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You Bernie---Love you dude---but.... (Original Post) trumad Apr 2015 OP
I love Bernie... FarPoint Apr 2015 #1
No one uses Bernie. still_one Apr 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #4
Not sure where you get the impression that I am upset, I am not. Just made a comment still_one Apr 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #22
Thanks for the clarification still_one Apr 2015 #31
Thanks for the clarification. I am a little dense still_one Apr 2015 #32
IF you are running for president you want to reach the widest audience as possible Today he talked jwirr Apr 2015 #3
Bernie Sanders Rolls While Demonstrating How To Knock Down Fox News Zorra Apr 2015 #5
+1 Go Vols Apr 2015 #9
Too bad I didn't watch that program! Cal33 Apr 2015 #13
+2 nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #16
Bernie is a smart cookie and fearless opponent. Go Bernie... nt haikugal Apr 2015 #21
Bernie did perfectly. Taylorz Apr 2015 #27
Is that program available on the net somewhere? Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #36
Unrec. nt darkangel218 Apr 2015 #6
Nonsense. n/t Jefferson23 Apr 2015 #7
If you want to go there... gotj90 Apr 2015 #8
As if you care nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #10
I do care.... trumad Apr 2015 #11
Which is? nt LiberalElite Apr 2015 #12
you must think Sanders Enrique Apr 2015 #14
he using them G_j Apr 2015 #15
Thinking outside the box in ways Hillary Clinton never could, so colored is her POV. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #17
Well said. nt darkangel218 Apr 2015 #18
If you honesty want Sanders to become the nominee BainsBane Apr 2015 #23
Thanks for a little dose of reality redstateblues Apr 2015 #26
We're still waiting for ONE politician on the national stage Ron Green Apr 2015 #33
I hope he does run BainsBane Apr 2015 #34
he may have but he'll be far more unscripted than HRC ever will be cali Apr 2015 #37
Who to have a beer with... Clinton or Sanders? Taylorz Apr 2015 #28
LOL, who's using Hillary Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #19
Sorry, perhaps you hoped for that. sadoldgirl Apr 2015 #24
+1 840high Apr 2015 #29
Just like Hillary is using you Depaysement Apr 2015 #25
Oh Snap! NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #30
Ha ha ha!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #35

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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. IF you are running for president you want to reach the widest audience as possible Today he talked
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:20 PM
Apr 2015

to the teabaggers.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
5. Bernie Sanders Rolls While Demonstrating How To Knock Down Fox News
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

Sen. Sanders didn’t bat an eye when Bill O’Reilly began the interview by trying various techniques to get him to say something negative about Hillary Clinton. Sanders was aggressive and seized the interview from O’Reilly. He forced Bill-O to pivot away from his usual blustering attacks and towards a friendly softer tone. Sanders even got O’Reilly to admit that the top dog on Fox News agrees with him on some issues like money in politics.

What really stuck out was Sanders’s ability to shift O’Reilly and the interview anywhere he wanted it to go. It is rare that a guest on O’Reilly show is more aggressive than the host, but the senator from Vermont was aggressive without being combative. The segment never turned into a scream fest. In fact, Sanders handled Bill O’Reilly fairly easily by keeping the tone civil and not falling for the loaded questions that the Fox News host was leading trying to lead him with.

Bernie Sanders was able to successfully take apart Fox News by weeding through the bias that most of the questions were based on. Sanders took on the Fox News and showed them what a strong liberal looks and sounds like. O’Reilly could rely on his gimmick of being the voice for the “folks,” because he confronted with an authentic voice that works tirelessly for ordinary Americans.

The lesson for any member of the left who appears on Fox News is that it is important to be aggressive while not taking the questions at face value. The political motivation for Sanders to appear on Fox News is that he is trying to rally grassroots support on all sides for his potential presidential campaign.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/04/17/bernie-sanders-rolls-demonstrating-knock-fox-news.html

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
16. +2
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

Run Bernie Run- into the White House



“People are really getting angry”--How Bernie Sanders just electrified Iowa Salon.com

Edit: For how long it lasts--

 

Taylorz

(53 posts)
27. Bernie did perfectly.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:40 PM
Apr 2015

I would expect Hillary Clinton to let the Fux Nooz be ignored, and potential voters ignored.

Sometimes Fux Republicans are the same people that the Third Way Democrats have abandoned years ago and favored for the 1%'ers. The middle class. White people. Black people. Latino people. All people - and he's been on target on all the issues that even the 99%'ers are looking for. America needs to rebuild the middle class, in ORDER for the rich to continue to be happy. There has to be a balance somewhere. The inequality has grown so big that we have to put a stop in the runaway social order. Going right and pushing to the right is not the answer. Hillary Clinton is for the right of center, and favors mainstream Republican positions more than the fringe-right positions. That is what is attracting the wrong kind of people into the party. We are a big tent, but sometimes, there is no more room for right-wing ideologues - and if they want to go right, then they need to split it up.

