***HYSTERICAL***Michigan Mother Destroys Abstinence Only Sex Ed Class with Live Twitter Feed

[FourScore]

Fri Apr 17, 2015 at 06:06 PM PDT
Michigan Mother Destroys Abstinence Only Sex Ed Class with Live Twitter Feed
by tmservo433

Sometimes, I find something and think: the content speaks for itself.





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Sometimes, I think the best thing to do is not to editorialize and just let the content speak for itself.

Fri Apr 17, 2015 at 6:30 PM PT: You can read Alice Dreger's write up of this event here: http://www.thestranger.com/features/feature/2015/04/15/22062331/i-sat-in-on-my-sons-sex-ed-class-and-i-was-shocked-by-what-i-heard

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/18/1378523/-Michigan-Mother-Destroys-Abstinence-Only-Sex-Ed-Class-with-Live-Twitter-Feed

[FourScore]

1. Dropping like a stone.

I don't seem to know my DU audience like I used to.

This flew to the top of the recommend page on Dailykos.

[MisterP]

2. don't they just show childbirth videos anymore?

[undeterred]

4. Whatever happened to that film they showed us

on how to deliver a baby in a fallout shelter?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. I missed that one...

They just showed us "Caligula".

[PatrickforO]

22. I remember those!

[Warpy]

53. The "screaming baby" film was the best one

It's after my time but they showed it to us in L&D in nursing school to gales of laughter. It features a mother struggling with an infant who keeps screaming and will not shut up no matter what she does, something every mother in the room could easily relate to.

I found one that's close. Show this along with detailed explanations of how to keep yourself and your partner non pregnant and healthy and you'll raise the age of first intercourse immediately.

[peace13]

3. Things are pretty sad!

The misinformation in our schools is astounding!j

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

5. Such a great read. I just wish it was fiction.

[Hekate]

6. KnR. That is both awesome and awful.

[truebrit71]

7. Fabulous, and terrifying all at the same time....

What a bunch of bullshit....

[riderinthestorm]

8. Wow!!! Unbelievable!

[MissB]

9. Sex and bowling.

The tweets were very funny. She's a wise woman.

At my kids' school, they did a "sex and bowling" thing every year during their sex education unit. This was for the 7th/8th graders.

The kids could anonymously submit questions by putting them in a box (one for girls, one for boys). The teachers would read them and decide which they could answer (which was apparently most of them). The male teachers would take the boys and answer their submitted questions as a group and the female teachers would do the same for the girls (there's like 60 kids per grade so it works well) and there would be discussions that stemmed from the answers.

Then they'd get in the bus and all go bowling for the afternoon. Sex and bowling.

[F4lconF16]

50. See, I like that.

But I think they should be taught together, not separately. All of the best education programs I have seen so. They teach both genders to be comfortable with each other, and the best teach a wide range of genders to be comfortable with the human body in general. Separating the two only reinforces the divide between sexes, though it is better than the OP. It also reinforces gender binarism.

[Shrike47]

10. Poor kids. I hope their parents give them better information.

[SheilaT]

11. That's a whole lot worse than no sex ed at all.

I didn't have sex ed in school, and while I'm certainly not saying that was a better thing, it was vastly better than the incredible misinformation that was presented in this particular class.

[csziggy]

39. Our sex education was basically nothing at all

They told us girls not to freak out when we started menstruating and how to use sanitary pads. That was it. I knew more about sex from reading a book about breeding horses.

Abstinence education for me was watching my aunt pump out kids every time she could get pregnant. She had 6 live children and maybe ten pregnancies that I knew about. THAT convinced me to not have sex. Then I got into college and someone was distributing a feminist underground newsletter with information about all forms of birth control available then (1970).

Once I realize sex was possible without getting pregnant, I was all for it!

[scarletwoman]

13. Hilarious! That was fun to read, thank you!

My school days were long, long ago, before there was any such thing as "sex ed". We had "Health Class", and the girls and boys were taught in separate rooms.

[ismnotwasm]

14. Oh my god

This is making me laugh out loud --at the same time I'm like what the fuck is this shit? THAT'S ABSTINENCE ONLY SEX ED???? Are they crazy? It sounds like a Mars Hill church sermon--only sicker because it's a public school. Pitiful.

Good on her for tweeting it. Sounds like she's got a good kid too

[Yupster]

15. What a condescending jerk this lady is

How would she like it if someone sat in her work station and made sarcastic snarky comments aimed at her for an hour.

What a jerk.

I was a teacher for 10 years and luckily I didn't meet many parents like her.

[JanMichael]

46. it is okay to pillory ignorant asshats paid with public funding to create zombies.

I do not give a shit for religious ass wipes in public schools.

[alp227]

16. and an author too! latest book

Galileo's middle finger : heretics, activists, and the search for justice in science

[Arugula Latte]

20. Oh really? "a typical hysterical mom"

What crock.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. hey now, bucko

you spelled "hystarical" wrong!

[Arugula Latte]

35. You know what's funny? I saw the European Union avatar and

I assumed it was someone who wasn't a native English speaker, so I didn't want to be rude by making fun of the spelling. But I just clicked on the profile and turns out it's a dude from Indiana.

[PeaceNikki]

32. Enjoy your stay!

[Trillo]

33. No, she does not.

She's taking an active interest in her child's education, and helping all the rest of us to understand what is occurring in this class. She should be given much thanks and gratitude for showing us how abstinence-only based sex education is severely flawed.

[zappaman]

36. You must have been on your phone during spelling class.

Welcome to DU and enjoy your stay!

