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still_one

(92,139 posts)
4. Thanks, but the link doesn't work. I suspect looking at the URL it wasn't what I asked. At least
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 10:07 PM
Apr 2015

one person was decent enough to give me a good link to understand what it is about, and what workers are up against

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
3. This was discussed on Democracy Now yesterday.
Fri Apr 17, 2015, 08:56 PM
Apr 2015

It has been discussed on Democracy Now many times.

Rep. Alan Grayson and Lori Wallach explained in detail

how this harms workers in the U.S.

http://www.democracynow.org/

At the top of the page click on daily shows.

Click on Thursday April 16th.

Scroll down.

The video title is "A Corporate Trojan Horse".

I hope that helps.

Have a great evening.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. I assume the secrecy was to stop the lobbyists from killing it from the get go.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 08:41 AM
Apr 2015

There will be 90 day comment period once the fast track is approved. If its so horrible then we the people can revolt.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
18. Exactly. The same reason Obama kept the Iran negotiations secret until there was something of
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:12 AM
Apr 2015

substance.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. No there is not
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 08:27 AM
Apr 2015

You are simply supposed to accept that it is bad! If you want proof, you are a corporatist!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. what do you think I've listed in this thread? Why yes, links to
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 08:43 AM
Apr 2015

places where you can find information and opinion from both sides- unlike your snark.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. There are lots.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 08:36 AM
Apr 2015

sorry, I'm not going to do the work for you. I've done it too often. EFF has lots of info about intellectual property rights stuff. Public CItizen has tons of stuff. Both oppose it, so it comes from that perspective. Same with WikiLeaks- I do have that link:

https://wikileaks.org/tpp-enviro/pressrelease.html

The White House Website and the USTR site have the opposite perspective.

The Congressional Research Service just released a report for Congress:

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42694.pdf

This is from the eminent economist Joseph Stiglitz:

Trade agreements are a subject that can cause the eyes to glaze over, but we should all be paying attention. Right now, there are trade proposals in the works that threaten to put most Americans on the wrong side of globalization.

The conflicting views about the agreements are actually tearing at the fabric of the Democratic Party, though you wouldn’t know it from President Obama’s rhetoric. In his State of the Union address, for example, he blandly referred to “new trade partnerships” that would “create more jobs.” Most immediately at issue is the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or TPP, which would bring together 12 countries along the Pacific Rim in what would be the largest free trade area in the world.

Negotiations for the TPP began in 2010, for the purpose, according to the United States Trade Representative, of increasing trade and investment, through lowering tariffs and other trade barriers among participating countries. But the TPP negotiations have been taking place in secret, forcing us to rely on leaked drafts to guess at the proposed provisions. At the same time, Congress introduced a bill this year that would grant the White House filibuster-proof fast-track authority, under which Congress simply approves or rejects whatever trade agreement is put before it, without revisions or amendments.

Controversy has erupted, and justifiably so. Based on the leaks — and the history of arrangements in past trade pacts — it is easy to infer the shape of the whole TPP, and it doesn’t look good. There is a real risk that it will benefit the wealthiest sliver of the American and global elite at the expense of everyone else. The fact that such a plan is under consideration at all is testament to how deeply inequality reverberates through our economic policies.

Much more:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/on-the-wrong-side-of-globalization/?_r=0

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. glad you found the links useful.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:07 AM
Apr 2015

Reading the leaked chapters is much more enlightening if you read commentary and analysis of them as well.

I don't think it's a good agreement. I think it fails some very basic tests. I've written about that in many other posts.

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