-sharing-the-wealth.html?ref=politics&_r=0

A very informative, if also depressing, read.
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Ugh. The worse inequality gets, the more people agree with Republicans (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2015 OP
Makes me think of this: corkhead Apr 2015 #1
This highlights yet again why we MUST address inequality NOW. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #2
more than address, we need to fix it. But we have to do it by not "redistributing" but geek tragedy Apr 2015 #3
We should call it REVERSING the redistribution from the middle class back to the middle class.. cascadiance Apr 2015 #7
“information about inequality also makes respondents trust government less” deutsey Apr 2015 #4
god almighty, people is stupid... dhill926 Apr 2015 #5
Here is what Democrats are afraid to say out loud: world wide wally Apr 2015 #6
Racism. moondust Apr 2015 #8

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. This highlights yet again why we MUST address inequality NOW.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:36 AM
Apr 2015
“rising inequality in the United States has largely promoted ideological conservatism.”


The more we ignore it, the more we empower ideological conservatives.
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
3. more than address, we need to fix it. But we have to do it by not "redistributing" but
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:38 AM
Apr 2015

rather by making sure that people get paid enough rather than having the government act as a conduit.

"Redistribution" isn't very popular, but increasing the minimum wage and requiring employers to provide benefits is.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
7. We should call it REVERSING the redistribution from the middle class back to the middle class..
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:09 PM
Apr 2015

... so that many people out there that are hurting more than they were earlier understand that this isn't about systematically "taking away from someone" their wealth, but RESTORING the wealth that was taken away from US for the last 20-30 years.

Then it will be hard for them to rationalize that we're taking away "their" money (the wealthy) when we define properly that "their" money is actually OUR money which they've redistributed/stolen from us for the last 20-30 years, and in a way that THEY DON'T NEED IT, unlike many others below their economic class that do need every dollar that they've earned.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
4. “information about inequality also makes respondents trust government less”
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

Well, who is out there making the case that government isn't always, as Reagan put it, the problem?

For decades, a lot of Democrats have joined Republicans in repeating the mantra "Government Bad...Government Bad...Government Bad" as they jump aboard the privatization bandwagon.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
6. Here is what Democrats are afraid to say out loud:
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
Apr 2015

The Federal Government is the only entity big enough to fight absolute control by corporations. And such are the trappings of fascism.

And Republicans know it.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
8. Racism.
Thu Apr 16, 2015, 12:27 PM
Apr 2015

I suspect a lot of white people reflexively believe Republicans when they demonize government simply because "He's one of us, Margaret, and we're good Christian folks. Don't listen to them DemocRATs and colored folk that just want our money." Voila: the Fox News phenomenon!

Republican demonization of government has been going on for decades as the supergreedy predators they serve don't want to pay taxes or have regulations cut into their profit maximization.

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