Bernie Sanders did well In enemy territory

[Robbins]

He handled wallace well.He tried to make it all about Hillary.Bernie would have none of it.MSM can't push him around.

He is totally right despite wallace trying to get him to sound like radical.

And i agree withe everything he said on issues.

[ms liberty]

1. K&R...he's a good debater...n/t

[madokie]

2. Senator is a truth teller

He speaks from his heart and his heart is full of honesty. Oh how I wish he would run and win the Presidency. He has no qualms in calling out the anti Americans in the congress.
There is no other like Bernie Sanders. Love him like he was my brother, hell he is my Brother, he is my Father, He is my Son. He simply is family to all of us good O American People. You know the people who play by the rules who happily pay our taxes, who cares about our fellow humans whether they be black, brown, white or any combination thereof.

[MissDeeds]

7. +1000

Well said, madokie.

[G_j]

3. every minute of air time Sanders is given

is a flash of truth.

[Octafish]

8. Guy's a regular menace to the status quo.

As a socialist, especially the "status" parts.

[tblue37]

17. As more Americans hear him, he will teach them not to reflexively

recoil at the word "socialist." The younger voters already have a more positive response to the idea of socialism, but unfortunately, olders voters, who are much more likely to vote, have been intensively conditioned by propaganda to associate socialism with the Soviet Union and to respond to the very word with fear and revulsion.

[Octafish]

19. Same folks made ''Liberal'' into a dirty word.

When Did "Liberal" Become a Dirty Word?

November 23, 2002
By F. Johnson

EXCERPT...

For example, in my view it is incorrect and irrational to label leftist anarchists and militants (for any cause) as "liberals." True liberalism tolerates all viewpoints. True liberalism tries to understand all viewpoints. Liberals do not threaten and/or maim people of differing views. Liberals do not bomb abortion clinics. Liberals do not shoot abortion doctors. Liberals do not send Anthrax threats to abortion clinic doctors and their staffs. Liberals do not blow up mosques, synagogues, churches, or Federal Buildings. Liberals do not kill Sikhs because they look like Afghan terrorists. Liberals do not mail anthrax to liberal U.S. Senators.

Quite the contrary. Progressive liberals have pressed for most of the accepted social advances we enjoy in modern America today including the 40-hour week, Child Labor laws, Minimum Wage laws, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Civil Rights legislation, Worker Safety laws, Antitrust legislation, Clean Water laws, Food & Drug laws - you name it. Meanwhile, conservatives and business lobbies have historically fought all of these programs at their inception as too costly (read "higher taxes&quot or unnecessary. In recent decades, in fact, money has talked louder than voters and liberals have lost on more issues than they won. Now conservative business lobbies are fighting increased spending for prescription drugs for seniors, a rise in the minimum wage - anything that might cost money or diminish profits.

Now a "new patriotism" is afoot. Political debate on important issues is drying up leaving the microphones to self-styled "new patriots" - Rush Limbaugh, Cal Thomas, Don Imus, and many, many "hate-talk" radio hosts. Liberals are not getting equal time because of the popular misconception (purveyed by hate talk radio) that the press represents only the liberal eastern establishment. Liberals expressing views differing from those of the right are being labeled un-American and unpatriotic by right wing conservatives. It is a dangerous trend - a trend that some might argue parallels the right wing movement in Germany during the Thirties when the Fascists excoriated socialists and other liberals, burned books, and murdered opponents to gain complete and dictatorial control of the government.

Originally the term "liberal" was used to describe a scholar well studied in the liberal arts, someone who was broadly educated in the arts and sciences - history, literature, humanities, languages, mathematics, economics, all the sciences, and the peoples and cultures of many lands. A liberal is a person who grew to understand that we are all members of the human race, unique in our own cultures, and each uniquely gifted to contribute to the betterment of mankind. Unfortunately, these are the very people that fans of Rush Limbaugh call "communists." (See Rush Limbaugh's website where complaints about the "liberal" press have graduated to calling CNN the "Communist News Network&quot Slightly more politely, more sophisticated conservatives choose to denigrate well educated people by referring to them as "eastern establishment elitists." This writer prefers the term "well educated."