Yes. I said it. Split the right-leaning Third Wayers out of the real Democratic Party. Find their own party - Call it the Third Way Party. They can triangulate all they care - we don't need this kind of right-wing muck in our platform - they can go tilt either way on some issues. And what's more important - the candidate that you may view may not be the SAME as the President. We got hope and change, and we got some of it, but not all of it. It went more to the right than to the left. We got Obamacare, born from the Heritage Foundation blueprint to oppose what Hillary Clinton proposed in 1994. It continues to enrich the insurance companies, but in a different way.

Bernie is merely reminding people that there are such people like him out there that wants to reach out for people like him.

Bernie has spoken for me, and I am extremely excited about what he can bring to the Democratic Party. If he is the flagbearer, Democratic Party can be risen from the ashes like the phoenix - and that includes bringing in progressive candidates to remove as many Republicans now that they have a real choice -the progressives or the regressives. The future or the Dark Ages.

Take your pick.

I'd rather go progressive, and damn the Third Party. I am of the opinion that Bernie will have nowhere but to go up and take the mantle once he makes a formal switch to the Democratic Party and give Hillary Clinton a real challenger from the left.

gotj90

(45 posts)
8. If you want to go there...
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:37 PM
Apr 2015

I would say FOX News used Hillary in 2008 after the primary was out-of-reach to attack Obama.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
11. I do care....
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:42 PM
Apr 2015

Political strategy is something that I care about quite a bit.

Fox knows what they are doing...

G_j

(40,366 posts)
15. he using them
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:47 PM
Apr 2015

the dude can't open his mouth without articulating truth that anyone can understand.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
17. Thinking outside the box in ways Hillary Clinton never could, so colored is her POV.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 07:48 PM
Apr 2015

Hillary sees everything though Hillary-colored lenses.

In Hillary land, there's no need to talk to "those people" and you only ever get in a van or enter a Chipotle when your highly paid hundreds of handlers tells you it's a good idea.

And, since these handlers were a Hillary Idea ©, they must be perfect ideas and part of the wonderfulness that is her.

If I was stuck on an island, I'd want Bernie.

If I was stuck in an elevator, I'd want Bernie.

And if anyone is going to be president, I want someone like Bernie.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
23. If you honesty want Sanders to become the nominee
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:00 PM
Apr 2015

He's going to have highly paid handlers and staged trips to restaurants as well. You aren't on a island. You're in the USA. That is how politics works, and has for the entire half century or more you've been alive.

You want an ideologically perfect campaign with no big financial contributions and no staged photo ops, then what you want is a Democratic defeat. This is the USA, not some fairy land with unicorns and rainbows. Jesus.

We have Citizens United and a series of other legal decisions that opened politics up to the highest bidder. You want to pretend none of that exists. You keep pretending it's all about Clinton and not the electoral system and the capitalist economy. I can think of no better way to ensure it only continues to get worse. You want to do something about the problem, then you need to address it and stop pretending Bernie will wave his magic wand and make all the boo boos go away.






Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
33. We're still waiting for ONE politician on the national stage
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:20 AM
Apr 2015

to tell the people about what politics in the US has become. Maybe Bernie Sanders will do that. I care less and less for the "dose of reality."

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
34. I hope he does run
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:33 AM
Apr 2015

He'd bring important issues under discussion. But if he is to become a serious contender for the nomination or the presidency, he will be stage managed. That's how it works, ever since Nixon's five o'clock shadow lost him the TV debate to JFK.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
37. he may have but he'll be far more unscripted than HRC ever will be
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:32 AM
Apr 2015

Bernie is really used to interacting with voters

 

Taylorz

(53 posts)
28. Who to have a beer with... Clinton or Sanders?
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:43 PM
Apr 2015

Yep, it'd be Bernie, every time, with his choice of ale anywhere in my home state from me...

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
19. LOL, who's using Hillary
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 08:09 PM
Apr 2015

Hillary Clinton Rakes in Big Money from Two Goldman Sachs Speeches in One Week - Presumed presidential candidate is pretty cozy with big bankers.

Former Secretary of State, and presumed 2016 presidential hopeful, Hillary Clinton spoke at two separate Goldman Sachs events in the past week (on October 24, and then again on October 29), for a cool $200,000 per speech, her normal fee according to Politico and the New York Times. $400,000—not a bad payday for the former First Lady...

The two speaking engagements follow Clinton’s visits to private-equity firms KKR this past July, and the Carlyle Group...

Details about those talks have been kept similarly under wraps, but the $200,000 engagement price means it's been payday with pretty easy hours for Clinton since the summer.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/hillary-clinton-rakes-big-money-two-goldman-sachs-speeches-one-week

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
24. Sorry, perhaps you hoped for that.
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 09:10 PM
Apr 2015

Actually it turned out to be the opposite. Bernie
has learned how and where he can go to reach
the people, and how to get his message across.

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
25. Just like Hillary is using you
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 10:17 PM
Apr 2015

Except Bernie was well aware of what O'Reilly was trying to accomplish.

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