[SidDithers]

41. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[seabeyond]

48. and you sound like a typical low count misogynist troll. i mean. see how easy that is. nt

[leftieNanner]

18. Fabulous Post! Abstinence only sex ed does the opposite.

My two daughters had decent sex ed at school, and a whole lot of sex ed from me. I had an anatomy book and we talked about body parts using real names. My girls both delayed sexual activity until later than most kids do these days. Plus they discussed birth control with me (which was cool and weird at the same time).

Quick anecdote: Two of my friends have daughters. One was from a strict evangelical family and they told her not to have sex because Jesus didn't want her to. The other family told her not to have sex because they (her parents) didn't want her to. You know what? When those boys in high school were pressuring them for sex, neither Jesus nor Mom nor Dad were in the room (or car, whatever) so they acquiesced to the boy's advances. My girls knew that their sexuality was their own decision and their own responsibility. They had ownership of their bodies, so when a guy got all hot and bothered it was easy to say "no". They had already decided that they weren't ready and this wasn't the right guy and it was their choice.

It's not easy to sit at the kitchen table with your child and talk about intercourse, but it's so worth it. You can tell them that you probably know more than their friends do about the subject and that you are available and open to all questions.

[tblue37]

28. Funny thing--I never had any trouble at all discussing sex with my kids.

I don't understand why so many people find it awkward. My kids have always felt comfortable asking me about anything.

[leftieNanner]

57. Once we began to have the discussions

it wasn't difficult. My mother told me NOTHING about puberty, menstruation, intercourse, sexuality etc. I swore I wouldn't do that to my girls.

[notadmblnd]

54. I went into such detail with my son and sex education that he actually said

"Ok mom, that's enough." He's 22 and I'm still not a grandma.

[leftieNanner]

55. I got that too!

"That's enough Mom." With the palm of her hand towards my face. That was when I knew we were in good shape. No grandbabies here either. Daughters are 21 and 23.

[notadmblnd]

56. it's amazing how well our kids do when we're honest and open with them.

Good job raising your girls.

[barbtries]

19. love her,

love her son. wtf goes on in class these days.

[lovemydog]

21. I can't believe they're still teaching that just say no nonsense.

That is hilarious though.

One thing's fairly certain. Those kids are more likely to have sex at a younger age, get stds and early pregnancies, and have really warped ideas about sex and love. Go team!

It's like having an adult come in there and say 'Whatever you do kids, don't eat a banana!' You know it will cause increased banana consumption.

[treestar]

40. Exactly, telling them not to just tells a teen it is desirable

or exciting thing to do.

Though I can see it shown as an option, as reassurance to kids that don't want to at all that that's OK too. I sure wasn't ready and in the 70s there was pressure that you weren't cool at all if you didn't want to, weren't ready, and the demand came up way too soon in a relationship (still does as far as I'm concerned. But I know other people have a bigger appetite).

[hifiguy]

45. Whenever I see bullshit ike this

(from the alleged teacher, not from the smart and cool mom) I am reminded of a quote from Marlene Dietrich: "In America sex is an obsession. In most other countries it is a fact."

[BlancheSplanchnik]

23. damn, that was a good read!!!!

Wow.



Just wow.


Respect to this woman for being a grest Citizen Blogger!

[lexington filly]

24. Wow! Like a time machine back to 1960 and my mother's

voice is droning on about such things as girls are responsible for putting on the "brakes" because boys can't be responsible. And "nice" girls this and "good" girls that.....
Now it's fear terrorists! Fear immigrants! Fear homosexuals! And always remember to fear penises and vaginas before marriage!

[ohheckyeah]

25. She was a lot

nicer than I would have been - way funnier too.

[haikugal]

27. Kick!

This is a feeble sex Ed attempt....unbelievable! This woman is much more patient than I'd be. No wonder she said "fuck" 10 times... LOL

Truly disgusting!

Kick!!!

[tblue37]

29. My favorite was the line about scissors for aborting the paper babies. nt

[haikugal]

30. Yeah, that was great!

She's really funny and on point. Jesus freaks pushing their "values" on the young is NOT education!

[FourScore]

31. Mine too. n/t

[Trillo]

34. Thank goodness for the Internet.

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It sounds like abstinence-based sex education is only a little worse than what me and my classmates had back in the late 60s or early 70s.

That quote about 'if the girl says "no", that's the one you want'. OMG. Abstinence-based sex ed is training stalkers and future rapists?

This is a major travesty, religious teachings, even if religion isn't specifically mentioned, have no place in any public school. Public schools should be about teaching and learning known facts, and helping the kids to learn. They should not be teaching 2000 year old superstitions and doing intentional harm which later needs unlearning.

Homosexuality needs to be discussed non-judgmentally, not given a passing and insulting mention and move on as if heterosexuality is the only orientation worth discussing. If one partner is homosexual, and the other heterosexual, you are not sexually compatible. Same goes with a sexual and an asexual. These kinds of potential mis-matches fail the 'pursuit of happiness' goal.

Sexual education should be about more than potential disease and birth control, and it should not be about fear and contempt.

If discussion of abstinence occurs, it should only be in the context of other information and approaches.

[LadyHawkAZ]

37. Parenting done right. K&R

[Eleanors38]

38. Phew! Redolent with W.O.D. crap. Much the same approach & as likely to fail.nm

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. ....sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love."

"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love." - Butch Hancock

[Scurrilous]

43. What a great Mom.

[hifiguy]

44. Good for her.

This is what passes for "education" in this country? We're doomed. No doubt about it.

[niyad]

47. k and r

[malthaussen]

49. Public school

This is the kind of crap you'd expect in a religious school. Your tax dollars at work, people.

-- Mal

[RKP5637]

51. K&R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[BlueJazz]

52. An Absolute Riot! Thanks for posting!

[DirkGently]

58. Excellent. n/t.