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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am voting for Hillary!
I am strongly endorsing Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic Presidential Nominee for 2016 and the 45th President of the United States of America.
As a strong supporter of President Barack Obama (and his One-Millionth Campaign Contributor), I know that the work of keeping America on the right path is far from over. Hillary has proven herself to not just be a great First Lady and capable Senator, but also a talented Secretary of State.
Hillary did not have to humble herself and take on that challenge. she could have gone home to a nice quiet life and enjoyed the rest of her days. However, Hillary chose not to do so instead continued to fight for democracy and human rights around the world.
I strongly encourage you to not just vote for Hillary in the primary and the general, but to take the 2016 election as a second watershed moment in the history of our country and to encourage your friends and family to participate in our democracy.
No Vote No Grumble. It's time: LEAN IN!
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)I no longer will hold my nose and vote for "the lesser of two evils". Bernie Sanders embodies everything I believe in, and I will gladly write his name in if it comes to that. He has earned my support and my vote.
NET
(61 posts)The republicans thank you
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)NET
(61 posts)It's a fact
You could say you guys need new facts but that really wouldn't work in this case.
As you said you would do a write in before voting for Hillary
The republicans thank you for this...
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Rolando
(88 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)people vote for Hillary. I'm sorry. That just isn't the way our political system works. We are free to vote for whomever we want. If you want to write in Bernie Sanders backwards go ahead. I unlike some Hillary supporters will not insult you or intimidate you.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)would be casting our votes for someone who many of us think is a DINO. Perhaps it is the Republicans who will thank you for your vote.
840high
(17,196 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Had enough of the corporatists to last me ten lifetimes.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)I like you and most of her supporters here, ellisonz, but I cannot support this candidate. I feel we need someone far more courageous and passionate about economic equity.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Hillary has made mistakes. She has learned from them. A lot of people were wrong on Iraq (John Kerry for example). If Warren was running, I would give her strong consideration. But she's not and there's far too much at stake.
You don't think Obama rubbed off on Hillary on the economic equity issues?
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Maybe it has rubbed off and she's keeping her best thoughts for later battle.
But for now I'm advocating for a good primary.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)It often leads to change!
FIRED UP, READY TO GO!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Decided is magic.
IWR? TPP? fiddlesticks! ....We'll see how much "forgiveness" she gets if she comes out in favor of the TMT.
Amirite?
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Talk about changing the topic!
I cannot support HRC.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)RKP5637
(67,088 posts)president is ever perfect. The republican lineup is dreadful. I'll take HRC any day to one of those misfits in the WH.
Rolando
(88 posts)Let's all vote for somebody who supports education.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)degrees occasionally make mistakes. Oh, BTW, thank you for your snarky remark! Yes, IGNORE is a nice feature on DU! Just for your edification, whomever is correct. I suggest you take a grammar course. Here is some help for you! http://www.grammarbook.com/grammar/whoever.asp
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Touche!
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I am hypersensitive about my grammar now.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I hope and pray she lives to be one hundred but if she wins and is elected and re-elected she will be spending a large part of the rest of her life running for president and being president. That's a huge sacrifice for us.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Yep, that's a corporate candidate's ad, all right.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Not a policy memo!
paleotn
(17,884 posts)........................................................................
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)So what?
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Policy without politics is just so much talk. Believe me, I'm a month away from finishing a graduate program in public policy. If you can't win the battles you need to implement your policy you are just blowing smoke.
I want results! I don't see anybody better positioned to get them
paleotn
(17,884 posts)...not to mention the boys at Goldman. She has my vote, but I'm under no illusions we're electing anyone remotely resembling a liberal Democrat.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Surprised it didn't go 0-7
Oh look. Vapid, a glossy picture, and zero mention of a policy agenda.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6528572
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Good gawd. This is Democratic Underground, what's up with the constant insults? Disagree? Fine. Leave the nasty commentary elsewhere. So sick of the gratuitous attacks.
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Par for the course here...
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)Someone alerted on this?! What the hell is going on here?
Autumn
(44,982 posts)4139
(1,893 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ellisonz
(27,711 posts)...I have forgiven Hillary and she has earned my support. I think of the tens of millions of young women in this country who will be inspired by her election.
Good to message again!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)This!
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... than a Republican or a Democratic corporatist candidate like Clinton...
