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Archae

(46,322 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 04:33 PM Apr 2015

My "WTF?" of the day, chiropractor who does exorcisms and trades sex for treatment division...



Bad enough he's a quack to begin with...

Iowa Chiropractor's License Suspended After Performing Exorcisms On Patients

April 17, 2015

The license of an Iowa chiropractor has been suspended for "engaging in sexual contact with several patients." The board said Charles Manuel, of Lamoni, engaged in unethical contact, which included performing exorcisms as part of his treatment for patients.

KCCI reports:

According to documents, Manuel "bartered sex for services with some of these patients" and "performed exorcisms as part of his chiropractic treatment of patients."

Manuel voluntarily surrendered his chiropractic license. He is not allowed to seek reinstatement for at least 10 years.

People in Lamoni, population 2,300, said they were shocked to hear the news.

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/04/iowa-chiropractors-license-suspended-after
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alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
1. I would never let one of those woo wackadoodles touch me
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 04:38 PM
Apr 2015

People need to go back in pain twice a month for life once one of those fuckers touch them.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
6. Better not go to one of those wackdoodle surgeons then.
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 09:41 PM
Apr 2015

You are more likely to have surgery if you do. Those fuckers do way too much surgery and don't know how to fix an injured back.

"Approximately 42.7% of workers who first saw a surgeon had surgery, in contrast to only 1.5% of those who saw a chiropractor."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Spine%202013;%2038(11):%20953-964

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. Probably people who went straight to a surgeon had severe problems?
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:43 PM
Apr 2015

I know a guy who had a back problem last year. He went straight to a real doctor, who scheduled emergency surgery. A tumor was on his spine and he was weeks away from paralysis. If he'd dinked around with Chiropractic first he'd be wheelchair bound, shitting in a bag and impotent. Surgery meant he was as good as new in weeks.

Real medicine for real problems. Don't fuck around with quacks, kids.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
9. Nope.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 12:42 AM
Apr 2015

"Even after controlling for injury severity and other measures, workers with an initial visit for the injury to a surgeon had almost nine times the odds of receiving lumbar spine surgery compared to those seeing primary care providers, whereas workers whose first visit was to a chiropractor had significantly lower odds of surgery (adjusted OR 0.22, 95% CI=0.10–0.50)."

And you are assuming that a chiropractor would not have sent the person out for the surgery after finding the abnormal signs of the presence of a tumor.That is a bad assumption to make.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
10. How often does a chiro do an MRI?
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 01:06 AM
Apr 2015

Even assuming competence and a willingness to send a patient to a real doctor- and these are dangerous assumptions with chiros- the additional layer of referrals and delays would have endangered him.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
11. There need be no delay. Referral to an MRI is usually as automatic as a phone call.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:38 PM
Apr 2015

Referrals are routine and timely.

MRI centers are a dime a dozen nowadays and are begging for chiropractor's business.

Chiropractors can be radiologists and assist the medical radiologists in interpreting the information needed by a chiropractor.

Here is a MedPage report on chiropractic and chiropractic radiologists you may benefit from.

http://www.radiologytoday.net/archive/rt0810p20.shtml

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
12. Every chiropractic office I've ever seen has an x ray machine from the lower pleistocine.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:42 PM
Apr 2015

And again, you're assuming that a quack who doesn't believe in real medicine is going to recognize cancer and refer a patient to a real doctor. That's a dangerous assumption.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
13. I'm not making any assumptions. Just some facts ma'am.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:27 PM
Apr 2015

CONCLUSIONS:
Small differences with little clinical relevance were found. All the professional groups could adequately detect contraindications to chiropractic treatment on radiographs. For this indication, there is no reason to restrict interpretation of radiographs to medical radiologists. Good professional relationships between the professions are recommended to facilitate interprofessional consultation in case of doubt by the chiropractors."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12221360

PS: "Every chiropractic office I've ever seen..." - For someone so critical of chiropractors how do you happen to have been in so many chiropractic offices to have seen the pleistocene x-ray machines?

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
4. That was Kama Aina. Amazing what he is up to. Unless, of course, if El Supremo
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 05:57 PM
Apr 2015

Hijacked his account.

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