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think

(11,641 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 03:54 PM Apr 2015

This entrepreneur wants to save the world, and he's getting worldwide attention


This entrepreneur wants to save the world, and he's getting worldwide attention


Lauren K. Ohnesorge - Staff Writer - Triangle Business Journal
April 17, 2015, 2:15pm EDT


It’s a Raleigh company at the center of worldwide speculation: Cold fusion research firm Industrial Heat.

This week, Tom Darden, CEO of Raleigh-based Cherokee and a co-founder of the startup, which aims to offer energy alternatives to coal, reiterates that Industrial Heat could save the world – and that he’s not afraid of losing money for the sake of research.

He told a group of scientists gathered for the International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science this week that we need to turn the car around – and quickly – in order to save the world from smog.

“Being ‘less bad’ is not being good,” he says. “It’s still being bad, just a little bit less so. If you are driving a car towards a cliff, it doesn’t help you to slow down – you need to turn around and go in a different direction.”

Full article:

http://upstart.bizjournals.com/companies/startups/2015/04/17/this-entrepreneur-wants-to-save-the-world-and-hes.html?page=all

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sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. I agree with him that ending dependence on fossil fuels is necessary, not sure that his solution
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 04:00 PM
Apr 2015

is the way to go. Would like to know more about it though.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
2. The process based on Cold Fusion is slowly gaining acceptance. One can go to E-catworld.com
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 04:29 PM
Apr 2015

to keep up on the events surrounding the science and industry.

http://www.e-catworld.com/

I don't have time to go into details today but Airbus in Europe, Elforsk (A Swedish Energy consortium) & the Royal Swedish Academy of Science have been actively involved with researching the potential for this energy source.

Up until 2 years ago the concept of LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction) / Cold Fusion was considered junk science and a scam. The recent peer review by the Royal Academy and the applications for patents of large companies like Airbus have helped bring legitimacy to the concept.

Hopefully we'll be hearing more soon!

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. I guess I'm wondering about waste from anything that involves nuclear power. And all the other
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 04:34 PM
Apr 2015

concerns we have regarding nuclear energy. Thanks for the link, maybe there are answers there.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Well, fusion is clean because it uses Hydrogen and other low mass atoms.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 06:17 PM
Apr 2015

The only radioactive issues are the neutrons emitted from the fusion reaction. It would be a really clean energy source, but it is damned difficult to accomplish.

The problem is... cold fusion is utter bunkum. One cannot fuse two nuclei without putting in rather large energy to overcome the nuclear forces which would tend to keep the nuclei apart. If one could accomplish that, the energy released would indeed be sufficiently larger to be exothermic (releases more energy than is consumed and thus a putatively good source for energy). But there is zero evidence that this happens at low temperatures. Furthermore, there is zero theoretical basis that says that it is even probable, let alone possible.

Cold fusion has already ruined the career of physicists (Google "Pons and Fleischmann&quot . Still, others keep queuing up, apparently wishing to ruin their own careers with this bollocks.

GreenWin

(3 posts)
7. Dear George Hody aka Mary Yugo aka Joshua Cude aka Al Potenza etc.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:02 AM
Apr 2015

Poor George has hissy fits when reading mainstream press accepting LENR. The facts are George has a poor grasp of nanoplasmonics and the MANY theories attempting to explain the Anomalous Heat Effect. However, as the topic post implies, Industrial Heat and partner Andrea Rossi are burning in a 1MW heat producing LENR plant for commercial purpose. They really don't care why mainstream science has failed to understand the effect. Their customer will see a 50% lower heating bill by the end of the burn-in period.

As to the science. The Italian government energy agency ENEA proved some kind of cold fusion way back in year 2000. Dr. Antoinella De Nino and her team of scientists proved the production of 4He in cold fusion experiments using deuterium in electrolytic cells. 4He is hard evidence of nuclear fusion of atoms. How or why is yet to be understood. But the evidence is annoying to outdated nuclear physics and so, the pathoskeptical world of George Hody et al, cover their eyes and ears.

The existence of the LENR effect is so compelling these days Japan has recently opened an officially sponsored laboratory/research center at Tohoku University to study and develop its use commercially. As has the Swedish energy consortium of commercial power producers Elforsk now named Eniforsk AB. We now have 25 years of evidence researched by U.S. government defense agencies DARPA (in cooperation with ENEA) SPAWAR (division of U.S. Navy), NASA Langley Research Center (Chief Scientist Dr. Dennis Bushnell) NASA GLENN (contracted with GE Aerospace, Boeing Research, Georgia Tech) the Naval Research Laboratory NRL, Stanford Research Institute, Defense Threat Reduction Agency DTRA, and research programs in India, Japan, Italy, Sweden, Finland, USA, France, Russia.

Recently the India Academy of Science published a peer reviewed Special Section on LENR including 30+ peer reviewed papers on the subject. You can read for yourself here -- http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/CurrentScience.pdf -- or do like George Hody, and bury your head in the sands of ignorance.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Nope, cold fusion is not gaining acceptance...
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 05:18 PM
Apr 2015

except by kooks and con men.

In order to fuse two atoms it takes energy enough to overcome the electroweak force. That just does not happen at low temperatures. The only ways humans have been able to do it is by either using an atomic bomb to get it started (an H bomb) or by expending a huge amount of energy to contain a very small reaction (Tokamak, ITER, National Ignition Facility, etc.).

Then, there are the kooks and con artists who claim it can be done on a desktop.

We will not likely hear anything sooner or later about these things, because nuclear fusion just does not happen at low energies. Ask any physicist.

Response to longship (Reply #4)

GreenWin

(3 posts)
13. You mean e.g. TWO Nobel laureates?? and 400+ other physicists??
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:42 PM
Apr 2015

Mr. "Longship" seems to be ignorant of the lengthy number of PhDs who believe there is more than enough evidence to confirm the Anomalous Heat Effect aka LENR or Low Energy Nuclear Reactions??

Check out the "physicists" on this short list - http://www.lenrproof.com/slide_05.html

BTW Mr. Longship, are you aware the "longest" ships in the world are... oil tankers???

longship

(40,416 posts)
14. First, there is no personal authority in science.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 12:50 AM
Apr 2015

The science as a whole is its own authority. But individual people have no authority. Examples are fairly abundant, eg, Linus Pauling and vitamin C.

And your ad hominem about my screen name is idiotic. I am Norwegian and Finn, hence of Viking heritage, whose ships were termed longships.

I will stand with the science so far that cold fusion is bollocks.

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
9. The road to hell is paved by "entrepreneurs" that promised free energy.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:20 AM
Apr 2015

and only delivered to their bank accounts.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
12. Cold fusion skeptics: would the chemical effects be enough to make this worth pursuing?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:19 PM
Apr 2015

In other words, would the excess heat, most likely due to things other than fusion, be enough to scale up the effect into something economically viable?


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