Kuwait Approves Death Penalty for those who insult the Prophel Mohammed

[BlueDemKev]

Behold, the great bastion of democracy we "liberated" in 1991.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/589e80cc-9525-11e1-ad72-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=published_links%2Frss%2Fworld%2Ffeed%2F%2Fproduct&segid=20006&ftcamp=traffic%2Fcontextual%2Frss%2Foutbrain%2Ffinance_idesk%2Fauddev#axzz1uCOhrMFr

[Iggo]

1. Our glorious allies in the war against terror!!!

[Quantess]

2. This is the mark of a backwards culture.

Flame away. Ethnocentricity, and all that, but some cultures are better than others, in my opinion.

[get the red out]

5. Agree!

In my mind, this makes them terrorists themselves. They are controlling speech and religion among their people with threats of death.

[BOG PERSON]

8. if only we had let iraq go ahead and annex the psuedo-country of kuwait

instead of restoring their monarchy, all of this backwardness could have been avoided.

[Harmony Blue]

12. You are not off base

Christianity ushered in the dark ages. If Islam had its way we still would be in the dark ages. The Renaissance broke the chains of religion and brought back the importance of elightened human beings that care about the here and now. A life unexamined isn't worth living.

[white_wolf]

16. The Church fought the Enlightment every step of the way...

and some Christians are still fighting against it. I'm sorry, but I do not believe there is anything inherently worse in Islam than there is in Christianity. As for the dark ages, Islamic civilization was a beacon of knowledge in the dark ages,and in some cases even tolerance. Spain was a more tolerant place under the Muslims than it was after they were defeated.

[BOG PERSON]

20. yeah! what did islam ever contribute to science!

[white_wolf]

22. Thank you! +100.

The ignorance shown in this thread is really quite sad.

[4th law of robotics]

43. Historically quite a bit. Recently? Not so much.

/and they may have borrowed quite a bit from the Indians.

[joeybee12]

3. Democracy is flowering in the Middle East!

[Bake]

7. It's ON THE MARCH!!

Bake

[TheMadMonk]

4. Well you're fooked. Can't even spell "prophet" correctly. /nt

[Bake]

6. Yep, I think that gets you the death penalty too!

Can't even spel profet! STONE HIM!!!

Bake

[apocalypsehow]

9. Obligatory "We're just as bad! What about the Crusades? Let's talk about that!" post in 5, 4, 3...

[white_wolf]

11. Christanity is just as bad as Islam.

Neither is any better or worse than the other. Both have done horrible things in the past and will likely do horrible things in the future. Is Islam particularly brutal right now? Yes, but to blame that on something inherent in Islam itself is the wrong thing to do. As I've said before, Fundamentalism never arises in a vacuum it is a (wrong) response to oppression.

[Nye Bevan]

18. YES. I remember when the Pope issued a fatwa on the guy who created "Piss Christ".

And when the Archbishop of Cantebury called for the members of Monty Python to be beheaded for making "The Life of Brian".

[white_wolf]

19. Look at Christianity's history.

You'll be hard pressed to find anything more violent and brutal. It is more moderate now, because it is forced to be. However, let some of these preachers take power and see how fast we turn into something like Kuwait. Furthermore, the spread of Islamic fundamentalism is a direct result of imperialism in the Islamic world.

[Nye Bevan]

21. Yes. I can just picture Billy Graham and Rick Warren tying someone into a plastic chair

and then brutally decapitating them, for taking the Lord's name in vain.

[white_wolf]

24. Haven't you been following Uganda?

84% of the country are Christians and they are making homosexuality a capital offense. Oh, and guess what, the group that is helping push this bill is the American Christian organization, the Family.

[badtoworse]

25. Islam is way ahead of them.

It already is a capital offense in many Islamic countries.

[white_wolf]

27. What is your point?

I'm trying to point out that Christianity can be just as dangerous as Islam and Uganda and the Family are proving it. I swear, when did DU get some many Islamophobes? I suppose you think they hate us for our "freedom", don't you?

[badtoworse]

31. Google "Homosexuality" and "Islam"; do some reading and get back to me.

My opinions about the "Religion of Peace" are based on what millions of its followers are doing around the world today.

Your opinions about Christianity are based on what some obscure fringe group is doing. You need to do a whole lot better than that if you want to make the case that Christianity is just as dangerous as Islam.

[white_wolf]

32. You need to study some history and theology.

Historically Christianity has been just as bad as Islam. The Bible's stance on homosexuality is just as bad as the Quran's, but I'm betting you've never studied anything about Islam. If you did, you might learn something, but I know I'm asking too much of you. I swear you sound just like Rick Santorum "they hate us for our freedom" "Islam is evil" Grow up and read a book, until you do I'm done.

[badtoworse]

39. People really DO get stoned to death for adultery in Islamic countries today.

Christians stopped doing that about 2,000 years ago. You need to look at what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING in the two religions today and deal with that. The books were written thousands of years ago.

[riderinthestorm]

40. So any negative story brought up on DU about Islam means that person is Islamophobic?

This story from Kuwait IS fucked up and saying so does not make DUers bigots.