Read more on what kind of mind set someone like Erwin Chemerinsky would bring to the bench if he were put on the court. We NEED more like him to balance out the court against the likes of Roberts and Scalia...
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-if-corporations-cannot-vote-should-they-have-right-spend-money-elections
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According to UC Irvine Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky, the nations leading Constitutional Law expert, Previously the Supreme Court upheld the ability of the government to restrict corporate expenditures in political campaigns. Now it appears there are five votes on the Court Chief Justice Roberts, Justice Scalia, Justice Kennedy, Justice Thomas, and Justice Alito who want to overrule those precedents.
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ellisonz
(27,711 posts)Warren is not running.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/13/elizabeth-warren-president_n_6464192.html
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)We NEED a populist to put in place decent supreme court justices to reverse things like Citizen's United. Not Republicans or corporate Democrats!
"Warren is not running!" is not a relevant topic to this question.
And you don't have a godlike omniscient knowledge to KNOW that Sanders won't win either. You are just echoing the corporate media's mantra on this to elect someone to represent the corporate interests over the people's interests.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Time is running out for you to find and support this magical candidate!
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Bernie, if he runs, WILL be a Democrat then! Whether he is now or not is NOT relevant. And I would argue that if you are arguing the merits of what party he is a member of, he has more traditional Democratic values representing the average American citizen than either Clinton or Obama do.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)He's going to be a true DINO.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)And cry that so many Democrats today are confused about what traditional Democratic Party values really are!
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)The way the system is rigged, this is the way he has to run to not do that. He's smart and doesn't want a Republican to win any more than many of the rest of us Democrats want. Which is a lot more than I can say for many other REAL DINOS who are Republicans calling themselves Democrats that don't really care too much if a Republican wins or if a Republicrat wins and implements Republican policies.
And if you are saying Bernie is no different than them and would put in place Republican policies, then you really need to be laughed off the stage!
Tea party people understood this variable too, which is why they registered as Republicans even if they wanted to actually be a separate political party. They knew they couldn't get elected with the current rigged system if they did that. Are Republicans calling Tea Partiers RINOS?
Not at all what I am saying, I've actually had the pleasure to meet him several times and vote for him.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)And he has always caucused with the Dems. He has said he will not run as a spoiler, but as a Democrat. What the naysayers fail to acknowledge is that Bernie embodies more traditional Democratic values and tenants than many who claim to be Democrats.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Do you disagree with that?
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)That is before the party moved to the right.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Let's just *guess* Carter?
What makes you think that they will go back to them? Why haven't we all become independents?
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)to embrace Carter's ideals.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Carter was President how many decades ago? What are people waiting for? How are you still supporting a party that has reflected the views (I think) you'd support for ~40 ish years?
This isn't an attack, it's not meant to be if it comes across like one.
MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)How many years ago was FDR in office, yet he is still mentioned as an icon, as are JFK and to some extent LBJ. The tenure of our finest presidents has no expiration date. Yes, it is an attack and you are cloaking it in discourse. Knock yourself out. I'm going out to dinner with some folks to determine how we can bring more progressive candidates into local politics. Have a great evening.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... that has exploded over the years since both Republicans and corporatized Democrats have embraced the corporate serving free trade deals that have totally screwed our government up. Just because it has been a long time since we've had a Democrat with real Democratic values to bring back the times when our country was strong under those values doesn't mean that they are "meaningless" and "outdated" any more.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)It never gets old.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)NT
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)There are a lot of lists.
I should know, I'm on a bunch of em.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)The person wants Hillary to win the primary. Trying to convince others just like the other primary contenders and their supporters can.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 18, 2015, 05:56 PM - Edit history (1)
but have no issue with anyone supporting her.
Good luck to her.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)FarPoint
(12,288 posts)I've been respectful and supportive of President Obama.....let's see the same behavior be returned to the Hillary Team.
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)THAT automatic disqualifies Hillary Clinton.
I will vote for the Dem nominee in the general election, whoever it is.
But I hope it's not Hillary.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)I'm not voting for Hillary because...or Hillary sucks because, or I hate Hillary because, or Hillary is just like a republican because, or Hillary supporters are _____fill in the negative comment threads on DU....and yet whenever someone wants to say something nice about Hillary or show their support people break their fucking ankles to jump on the bandwagon to throw insults at not only the poster but Hillary. Kinda of reminds me of bullies....waiting for their next target. God forbid someone have a nice thread...nope, it must be pissed and shit all over.
