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patricia92243

(12,594 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:35 AM Apr 2015

Your Bra May be Killing You

Your Bra May Be Killing You – Scientists Call For Boycott Of Komen
Boycott Komen Over Bra?

The problem with bras, according to medical anthropologists Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer, is that they restrict the flow of lymphatic fluid, thereby retaining toxins in the breast that have nowhere to go. They compare it to the feet and ankle swelling that occurs on long flights, because the lymphatic fluid pools in the lower extremities and isn’t allowed to circulate.

Singer and Grismaijer, co-authors of Dressed To Kill: The Link Between Breast Cancer and Bras, say that wearing a bra more than 12 hours a day dramatically increases the risk of getting breast cancer. A woman who wears a bra 24/7 is 125 times more likely to develop breast cancer than a woman who rarely or never wears a bra. Those who sleep in their bra, they found, have a 75% chance of developing breast cancer at some point in their lives.

Harvard did a study in 1991 that showed greatly increased incidence in breast cancer in those who wear bras over those who don’t.


Sleeping Without Bra May Reduce Breast Cancer
Even limiting the wearing of tight bras can make a difference. Women who wear a bra more than 12 hours, but not to bed, have an one in seven risk of breast cancer, but wearing it less than 12 hours reduces her risk to one in 152, while cutting it out completely carries a one in 168 risk. Midwife Lisa Goldstein recommends that women take off the bra when they get home and massage the tissue that has been compressed to get the lymphatic fluids flowing properly.

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This sure makes sense to me - fluid not circulating, etc.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1202191/your-bra-may-be-killing-you-scientists-call-for-boycott-of-komen/

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Your Bra May be Killing You (Original Post) patricia92243 Apr 2015 OP
Utterly debunked by actual scientists...not "medical anthropologists." msanthrope Apr 2015 #1
Thanks for this. Much more to consider here. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #4
Good to debunk the woo! Thanks, msanthrope! backscatter712 Apr 2015 #11
Five seconds on google. Five. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #12
Thanks! I was about to whip my bra off in the middle of the restaurant nt justiceischeap Apr 2015 #17
Was it an Olive Garden? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #60
Close, Red Lobster. nt justiceischeap Apr 2015 #65
Wow, Komen is such a joke. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #2
Komen is a joke, but this pure woo. msanthrope Apr 2015 #6
Medical anthropologists? Brickbat Apr 2015 #3
I was putting more credence in the '91 Harvard Study. Haven't looked at it yet, but will. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #5
That's been debunked as well. Brickbat Apr 2015 #7
The wikipedia page on the two authors is a laugh riot..... msanthrope Apr 2015 #8
So infuriating that they keep getting attention. Brickbat Apr 2015 #9
breast density & obesity might be related to longer bra wearing zazen Apr 2015 #10
Could you please provide a link for this information? blue neen Apr 2015 #13
Here you go: patricia92243 Apr 2015 #55
What a bunch of losers wishing to be seen as experts AZ Progressive Apr 2015 #14
My bra has been killing me for decades. LWolf Apr 2015 #15
I hate'em fadedrose Apr 2015 #16
I think I'm one of the few who feel more comfortable in one. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #24
Perhaps you need a different bra size.. Feron Apr 2015 #40
Er... LWolf Apr 2015 #68
Regardless of studies, not every woman can go braless. Beacool Apr 2015 #18
There are sleeping bras, but I think they are... Hepburn Apr 2015 #20
I've heard of them. Beacool Apr 2015 #47
I've been wear camisole tops to bed JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #32
I'm a D cup too. Beacool Apr 2015 #46
DD here PasadenaTrudy Apr 2015 #49
It's a good brand. Beacool Apr 2015 #63
Not TMI at all. There is no need for panties at bedtime. 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #56
Yep, I agree. Beacool Apr 2015 #62
I just wash my PJs frequently. Can't stand double layers. 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #66
I guess that some do and some don't. Beacool Apr 2015 #70
Try being very full busted and having a cracked rib... Hepburn Apr 2015 #19
It is so bizarre. It is all based on societal expectation. Why is it my daughter who is young and liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #21
where did you find the link to the article? I don't see one in the OP or anywhere else? nt magical thyme Apr 2015 #34
Who'd wear a bra 24/7? vankuria Apr 2015 #22
I do. And have worn a bra 24/7 for 40 years. RebelOne Apr 2015 #26
You should take it off and wash it once in a while jberryhill Apr 2015 #29
except for showering Skittles Apr 2015 #50
I do. Feron Apr 2015 #41
Hear, hear. Beacool Apr 2015 #48
I am a 44 DD. I wear a bra, 24/7. Not the same one, mind you. nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #61
I'm all for setting the girls free. My wife, however... Telcontar Apr 2015 #23
Link? I'm pretty sure you didn't write this yourself, MineralMan Apr 2015 #25
This is "woo" and doesn't belong in GD. But the woo came from one of these links... MADem Apr 2015 #27
Yes, I know. I was hoping the OP would post the link MineralMan Apr 2015 #30
Looks like a Post-And-Run thread...no interaction at all by the thread starter to this point. nt MADem Apr 2015 #33
This kind of bogus health stuff is the bane of my existence. MineralMan Apr 2015 #36
Clickbait crap, the internet is full of it. It is frustrating to see garbage passed on. nt MADem Apr 2015 #44
Sorry - I corrected it at the bottom of the post. patricia92243 Apr 2015 #57
It may or may not be harmful to wear a bra, but bras DO cause BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #28
My bra doesn't constrict my breasts. yardwork Apr 2015 #31
Did this study compare underwires with non-underwires? LeftInTX Apr 2015 #35
The study is bogus, and has been completely discredited. MineralMan Apr 2015 #37
I know LeftInTX Apr 2015 #38
That's beside the point. MineralMan Apr 2015 #39
did anyone else alert on this thread ? JI7 Apr 2015 #42
It did. 6-1 to leave. MineralMan Apr 2015 #45
According to this, dgibby Apr 2015 #43
good, cause i hate them shanti Apr 2015 #51
Me, too. As soon as I walk in the door I take the thing off. Vinca Apr 2015 #53
Me, too. Shoes first, then the bra. 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #58
I gave up on underwires the day I tried one on. Torture devices! Vinca Apr 2015 #69
I always get a headache when I read about nonspecific "toxins" like this Scootaloo Apr 2015 #52
They should have checked actual research before they pull this one of of their butts Warpy Apr 2015 #54
This may be woo but any excuse will do. Laffy Kat Apr 2015 #59
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #64
in the past a post like this would get the phrase.. this thread useless without pictures dembotoz Apr 2015 #67
Good! I hate wearing bras kydo Apr 2015 #71