From this writer's aging perspective, it seems that most liberals I have met are by definition very interested in equality and fairness, the welfare of all Americans, health care for all Americans, a free public higher education for all Americans, protecting the environment and our wilderness areas, tolerance and respect for individual freedoms (including women's), and more equitable income distribution in America.

Meanwhile, many conservatives I have met usually espouse one or more programs and policies that are mainly self serving - including the reduction or elimination of taxes, protection of the status quo and states rights irrespective of societal inequities, "my" religious convictions - not yours, prosperity at any cost, business interests - not the public's, the right to own assault weapons, a powerful military rather than universal public health and education, or finally America first - the U.N. never! In a more vernacular sense, "I've got mine, Jack, to hell with you."

In the early 1900s strikers and union organizers were called communists and rabble-rousers. Perhaps they were, but many of us now take for granted the fruits of their trials and tribulations - the 40 hour week, safe and decent working conditions, child labor laws, regular vacations, etc. In the sixties Martin Luther King and other racial equality activists were called communists and trouble-makers. Perhaps they were, but today we are finally making progress in eliminating racial inequalities that have existed for more than 300 years. During the Viet Nam war, those opposed to the war were called communists and traitors, but now we understand how we were misled by our government into fighting that war in the first place. Yes, liberals have always been with us and they have often led the way to genuine reform of conservative traditions that were unfair and sometimes unjust.

Since the end of the Cold War and the fall of the U.S.S.R., it seems that some conservatives regret not having "Commies" to kick around anymore. Thus, they have turned to the next political philosophy advocating societal change to denigrate and blame for social unrest. "Bleeding Heart Liberal" is a familiar and favorite right wing slander, but many conservatives still believe deep in their hearts that liberals are really communists bent upon taking something away from them personally. But this writer believes that given the results of the last election, it serves an ill wind for conservative writers and talk show hosts to suggest that liberals are stupid or evil or misguided fools. When liberalism dies, the heart and soul of this nation and its future must die.

Finally, this writer believes that certain radio talk shows are really "hate talk" shows that are extremely dangerous to the free exchange of differing points of view. That certain radio hosts use mean-spirited and hateful language in a way that incites their listeners. Language that might inflame and motivate those who would shoot a President Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy or Martin Luther King, or even blow up a Federal Building in Oklahoma. Why must such political disagreement be aired in such a rude and insulting way? Clearly, some conservatives feel their way of life is threatened. We must all learn to moderate the tone of our convictions and allow for civilized disagreement. Certitude in any belief leads to conflict. Absolute certitude can lead to violence. Pragmatic tolerance allows each of us to accept that there are other viewpoints and ultimately to discussion and compromise and therefore progress.

If we as human beings must judge others, it is important that we clearly understand what others are trying to say and accurately label those viewpoints and not slander the speaker. The word "civil" is the root of the word "civilization." We must all become more civil to one another if collectively we are to become a civilized nation.

The answer, the author believes, is a better and broader education of our young people. In a process often called the "Dumbing Down of America," our institutions of higher learning no longer require the study of languages, the reading of the classics, the humanities, and the study of philosophy - logic and ethics. Elementary and high schools have virtually abandoned the teaching of English grammar and sentence construction. More and more schools seem to emphasize athletic programs to the marginalization of academic programs. The long-term result has been greater illiteracy and ignorance - illiteracy and ignorance that breeds more envy, bitterness, resentment, intolerance, bigotry and hatred.

CONTINUED...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/11/23_liberal.html

And that is why DU matters.

[LondonReign2]

22. We have a whole contingent right here that uses Liberal as a dirty word

as well as Progressive.

[G_j]

26. Mean people suck!

A statement so eloquent in it's simplicity..

What is the opposite of a "Bleeding Heart? a hardened, cold heart, or maybe just to be "heartless".

The opposite of a "Tree Hugger"? a tree hater?
And how they hate the word "Empathy"!


They are proud to embrace cruelty and selfishness, and yes they do suck!