And bringing up Uganda is only demonstrating your own myopic ignorance. Many, many Christians and Christian organizations have condemned this piece of legislation that has been brought by ONE Ugandan legislator.

[badtoworse]

23. The big difference is that the Christians did it 800 years ago...

...and we've come a long way since then. These clowns are doing it today.

Your analogy is ridiculous.

[white_wolf]

26. What about Uganda?

84% of the people are Christians and they are trying to make homosexuality a capital offense. Secondly, the bill is being pushed by the Family. A very powerful American Christian group with ties to both major parties.

[badtoworse]

30. See excerpt from Wikipedia

"Several Christian organisations oppose it, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Church of Canada, Integrity Uganda, Exodus International, Accepting Evangelicals, Changing Attitude, Courage, Ekklesia, Fulcrum, Inclusive Church and the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement. Exodus International sent a letter to President Museveni stating, "The Christian church ... must be permitted to extend the love and compassion of Christ to all. We believe that this legislation would make this mission a difficult if not impossible task to carry out."[60] A group of U.S. Christian leaders have released a statement to Uganda about the bill, one of these leaders being Thomas Patrick Melady, former U.S. Ambassador to Uganda.[61] The Anglican Reverend Canon Gideon Byamugisha said that the Bill "would become state-legislated genocide".[62]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Bill

The bill was introduced by a legislator (NOT a religious organization) and apparently supported by a handful of Evangical "Christians". Based on that, you're broad-brushing millions of Christians who are appalled at the idea. Again, ridiculous.

BTW, the bill failed.

[apocalypsehow]

35. Don't trouble the poster with facts: he's on the usual "but look over here at this remote corner of

the world/far into the past/etc., etc." roll. And the fact that he can't even get, well, his facts, right is just icing on the cake. Any minute now you're going to get either a "reading comprehension" post, or an "you're not as smart as I am" reply. Bank it.

[badtoworse]

41. You were right on the money!!

[riderinthestorm]

42. Yes well, s/he's just declared us all bigots so I guess that's a new tactic.

Not sure that's better than "you're not as smart as I am" but insults appear to be the order of the day here....

[apocalypsehow]

33. As predicted. It's *tu quoque* all the live long day, the logical fallacy of the playground. n/t.

[white_wolf]

34. If Islam was inherntly bad as you seem to suggest...

then why were the Islamic societies in the Middle-Ages more tolerant and advanced than their Christian counterparts? My point is, there is nothing in Islam that is any worse than the things found in Christianity.

[apocalypsehow]

36. I haven't suggested anything of the sort, of course.

Therefore, your reply is misleading and non responsive. Per usual.


Edit: typo.

[white_wolf]

37. Actually, you did, but I'm done with you all.

If I want to argue with someone as ignorant as you I'll go talk to Santorum.

[apocalypsehow]

38. Actually, I didn't. And you just fullfilled another predition of mine, outlined in post #35.

All too easy.

"but I'm done with you all" - My heart is breaking as we speak.

[snooper2]

29. We aren't as bad anymore because Christians, Catholics, etc, don't really follow their holy book

If they did then yes, we would be living under the same shit..

Luckily most religous Americans just give the bible lip service..


Oh, and don't even MENTION the old testament, god gets to change his mind...Oh wait, no, he can't because he knows everything before it's going to happen. He PLANNED it that way



http://lavistachurchofchrist.org/LVarticles/WhyWeDontFollowtheOldTestament.htm

[4th law of robotics]

44. Funny how it never works the other way

a post about a christian being stupid = christianity is evil.

a post about a muslim being stupid = christianty is just as bad!

[hatrack]

10. "You're only making things worse for yourself!" "Worse?!? How could things possibly be worse?!?"

[Nye Bevan]

13. Would that include immersing a statue of the Prophet in urine? (nt)

[msongs]

14. weak spiritual concepts must resort to fear and punishment to achieve their aims nt

[Rex]

15. Good thing we spent trillions of dollars...

no, NOT a good thing.

[spanone]

17. sounds like something cheney would have endorsed

[Marrah_G]

28. some folks are detirmined to stay in the dark ages

[white_wolf]

45. I'm going to try and clarfiy my point...

Is Islam worse than Christianity right now? Yes, that can't be argued. However, I think people are making a mistake by blaming these problems on Islam itself. I don't think there is anything inherent in Islam that lends itself to this kind of behavior anymore than Christianity does. Most of the countries that have these problems with Islam also have problems with poverty, warfare, and oppressive governments. I think those three things likely have more of an impact than anything to do with Islam itself.

[badtoworse]

46. When you're in a hole, stop digging.

Really, you're just making it worse.

[white_wolf]

47. When you are ignorant, try learning. It helps.

Of course, I don't expect you to do that.

[riderinthestorm]

48. Kuwait has one of the highest GDPs in the world! They have a very low poverty rate, low unemployment

This law isn't because Kuwait is a backwards, poverty stricken, war plagued nation!

Sheez, look in the mirror before you call badtoworse ignorant....

[apocalypsehow]

49. "but I'm done with you all" - LOL. Guess not, hey? Laughable stuff. n/t.