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
2. Wow, Komen is such a joke.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:39 AM
Apr 2015

I'll be sure to pass this information on to all of the women in my life.

Unfortunately, my sister is fighting a very, rare and aggressive form of breast cancer (stage IV) and she is very, very young (with 3 little ones).

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
3. Medical anthropologists?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:40 AM
Apr 2015

M-hm.

This team also recommends sleeping with a tilted bed to avoid Alzheimer's.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
10. breast density & obesity might be related to longer bra wearing
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015

And obesity is higher in non-Caucasian first-world populations, who have much higher rates of high stage cancers.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
15. My bra has been killing me for decades.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 12:55 PM
Apr 2015

I don't know about fluid retention; I sleep without a bra and don't wear one at home.

I know that smooshing them into containment and carrying all that weight around on those straps has negatively affected my back. I know that the constant inflamation of the thoracic area...40 years worth of constant, 24/7 inflammation, has had a negative effect on the quality of life.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
16. I hate'em
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:02 PM
Apr 2015

Off with the damned thing any time it's not needed.

It's only needed with some clothing that is tailored to wear with a bra, the rest of the time it doesn't matter.

Even in winter with a heavy coat, I sometimes don't wear one out when I know I will not be taking the coat off.

I did switch to a larger bra for comfort, which means that slightly smaller cups are needed without the compression.




 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
24. I think I'm one of the few who feel more comfortable in one.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:22 PM
Apr 2015

I hate underwires and don't wear them, but a nice supportive sports bra -- yes please. I'm somewhat "endowed" and I don't like going braless if I'm not in bed.

Feron

(2,063 posts)
40. Perhaps you need a different bra size..
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 03:07 PM
Apr 2015

Instructions on how to measure:
http://www.sizemapp.com/en/tutorial

And an online calculator:
http://www.brasizecalculator.tk

Here's also a subreddit that may be of some help:

http://www.reddit.com/r/abrathatfits

In addition, I usually get my bras from ebay because larger sizes are a lot cheaper there than they are in stores (typically).

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
68. Er...
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:17 PM
Apr 2015

After 44 years of bra wearing, measuring and trying every bra that might do a better job than the previous bra, I'm pretty sure I know my size. It's a 40 DDD.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
18. Regardless of studies, not every woman can go braless.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:45 PM
Apr 2015

The only women who could skip a bra altogether are those with small breasts. For some of us who are a C cup or above, a bra is a necessity. I wear one, but not in bed. I don't know many women who wear a bra to bed, it's uncomfortable.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
20. There are sleeping bras, but I think they are...
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:00 PM
Apr 2015

...just a way some manufacturers found to make money when most women in their right minds would NOT be wearing a bra!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
47. I've heard of them.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:28 PM
Apr 2015

I just fail to see the need of wearing a bra to bed. I rather the girls be free for a few hours. LOL!!

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
32. I've been wear camisole tops to bed
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

Since I was a teenager - and you are right on cup size braless. I'm a full 34 D - I'm not going anywhere without the girls secured.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
46. I'm a D cup too.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:25 PM
Apr 2015

I wouldn't dream of walking around in public without a bra. Particularly at work, it would be too embarrassing. When one is well endowed, it's all about having good support. Flimsy bras won't do.

