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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:02 AM Apr 2015

CNN Poll: Hillary Clinton dominates her possible Democratic opponents

(CNN email)

Hillary Clinton dominates her possible Democratic opponents, but there is no clear frontrunner for the Republican nomination for president, a new CNN/ORC International poll shows.

Overall, 69% of those polled back Clinton. Her strongest potential opponent is Vice President Joe Biden, who got the backing of 11% of those surveyed. In third was Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (5%), followed by former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb (3%), former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee (1%) and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (1%).

For the GOP, the poll finds Jeb Bush has the lead, but his edge is slight and there are multiple contenders for the nomination who could overtake him.

Overall, 17% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents back Bush for the GOP nomination, while 12% support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Rand Paul and Marco Rubio stand at 11% each, with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 9% and Ted Cruz at 7%. Former neurosurgeon Ben Carson and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie got 4% each.

The poll of 1,018 adults was conducted by telephone April 16-19. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

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CNN Poll: Hillary Clinton dominates her possible Democratic opponents (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2015 OP
Martin O'Malley is tied with Chafee? Renew Deal Apr 2015 #1
When you're at 1%, that's just polling noise... brooklynite Apr 2015 #3
I've seen polls with O'Malley as high as 14%. When he offically announces he should go up. n/t FSogol Apr 2015 #9
No. Problem is most people do not know who Martin O'Malley is at this time still_one Apr 2015 #32
I bet more Democrats know O'Malley than Chafee Renew Deal Apr 2015 #41
Probably true, but after O'Malley declares that will change still_one Apr 2015 #46
Here is a link on CNN with the same poll information OKNancy Apr 2015 #2
Apparently DU wasn't polled..... brooklynite Apr 2015 #4
I would imagine that those numbers will come down when her possible Democratic opponents Autumn Apr 2015 #5
Early polls are a joke. progressoid Apr 2015 #6
Perhaps so...I don't look at polls, I look at patterns brooklynite Apr 2015 #8
"I don't look at polls" says the person posting a poll result and then LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #13
Lmao!!!! darkangel218 Apr 2015 #27
Yes, indeed...I look at this poll in the context of the past nine months of polls.... brooklynite Apr 2015 #36
That was a very early poll (June 2006) and doesn't compare to the current timeframe. DCBob Apr 2015 #14
How about March of 2007 progressoid Apr 2015 #17
Yes, 37% is not 69%. DCBob Apr 2015 #20
The numbers are different and are just as meaningless this early in the game. progressoid Apr 2015 #22
Well, I will take 69% at any point in the game. DCBob Apr 2015 #24
You cited a poll that was from a year earlier in the 2008 cycle tritsofme Apr 2015 #16
Right you are. How about Dec of 2007... progressoid Apr 2015 #18
The problem is that when you poll, yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #28
You're not helping your cause with polls like this. tritsofme Apr 2015 #35
I wasn't a particularly stellar math student.... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #29
realclearpolitics.com is a bit biased to the right... cascadiance Apr 2015 #34
Wait until America sees the pic zappaman Apr 2015 #7
I assume you're being sarcastic? Adrahil Apr 2015 #10
Get Us Out of 'Nam Man!!! Stallion Apr 2015 #11
I'm seeing it everywhere on DU! zappaman Apr 2015 #12
I believe the technical term is "token opposition" tritsofme Apr 2015 #15
Can't be! Everybody here is telling me that she needs a primary challenger! Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #19
Does this mean now she will be accused of dominatrix? William769 Apr 2015 #21
that is funny. nt seabeyond Apr 2015 #43
Uhhhh…there are no other Dem candidates… CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #23
That tells me that 78% of Dems don't want somebody else Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #25
Well, I suspect even if Biden, OMalley, Bernie, Webb, etc declare... DCBob Apr 2015 #26
They will get kneecapped Kerrigan style Cayenne Apr 2015 #39
I know. I get that. CoffeeCat Apr 2015 #40
How is it not democracy if most people want it? eom treestar Apr 2015 #45
I know, what kind of democracy do we have if a majority of people want Clinton and vote for her? Downtown Hound Apr 2015 #48
And Obama was just an alternate candidate from the same small group. Marr Apr 2015 #47
Meaningless at this point. polichick Apr 2015 #30
Polls mean nothing in the days of hackable voting machines. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #31
Good thing then that they're not being hacked (2006, 2008, 2012) brooklynite Apr 2015 #37
you think EVERY race in EVERY state was 100% legit? I don't hobbit709 Apr 2015 #38
Honestly? I do...because Republicans keep trying to steal them the old-fashioned way. brooklynite Apr 2015 #42
Sure, now. KamaAina Apr 2015 #33
This is like a movie studio putting 'the year's biggest hit' on their movie poster... Marr Apr 2015 #44
Kick Scurrilous Apr 2015 #49

