I get what Obama is saying about the TPP.

[upaloopa]

The trade deal is good for educated Americans with good paying jobs. The rest of you are part of the past and old news.

[Thinkingabout]

1. I am waiting to see the complete treaty before making my decision.

I would like to see a good deal which is good for the US and if President Obama is correct and this trade agreement corrects the failures of past agreements then at least look at the final before writing the Tom Cotton letter.

[JaneyVee]

6. If they could work in a currency manipulation clause...

Then that most certainly would create a lot of jobs. But that's a big IF.

[okaawhatever]

9. That was one of the big goals and I believe it made it in. It was still listed on the gov't

website.

[Hoyt]

2. That's not what he's saying, and you know it or should.

[upaloopa]

3. Yes it is. I heard the interview on Tweetie's show

Tweetie asked him about the lost jobs and he said we are going to educate people for the jobs we have. He said we will export what we are good at which is IT and service. He said manufacturing jobs are replaced by machines and are not coming back.
Get a transcript if you don't believe me.

[JaneyVee]

5. Technology has killed plenty of jobs...

But it has also created plenty of jobs.

[PowerToThePeople]

13. I do not think it has created jobs.

There are some staff that take on new functionality to their job duties, cnc programming, etc but it does not create new dedicated full time work.

[Hoyt]

8. Do you think doing nothing is going to help? You really need to listen closer.

[upaloopa]

10. I don't understand what you are saying

to me.
I think I am beginning to understand what the TPP means to President Obama. For some people it will be a good thing, for others it will not.
I see it like the old idea of what happened to blacksmiths when cars replaced horses.
The TPP is good for future generations who can make it in the new era that is replacing the one we live in now. It is not so good for those who are not the "innovators" of the ideas we are going to export.
Older generations are left out of the benefits. It is also a way to block China from controlling trade in Asia.
That is what I got out of Obama's interview today.

[Hoyt]

11. I!m amazed that you would say screw future generations. I don't think older

generations are left out, and doing nothing is not going to help you.

Some day you will be on social security and maybe Medicaid and/or Medicare, and better hope the next generation is doing well because they will be the ones generating the funds to pay your benefits.

I get you feel you have been slighted, either because of challenges beyond your control or decisions you made. It is not going to improve by abandoning trade and looking for solutions.

The shame is that better wage laws and taxation could help you, but that is separate from trade agreements.

You know what they say about change...

[FreakinDJ]

4. You would be Wrong

Its only good for a few Wall St Execs and members of the Well Connected Wealthy Elite

[TheKentuckian]

7. That is correct! Educated in what for a nation of 350 million?

This line of crap always seems to be actually talking about hundreds of thousands to the low millions of possible positions.

This garbage is just to puff up the egos of some of the fatter chickens to make them think due they "built that" they are exempt from the slaughter.
Many of them working remotely doing nothing that special themselves just waiting to be replaced by a much cheaper "upwardly mobile" middle class drone half a world away.

[BreakfastClub]

12. These TPP posts are so reminiscent of the

criticism and dirt slung at Bill Clinton for NAFTA. Obama is the same as Bill Clinton when it comes to his politics. In fact, Obama is a bit more conservative on some issues than Bill. And Hillary Clinton is much more liberal than Obama on a few domestic issues. I do find it mildly entertaining to see how people are reacting to Obama being a moderate democrat and not the raging progressive lion that he was imagined to be.