[a kennedy]

36. Thank you for this.......I've always wondered how that happened....

NOW. I need to know how public servants and mostly teachers are now the scourage of all occupations?? How did THAT happen?

[Octafish]

40. They -- those with money and power -- hate Unions.

So they use their broadcast media to reinforce certain false perceptions, like unions make the crapola of life cost more, union members are dirty people who need to shower, unions are communism's way of infiltrating Murka, etc.

Wanna Know Why We the People Really Don't Know Squat?

Corporate McPravda owns the airwaves.



And Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information, including their ideas about these two statues. Wonder what people would think were they to learn from the tee vee what pater and fils have really done with their power?

The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making

Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.

Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis

Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy – as in true democracy – places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society – locally and globally.

From the late 19th century on, the “threats” to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.

SNIP...

The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the “public” and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.

The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and “experts” armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape America’s “democratic propaganda” throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.

CONTINUED...

http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making

Here's how much of the nation's press were magically transformed from watchdogs into lapdogs:

The Powell Memo (also known as the Powell Manifesto)

The Powell Memo was first published August 23, 1971

Introduction

In 1971, Lewis Powell, then a corporate lawyer and member of the boards of 11 corporations, wrote a memo to his friend Eugene Sydnor, Jr., the Director of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The memorandum was dated August 23, 1971, two months prior to Powell’s nomination by President Nixon to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Powell Memo did not become available to the public until long after his confirmation to the Court. It was leaked to Jack Anderson, a liberal syndicated columnist, who stirred interest in the document when he cited it as reason to doubt Powell’s legal objectivity. [font color="red"]Anderson cautioned that Powell “might use his position on the Supreme Court to put his ideas into practice…in behalf of business interests.”[/font color]

Though Powell’s memo was not the sole influence, the Chamber and corporate activists took his advice to heart and began building a powerful array of institutions designed to shift public attitudes and beliefs over the course of years and decades. The memo influenced or inspired the creation of the Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the Cato Institute, Citizens for a Sound Economy, Accuracy in Academe, and other powerful organizations. Their long-term focus began paying off handsomely in the 1980s, in coordination with the Reagan Administration’s “hands-off business” philosophy.

Most notable about these institutions was their focus on education, shifting values, and movement-building — a focus we share, though often with sharply contrasting goals.* (See our endnote for more on this.)

So did Powell’s political views influence his judicial decisions? The evidence is mixed. [font color="red"]Powell did embrace expansion of corporate privilege and wrote the majority opinion in First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, a 1978 decision that effectively invented a First Amendment “right” for corporations to influence ballot questions.[/font color] On social issues, he was a moderate, whose votes often surprised his backers.

CONTINUED...

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/

Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:

Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy

The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.

John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.

Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.

This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.

SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html

If you find a moment, a kennedy, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) of a wonderful web-based radio program on Carey:

http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3

It's also important to remember there once was a vibrant media environment, with thousands of daily newspapers and independent radio and tee vee stations. Today a small handful of companies provide almost all the "news."

Thus, They do their evil communication work running the Mighty Wurlitzer.

[Enthusiast]

46. Wow! Isn't that fantastic!

[Robbins]

20. Reality

Anyone who gets money from any government program funded by taxes is accepting socialism.That what it means.

Social security,SSI,medicare,medicaid,food stamps are all socialist programs because they take tax money and give them back to
people.Even countrys with conservative governments have kind of socialist health care programs.

Bernie is proven supporter of these programs which gop wants to cut.

when he rails against trade deals he has credabilty since he opposed the ones that have became law.

[Autumn]

4. Bernie does well in any territory. I can't wait for him to announce he is running

for President.

[donnasgirl]

9. I am biting at the bit waiting

Did anyone see him on the BILLO Show?

[daleanime]

13. No, will not watch O'Lieey....

on the other hand, I try to catch Bernie every place else.

[tazkcmo]

18. Great people inspire sacrifice and action.

Due to Sen. Sanders, I sacrificed untold millions of brain cells to watch this O'Biley segment. Go Bernie Go!