Renew Deal

(81,851 posts)
41. I bet more Democrats know O'Malley than Chafee
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:55 PM
Apr 2015

O'Malley represented a pretty big state and is in the middle of three big media markets (Philly, Baltimore, DC). And yet he's tied with a republican convert.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
2. Here is a link on CNN with the same poll information
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:34 AM
Apr 2015
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/20/politics/2016-elections-republican-field-poll/

Clinton declared her candidacy for the Democratic nomination for president with a web video and promptly hit the road to Iowa and New Hampshire. Her campaign begins in an extremely strong position among Democrats nationwide: nearly 7 in 10 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents support her. Overall, 69% back the former secretary of state over Vice President Joe Biden (11%), Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders (5%), former Virginia senator Jim Webb (3%), former Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee (1%) and former Maryland governor Martin O'Malley (1%). Clinton is also the second choice of just over half of the Democrats who prefer someone else for the nomination. All told, Clinton is the first or second choice of 83% of the potential Democratic electorate.

Any possible Democratic competitors face a steep uphill battle in trying to draw support away from Clinton. Democrats are broadly enthusiastic about a Clinton candidacy, far more than they are for any other potential nominee. Overall, 58% of Democrats say they would be enthusiastic if she won the party's nomination. About a quarter say they would be enthusiastic about a Biden nomination (26%) while 11% say so about Sanders, 7% Webb, 6% O'Malley and 2% Chafee.



brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
4. Apparently DU wasn't polled.....
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 10:41 AM
Apr 2015

"Democrats overwhelmingly see Clinton as holding several presidential characteristics. Nearly 9 in 10 Democrats see Clinton as a strong and decisive leader (88% say that description applies to her) and as having a vision for the country's future (88%). About 8 in 10 say she represents the future of the Democratic Party (82%) and cares about people like them (82%). Democrats are slightly less apt to say Clinton is honest and trustworthy, though three-quarters do view her as honest (75%, about the same as in March)."

Autumn

(45,012 posts)
5. I would imagine that those numbers will come down when her possible Democratic opponents
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:04 AM
Apr 2015

announce and start actually campaigning against her.

progressoid

(49,961 posts)
6. Early polls are a joke.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:30 AM
Apr 2015
Clinton, Giuliani Top 2008 Presidential Nomination Polls

http://www.gallup.com/poll/23245/clinton-giuliani-top-2008-presidential-nomination-polls.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- A new Gallup Poll finds Hillary Clinton with a wide lead over other 2008 Democratic presidential nomination hopefuls among Democrats nationwide, while Rudy Giuliani has a slight lead over John McCain on the Republican side among rank-and-file Republicans. Most Americans apparently have not given much thought to the 2008 election yet -- nearly half do not provide a name when asked separately whom they would most like to see elected president. Clinton is mentioned most often in response to this open-ended question.

The Nominations

The June 1-4 poll finds 36% of Democratic registered voters saying they will most likely support Clinton for the party's nomination in 2008. Al Gore, the 2000 Democratic nominee who has said he does not plan to seek national office again but has not completely ruled out a bid, is second with 16%. The two members of the 2004 Democratic ticket, presidential candidate John Kerry and his running mate John Edwards, are the other candidates who currently register double-digit support, just below Gore.



In a separate question...

Thinking ahead to the election for president in 2008, who would you most like to see elected president? (OPEN-ENDED)


*Obama got 1%

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
8. Perhaps so...I don't look at polls, I look at patterns
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:37 AM
Apr 2015

Hillary Clinton has CONSISTENTLY had a large lead from the earliest polls that were probably name recognition to the newest polls when the campaigns are underway.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
13. "I don't look at polls" says the person posting a poll result and then
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:54 AM
Apr 2015

talking about historical poll results.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
36. Yes, indeed...I look at this poll in the context of the past nine months of polls....
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:48 PM
Apr 2015

...and it supports my position that Hillary is still overwhelmingly popular. Feel free to disagree.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. That was a very early poll (June 2006) and doesn't compare to the current timeframe.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

Try looking at a poll from April 2007.. that would be a better comparison. I suspect the numbers were much different.

progressoid

(49,961 posts)
17. How about March of 2007
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:17 PM
Apr 2015
In the CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, 37 percent of registered Democrats said they would vote for Clinton as the Democratic 2008 nominee, while 22 percent named Obama. Fourteen percent went with Gore, and 12 percent backed Edwards.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/14/democrats.poll/

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
16. You cited a poll that was from a year earlier in the 2008 cycle
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:01 PM
Apr 2015

Compared to today. Not exactly making your point here...

progressoid

(49,961 posts)
18. Right you are. How about Dec of 2007...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015


The Dec. 14-16, 2007, poll shows that Clinton continues to have a large lead over her competitors, with 45% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents saying they support her for the nomination. Twenty-seven percent of Democrats support Obama and 15% support Edwards. Sen. Joe Biden (3%), Gov. Bill Richardson (2%), and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (2%) are well behind in what has pretty much been a three-person race the entire campaign.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/103351/clinton-maintains-large-lead-over-obama-nationally.aspx
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. The problem is that when you poll,
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:04 PM
Apr 2015

You don't take into consideration caucus vs primary. President Obama did well in caucus while Hillary did well in primaries. Very difficult to poll under those situations.