And before the typical posters come along and complain about me trying to silence their opinion, oh no, that's not at all what I'm doing...I'm just giving my opinion about YOU. Don't like it? Lump it.
this message is brought to you from non committed voter.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)It's good to have idealism, but it's self-defeating to through practicality under the bus for it.
I've had it with the nastiness too and will be making avid use of the "Ignore" function this election.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Hillary should be president right now, if not for the inept handicapping by our party in 2008. The party definitely would be in better shape overall. Obama has lost so much support among white working class men that it largely offsets the Hispanic shift. Not all of it, but at least 5-6 years worth. Consequently the GOP is in far better shape in presidential terms than it had right to be, or any legit hopes to be. No guarantee we can win back those white males, not in any meaningful percentage.
Our party started making pathetic strategic choices a full decade ago, when we initiated the brilliant plan to cleanse the party by pushing aside moderates. I warned Chris Bowers about this numerous times on MyDD. Bowers, like so many others, is an idealist but a truly inept handicapper. He had no clue how his plan would apply down the road and to balanced terrain. Bowers was emboldened during a period in which Republicans were unusually weak, with Bush at sustained low approval rating via Iraq and Katrina. Consequently it seemed cute to push aside moderates and play from the outer crust. Meanwhile, the devastating bottom line had not threatened to change, with the nation 32% self-identifying as conservatives to only 21% as liberals. It was a minor miracle that we held the House for so long, given those fundamentals. One district after another will not threaten to elect a liberal. I warned Bowers that only moderates and complacency were holding up our House of cards. If both sides started to actually get involved and dictate nominees while funding more races, it could only work in the GOP's favor, and by massive number. I wrote that the default would be 240-260 Republican seats and 55-60 senators, if his scheme were fully put in place and enough time to find a balanced landscape and not one severely favoring Democrats.
Unfortunately, here we are. Now the only chance at a Democratic House is if a Republican is president and uncommonly unpopular for a lengthy stretch. The odds against are overwhelming.
Sorry for the lengthy rant. I don't post here much anymore. Mostly I'm annoyed at how we threw away such a favorable opportunity with so many dense choices. Our bench, for one thing, is a joke, since we pay mostly lip service to governorships. It's truly hysterical to watch the anti-Hillary crowd reach for so many no-chance options, given that non-existent bench. I'm convinced they would settle for a political version of Sidd Finch if the liberal tag seemed undeniably proper in the write up.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)I also thought Obama was a better candidate.
White working class men trend Republican. We aren't going to get their votes by campaigning. We need to mobilize women, minorities, and young people. If Democrats can get those three groups to vote we will win and win and win. Getting that done starts with being very clear that there are profound differences between the two parties. We need to end the cynicism (my DU username used to be cynicalSOB1 too lol).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)I agree with him in part and disagree with him in part...Where I agree with him is that our party should cast as wide as net as possible when recruiting candidates. Where I disagree with him is what caused the hemorrhaging of working class white male voters...We have been losing them for a long time. I don't think we can appease them without surrendering who we are.
Cha
(296,853 posts)bitter shit.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)Cha
(296,853 posts)Thank you!
Cerridwen
(13,252 posts)<snip>
As the nation boiled over Vietnam, civil rights and the slayings of two charismatic leaders, Ms. Rodham was completing a sweeping intellectual, political and stylistic shift. She came to Wellesley as an 18-year-old Republican, a copy of Barry Goldwaters right-wing treatise, The Conscience of a Conservative, on the shelf of her freshman dorm room. She would leave as an antiwar Democrat whose public rebuke of a Republican senator in a graduation speech won her notice in Life magazine as a voice for her generation.
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She attended both the Republican National Convention in Miami (bunking at the Fontainebleu Hotel, ordering room service for the first time cereal and a daintily wrapped peach) and the Democratic donnybrook in Chicago (smelling tear gas at Grant Park, watching a toilet fly out the window of the Hilton hotel).
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When Dr. King was killed on the balcony of a Memphis motel on April 4, 1968, Ms. Rodham was devastated. I cant take it anymore, she screamed after learning the news, her friends recalled. Crying, Ms. Rodham stormed into her dormitory room and hurled her book bag against the wall. Later, she made a telephone call to a close friend, Karen Williamson, the head of the black student organization on campus, to offer sympathy.
