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Vattel

(9,289 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:06 PM Apr 2015

Videographer says Freddy Gray was "folded up" like "origami."

Moore said he found his friend handcuffed, "screaming for his life," and planted face down on the ground with one Baltimore bicycle police officer's knee on his neck and the other bicycle officer bending his legs backward so that Gray's heels were in his back .

"They had him folded up like he was a crab or a piece of origami. He was all bent up," Moore said.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-video-moore-20150423-story.html

I am very skeptical about the claim that Gray suffered his injuries in the van, but we shall see.

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AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
1. I hope this does not end up with no justice served as In Eric Garner life lost and so very very
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:08 PM
Apr 2015

Many others!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. The nation's police forces are extremely poorly trained
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:15 PM
Apr 2015

Many of them are terrible at their jobs, a fault of their own lack of initiative, their poor training by equally incompetent supervisors, and a general culture of impunity for which being really, really bad at a job makes no difference. If train operators or elevator inspectors were as bad at their jobs, on average, as the police in this country, there would be daily catastrophes.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
3. He may have suffered injuries prior
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:16 PM
Apr 2015

Which I believe is the case. They should have called an ambulance. But I'm thinking he slid in that van and maybe when they went to get him out, his head may have been wedged and they pulled him to get him out of the van. There's no question he was injured prior to the van trip.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
6. Good point. He could have suffered injuries before and during the trip in the van.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:40 PM
Apr 2015

I guess the way he is screaming and the limpness of his legs as he is taken to the van and the claim that an officer had a knee on his neck as he was arrested all suggest to me that even his neck injury may well have occurred prior to entering the van. But I don't pretend to know for sure, of course.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
4. I agree and said earlier
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:31 PM
Apr 2015

The spinal cord injury could have come when he was taken down and displaced in the van.

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