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
35. You're not helping your cause with polls like this.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:42 PM
Apr 2015

Obama was within spitting distance, and combined with Edwards matches Clinton.

If you look at polls in the early states at that time, they would show an even more competitive race.

Nothing like that is happening now. The other so called candidates in this field struggle to achieve support that is statistically significant.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. I wasn't a particularly stellar math student....
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

I wasn't a particularly stellar math student

but


The June 1-4 poll finds 36% of Democratic registered voters saying they will most likely support Clinton for the party's nomination in 2008



but 69% is almost twice as high as 36%:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
34. realclearpolitics.com is a bit biased to the right...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:21 PM
Apr 2015

And, Hillary Clinton had a pretty dominating lead a LOT later in to the 2008 campaign too!

POLLS ARE USELESS NOW, unless you are trying to use them as a means of keeping others out of the race and stifle the democratic process and arguably rig the process instead.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
10. I assume you're being sarcastic?
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:48 AM
Apr 2015

I mean, how many voters actually even know, or care, who Kissinger is these days? And of those who do, how many would change their mind about her because of that pic? My guess? Almost none.

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
15. I believe the technical term is "token opposition"
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 11:55 AM
Apr 2015

The level of support for all of the other candidates besides Biden is statistically insignificant.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
19. Can't be! Everybody here is telling me that she needs a primary challenger!
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

That she's not inevitable! We need Elizabeth Warren!

Hillary Clinton leads every Democratic and Republican challenger at this point. Like it or not DU'ers, the rest of the country is not as liberal or as informed as you are. She's a good, but not perfect candidate. If you want to defeat the Republicans, start getting behind her. Yes, that's right. I said it. You're not helping anybody by saying you won't vote for her.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
23. Uhhhh…there are no other Dem candidates…
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:49 PM
Apr 2015

…running a serious campaign.

What a joke.

To those of us who want a Progressive candidate who will fight for the middle class, kick corp-political corruption in the ass, stop fracking and stop the egregious banking industry from destroying this country--this is very depressing news.

If just ONE formidable opponent stepped forward to run--Hillary's campaign would be in jeopardy.

Even without anyone else declaring formally--22 percent of Dems want someone else---what does that tell you???

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
25. That tells me that 78% of Dems don't want somebody else
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 12:59 PM
Apr 2015

And I'll admit that math isn't my best subject, but I do believe that's quite a bit higher than 22%.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
26. Well, I suspect even if Biden, OMalley, Bernie, Webb, etc declare...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:03 PM
Apr 2015

the numbers will be more or less the same. This is Hillary's time. I think as we go forward more and more are going to jump on the bandwagon. Voters will want to be part of history electing the first woman President and see the first "First Gentleman".

Cayenne

(480 posts)
39. They will get kneecapped Kerrigan style
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:14 PM
Apr 2015

Hillary is going to walk away with the nomination uncontested. At least that's the plan. No more 'Obama' coming up from behind. Not this time.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
48. I know, what kind of democracy do we have if a majority of people want Clinton and vote for her?
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:08 PM
Apr 2015

I mean really, true democracy would be if the 22% of people who don't want her could have their way and ignore the rule of the majority.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
47. And Obama was just an alternate candidate from the same small group.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:00 PM
Apr 2015

Our system was ridiculously broken then, and since Citizens United, it's just a joke.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
38. you think EVERY race in EVERY state was 100% legit? I don't
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:56 PM
Apr 2015

Results where 1000 more votes for the R than were registered voters in that town. Sudden 10% swings in the results compared to polls taken the day before the election.
I work on computers and even my basic programming skills would let me write a self-wiping routine into memory only that would erase at power down.

brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
42. Honestly? I do...because Republicans keep trying to steal them the old-fashioned way.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:30 PM
Apr 2015

Seriously, I don't start with a presumption and look for data to support it. I've asked REAL Democrats: Party officials, elected officials, candidates, campaign staff. And NOT ONE of the people I've asked (including people who have lost races) believe the machines were hacked.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
33. Sure, now.
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:18 PM
Apr 2015

She's got all the name recognition. Only political junkies like us, and Marylanders, have any idea who Martin O'Malley is.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
44. This is like a movie studio putting 'the year's biggest hit' on their movie poster...
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 03:36 PM
Apr 2015

on January 1st.

lol.

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