What are the "secrets" in the TPP ??

[kentuck]

No one can honestly evaluate what is in the agreement if it is done in secret. That is a fact.

What could be in the agreement that our President and the Chamber of Commerce do not want the people to know? We can only guess.

My guess is that the "tax breaks" for moving jobs overseas will remain.

There is no doubt that America makes a lot of small gadgets and large gadgets, from small appliances to fighter jets, that others around the world want to buy. The President and other supporters of this agreement tell us that this benefits "small businesses" more than anyone else.

However, if that is true, and small businesses are selling their products overseas, what is to keep them from renting a small shop in China or wherever the people like their product? Would they not save a lot of money on labor alone? Much more than would be needed to rent or build a place to manufacture? And are they prevented from moving their small jobs overseas? And do they continue to write it all off as a business expense? And they do not have OSHA or environmental rules to obey?

These are the same questions Democrats have had about all the other trade treaties that have been negotiated. Is this TPP really any different? We don't know because it is all done in secret.

[KMOD]

2. Are all trade deals done in secret, or

just this one?

[Luminous Animal]

4. The first draft of the FTAA was released to the public in 2001 with a deadline

of a 2005 ratification.

[pampango]

3. As opposed to all other international agreements which are negotiated out in the open?

Should we refuse to negotiate with other countries unless they agree to do it openly? Do we ignore international problems unless other countries agree to hold public negotiations? Or do we just go with unilateral American action to deal with global problems?

[kentuck]

6. Are you saying the people do not have the right to know what is in secret agreements??

We. Us.

[randome]

10. In a Democracy, the people elect representatives.

You, kentuck, do not get to vote on every single proposal, law, regulation or treaty that concerns this country.

Neither do I.
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[kentuck]

13. Are you suggesting that our "representatives" have been given the secrets?

Who's representing whom??

[randome]

14. Of course our representatives are representing us.

They may be doing it poorly but that's a different matter. Being in charge of something does not mean micro-managing it.

Obama is our representative, too. It is the President's duty to negotiate treaties like this. Congress gets the final say in it. That's how it works.
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[pampango]

15. Before they are ratified, they certainly have that right. n/t

[Maedhros]

5. The biggest secret they are trying to keep

is how thoroughly the TPP will screw American workers.

[rock]

7. What's in the poke that the pig is in?

It's like Shrodinger's cat: you know the truth (spin) if you look .

[KamaAina]

8. Only this guy knows.

[CK_John]

9. The secret is we think that 300 million can tell 5 Billion people than must buy our stuff.

[bigwillq]

11. That Obama was really born in Kenya

and his birth certificate was burned in a Muslim Ritual Ceremony.

[LordGlenconner]

12. Zoinks! Let's find out.