Ms. Rodham, who met Dr. King after a speech in Chicago in 1962, had admired his methodical approach to social change, favoring it over what she considered the excessively combative methods of groups like the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, or S.N.C.C., pronounced snick.
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Occupation before Marriage:
As a young woman, Hillary Rodham worked as a babysitter both after school and during her vacation breaks, sometimes watching the children of migrant Mexicans brought to the Chicago area for itinerant work. She applied to NASA and was stunned when she was told that girls were not accepted for the astronaut program. Although she was active in young Republican groups and campaigned for Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater in 1964, she was inspired to work in some form of public service after hearing a speech in Chicago by Reverend Martin Luther King. She worked at various jobs during her summers as a college student, once in a canning factory in Alaska, in 1969. In 1970, she secured a grant and first went to work for the Children's Defense Fund. The following summer, she first came to Washington, D.C. working on Senator Walter Mondale's (Minnesota Democrat) subcommittee on migrant workers, researching migrant problems in housing, sanitation, health and education. In the summer of 1972, she worked in the western states for the Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern's campaign. During her second year in law school, Hillary Clinton volunteered at Yale's Child Study Center, learning about new research on early childhood brain development, as well as New Haven Hospital, where she took on cases of child abuse and the city Legal Services, providing free legal service to the poor. Upon graduation from law school, she served as staff attorney for the Childrens Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In the spring of 1974, she returned to Washington as a member of the presidential impeachment inquiry staff advising the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives during the Watergate Scandal. After the Nixon resignation in August of 1974, she became a faculty member of the University of Arkansas Law School, located in Fayetteville, where her Yale Law School classmate and boyfriend Bill Clinton was teaching as well.
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Presidential Campaign and Inauguration:
During the 1992 Democratic primaries, several incidents occurred which proved to be the primary basis for much of the controversy and criticism that would be leveled at Hillary Clinton as First Lady. Before the New York primary, former California Governor Jerry Brown challenged Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton with suggestions that Hillary Clinton's work as an attorney involved state funds was unethical, hinting in general terms that she had somehow profited from her husband's position. Clinton himself remarked at the time that his wife would be a full partner if he became President, terming it a "two for one" deal. Finally, in response to some of these questions, Hillary Clinton sharply retorted to a journalist's question at a public appearance that was being covered by broadcast media that the only way a working attorney who happened to also be the governor's wife could have avoided any controversy would have been if she had "stayed home and baked cookies." The remark, frequently replayed on television as a single clip from her more explicit response, sparked public debate as to whether she was intending to demean the role of stay-at-home mother. It was further fueled by Republican party supporters who sought to claim that Hillary Clinton was not in line with "family values" a phrase that was often used in the campaign of 1992. At the Republican National Convention, several speakers, including conservative columnist Pat Buchanan and Vice Presidential wife Marilyn Quayle either mentioned Hillary Clinton by name or made allusions to her as an example of what their party was running against. In a lighter tone, Good Housekeeping magazine sponsored a cookie contest asking readers to vote for their choice of recipes used by the wives of the two presidential candidates. During the 1996 campaign, Hillary Clinton addressed the Democratic convention, underlining some of the Administration's policy gains and aspirations in children's and women's issues. At the 1993 Inauguration, the Clintons created a new precedent by having a president-elect's child, their daughter Chelsea, join at the podium at the moment of the oath-of-office administration.
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Although she assumed a less open political role after the failure of the health care reform plan, the efforts on behalf of which she focused were fully public. She cited the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997 as the achievement she initiated and shepherded that provide her with the greatest satisfaction. Beginning with an article she wrote on orphaned children in 1995, through a series of public events on the issue, policy meetings with Health and Human Service officials, private foundation leaders, the drafting of policy recommendations, and eventually lobbying with legislators led to its passage. The First Lady led a second effort, the Foster Care Independence bill, to help older, unadopted children transition to adulthood. She also hosted numerous White House conferences that related to children's health, including early childhood development (1997) and school violence (1999). She lent her support to programs ranging from "Prescription for Reading," in which pediatricians provided free books for new mothers to read to their infants as their brains were rapidly developing, to nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses. She also supported an annual drive to encourage older women to seek a mammography to prevent breast cancer, coverage of the cost being provided by Medicare.