[donnasgirl]

34. Due to Senator Sanders

So did I, It is my wish that someday somewhere somebody shoves a rag down the Self proclaimed great ones throat.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

30. I just watched that clip. God, is O'Lielly a dick.

Everytime Bernie starts to explain his position, SHILLO cuts him off and puts words in his mouth. What a credible "journalist"!

[a kennedy]

38. Yes....and posted it here.....didn't get much play though.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026520032

[onecaliberal]

5. He's exactly what we need. Do we have the courage?

[Cheese Sandwich]

6. Thanks I searched and found it on line...

Bernie Sanders Fox News Sunday 4/19/2015

[Hiraeth]

11. Thanks for the link to the video.

[hedda_foil]

15. Bravo, Senator Sanders. Bravo!

Masterfully done, Senator! We should have a standing ovation smiley for times like these,but lacking that...

[rurallib]

21. thanks so much for the video - I refuse to turn on that crap show

Wallace tried like hell didn't he? Way to go Bernie!

[Cheese Sandwich]

24. Bernie didn't take the bait...

Unfortunately he doesn't have as much money or recognition as some other candidates, so I guess he has to do these kinds of shows to get the exposure.

[DrKZ]

10. He is what is needed

Bernie Sanders is who and what is needed at this very peculiar yet critical time in our history ...

[freshwest]

12. Great video of Bernie! I hope people are smart enough to listen to him! (Wallace, usual garbage) n/t

[Iwillnevergiveup]

14. Bernie is so skilled

at working around the bloviating. And he carries no baggage. When Wallace says, "If I may..." it's such a time worn Faux strategy to fluster the guest and promote it's own talking points. Bernie did very well.

[tomsaiditagain]

16. Bernie knows the game

and he knows all of them are not blameless. The Dems, Indies and the Repubs love working 8 hours a day dialing for dollars. Bernie is in the cash pockets as well.

If you got money in this world you aint nothin

[JEB]

23. Its hard to beat Bernie,

his well thought out principled stands on important issues are plainly stated in everyday American language.

[jwirr]

25. Glad to see that he went on faux. He reaches a different audience and he knows how to frame the

message so that even the tea party can get it.

[Bluenorthwest]

27. Bernie Sanders is one of the most media adept politicians I have ever seen. His skills fly under the

radar because he does not use them to draw attention to himself but to ideas, policies, and questions.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. The whole purpose for having him on was to continue trashing Hillary

He realized it and tried to soften the his prior statements, but Chris continued to push. This segment was not about him at all, but how they could get more people--even liberals--to trash Clinton. They don't fear him. They fear Clinton.

[LiberalLovinLug]

39. That's exactly what I saw too

It was a segment crafted to force Bernie to bad-mouth Hillary. And at the end to also put a stake into Sanders by trying to get him to admit the uselessness of running against her. I like how he turned that around and without giving an answer, he pointed out the difficulty in fighting these Super Pacs that Citizens United ruling enabled.

[awoke_in_2003]

29. If he runs he gets my money

Clinton, and any other democratic candidate, will get more than enough from big money donors

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. She won't get a dime from me.

If she's the nominee she will grudgingly get my vote, but I'm not sending money. If Bernie runs, he will get every cent of what I can afford.

[awoke_in_2003]

32. She will get plenty

of money from Wall Street.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

33. I can't do anything about that.

[awoke_in_2003]

42. I know

It is sad that the only to get elected is to sell your soul to the rich

[woo me with science]

35. Be careful, Bernie.

Watch where your food and beverages come from, and stay out of small planes.

But please run. We need you.

[BeanMusical]

37. Kick and R.

Wallace is a slimy turd.

[polichick]

41. We should know one way or the other soon. Hope he runs!

[Taylorz]

43. bernie wins all debates

Against anyone. He has the right messaging and the truth. He has my support 100%

[liberal_at_heart]

44. I love that he is getting so much air time. That is good news.

[Cha]

45. Great to hear.. President Obama always does well in "enemy territory", too.

[Enthusiast]

47. Thanks, Robbins! I love Bernie!

[freebrew]

48. I saw that flipping thru the channels...

wondered why Bernie was on the channel I won't mention.

Chris Wallace is a fucking IDIOT.