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SECRETARY OF STATE
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Secretary Clinton has used the venue of an open town-hall type forum to deliver addresses on policy and also take questions from the press and public. She gave almost one dozen of these in just her first two years as Secretary of State in Washington, D.C. She also conducted the town-hall interviews around the world, giving a sense of the breadth of her travels: Manama, Bahrain, Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, Astana, Kazakhstan, Melbourne, Australia, Christchurch, New Zealand, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Phnom Penh, Cambodia, Pristina, Kosovo, Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Islamabad, Pakistan (twice), Tbilisi, Georgia, Kyiv, Ukraine, Sao Paulo, Brazil, Doha, Qatar, Manila, Philippines, Lahore, Pakistan, Moscow, Russia, Abuja, Nigeria, Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Nairobi, Kenya, Bangkok, Thailand, New Delhi, India, Mumbai, India, Baghdad, Iraq, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, Monterrey, Mexico, Brussels, Belgium, Seoul, South Korea, and Tokyo, Japan.
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Obama and Clinton have instead led the least discordant national-security team in decades, despite enormous challenges on almost every front. They share a vision of diplomacy that is high-minded in its support for democratic rights (in and elsewhere) but hardheaded when those values run up against American security interests (Egypt and Bahrain) or other limits of American power (Syria). They have handled crises with neither rancor nor, for the most part, public leaks intended to shape their private debates. Clinton set the tone from the start, enforcing respect for the man who bested her on the campaign trail. Early on, when there were people around complaining about the Obama folks, she wouldnt brook it at all, Andrew J. Shapiro, Clintons former Senate aide and now an assistant secretary of state, told me. The message was delivered quite clearly. We work for the president, he recalled her saying.
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A truth often overlooked in the Beltway obsession with assigning blame and credit is that in any administration, the president ultimately determines foreign policy. This was true even under George W. Bush, despite Dick Cheneys best efforts to create a separate foreign-policy apparatus inside the Office of the Vice President. The job of the secretary of state is to help shape and then carry out the presidents policies, something her aides emphasize repeatedly.
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It was Obama, not Clinton, who led the country into the war, though it was left to Clinton and Susan Rice to win enough votes at the United Nations Security Council and to persuade allies like Britain and France that a no-fly zone meant more than a limited intervention.
Clintons message to them was blunt. The intervention they favored meant the use of overwhelming force at the outset; it meant killing people on the ground. By Saturday, the United States and NATO struck, even as Clinton returned from her second trip to Paris. With determination and abundant miles in the air, she forged an unwieldy diplomatic and military alliance, at once cajoling and reassuring leaders as disparate as President Nicolas Sarkozy of France and Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabr al-Thani, prime minister and foreign minister of Qatar. And she held it together through the next seven months, even as officials in the White House grumbled that the conflict was grinding on far longer than anyone had expected.
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Each linked article has far more information than I am able to show with only 4 paragraphs.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)If she is the nominee, then I will fully support her. Those who don't are just enablers of the republican party. I think some of them actually are republicans.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)It's what you will be.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)You can call me a Republican supporter all you want. I don't care. I will still vote for Bernie Sanders.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Unless someone else gets the nomination which I don't see happening.
I'll back her a million %! It is vital that Democrat's keep the white house.
Go Hillary!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I know others have been noted but I stand with Hillary, some of the others do not comfort me on their national security votes. We also need a president with foreign experience, she has that experience. She is smart and has the courage to make the decisions a president needs to make.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)oy .
vankuria
(904 posts)If she's the nominee, she may not be the perfect choice but the White House must stay in the hands of Democrats. Letting Jeb, Rand or whoever else they put up take control of this country would be a tragedy of epic proportions!
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)I expect she'll win the primary, but I expect Bernie to run as a Dem and I will vote for him.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Doo dah.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But that's because, of the announced primary challengers, she is (at this point) by far the strongest. That could change, however ... with a new, a few new, contender(s).
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Challenge her simply to draw out her alliance with Corporate America, Wall Street etc. On the campaign trail she'll talk the populist talk. They all do. Rick Perry recently was out there talking it up about mom and pop and how Corporate America has a strangle hold on the middle class. Makes me want to puke. Obama did the same. But now he wants to fast track the TPP.
Oh hell yeah, they'll say anything to get your vote. Once in power we know who pulls the strings in this country. The Pentagon, Wall Street, Corporate America .. not to mention the NRA and the Christian Right.
earthside
(6,960 posts)Nope.
No Vote for Hill ... I'm Grumbling about her candidacy.
It's time: 'No Time for Oligarchy!'
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)Or is this the usual pledgey thingy.