TMI time, I tend to wear nightgowns to bed (unless it's extremely cold, then I will wear a pair of pajamas) because I prefer to sleep with no panties. They tend to hike and give me a wedgie while I'm asleep.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
56. Not TMI at all. There is no need for panties at bedtime.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:34 PM
Apr 2015

Everyone should go commando at night to allow a bit of ventilation to body parts that can't air out any other time. It's healthier.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
62. Yep, I agree.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 06:16 PM
Apr 2015

That's why I wear nightgowns. If I wear pajamas I keep the panties on because IMO it's not hygienic otherwise.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
66. I just wash my PJs frequently. Can't stand double layers.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 07:31 PM
Apr 2015

Do men wear underpants under pajama pants, or is that just a woman thing? I know a lot of men just sleep in their underwear.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
70. I guess that some do and some don't.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 09:43 PM
Apr 2015

In my experience, most sleep in a t-shirt and shorts or pajamas bottoms, depending on the weather.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
19. Try being very full busted and having a cracked rib...
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 01:58 PM
Apr 2015

...right where the bottom of the bra hits on the left side.

I was in total pain yesterday even with a "soft" bra when I had to leave the house for an appointment. Bras are torture machines. There is no other way to explain it. I wish I did not have to wear one, but at my age and size, I have no choice.

Note: I sent this article to every woman on my email list and to hubbies and boyfriends with a request to pass the article along when I did not have an email addie to use for the female.

Great article...thanks!

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
21. It is so bizarre. It is all based on societal expectation. Why is it my daughter who is young and
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:02 PM
Apr 2015

thin can walk around with no bra, but I cannot because I am older and heavier? I think I am going to try an act of bravery, go to the store, buy me a camisole, and try walking around with just a camisole under my shirt.

vankuria

(904 posts)
22. Who'd wear a bra 24/7?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:09 PM
Apr 2015

Regardless of this article, I hate wearing a bra and do so out of necessity. I'd never go without but do sometimes wear a sports bra, especially in the summer. By about 7pm, I've had enough and whip it off so my "girls" can breathe!

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
26. I do. And have worn a bra 24/7 for 40 years.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:28 PM
Apr 2015

I never wanted sagging breasts and wearing a bra 24/7 has kept that from happening.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
29. You should take it off and wash it once in a while
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:41 PM
Apr 2015

I think even the Mormons take off their underwear for that.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
48. Hear, hear.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:36 PM
Apr 2015

The "girls" do need to breath.

Actually, I tolerate bras, but I despise nylon stockings with a passion. Stockings make my legs itch and they get a run almost immediately. I only wear them when I'm wearing a suit or when the outfit absolutely requires it. Which means that in public no one sees my legs until late spring. I wear dress pants to work until I can wear longer, flowing skirts and sandals in warm weather.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
25. Link? I'm pretty sure you didn't write this yourself,
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:27 PM
Apr 2015

so a link to the source where you found it is essential. Below, several people have said that this is false and has been debunked. So, where did you find it?

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
30. Yes, I know. I was hoping the OP would post the link
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:41 PM
Apr 2015

where she found it, though. It appears to be all over the place on alternative health sites, blogs, and other places that don't bother to fact-check anything they post.

Since the poster hasn't bothered to return to the thread, though, I suppose it was just a dump-and-go post.

I'm certain it has been alerted on, but a jury left it to stink up the joint. Uff da!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. Looks like a Post-And-Run thread...no interaction at all by the thread starter to this point. nt
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:45 PM
Apr 2015

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
36. This kind of bogus health stuff is the bane of my existence.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

People read it on some blog or health food website, and go around spreading false information wherever they go. Then, others have to point out that the information is worthless garbage, but posts like this one still get likes and are reposted again and again. I suppose it sells books for the authors, but it does much harm at the same time.

Scary false health articles piss me off.

yardwork

(61,585 posts)
31. My bra doesn't constrict my breasts.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:44 PM
Apr 2015

If your bra does this, it probably isn't the correct size. Go to a good department store and get a professional fitting, then invest in high quality bras. It's worth it.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
35. Did this study compare underwires with non-underwires?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:47 PM
Apr 2015

Because I will look for anything to get underwires banned. (Even if it is BS) I'm not very big, but according to the bra industry I am. The bra industry seems to feel that the larger the bust the more they need underwires. (Gotta hold them up with metal that digs into them) - UGH

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
37. The study is bogus, and has been completely discredited.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 02:54 PM
Apr 2015

Read the entire thread, please. The original post should not have been made. It is simply incorrect.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
42. did anyone else alert on this thread ?
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 03:15 PM
Apr 2015

i see it's been up for hours so did it pass jury ?

also no link from the OP

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
45. It did. 6-1 to leave.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:20 PM
Apr 2015

I made a later alert and got those results in response.

I guess people can post any damned fool thing they find on the Internet in GD, whether it is true or not.

The OP seems to have posted and gone somewhere else. I wouldn't expect a link, but the same story is posted all over the Internet, on all sorts of strange blogs and alternative health websites. Typical.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
43. According to this,
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 04:05 PM
Apr 2015

I should be long dead by now. I wear a comfortable sports bra 24/7, and I'll be 70 years old this year. What a crock!

shanti

(21,675 posts)
51. good, cause i hate them
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:15 PM
Apr 2015

and being retired now, rarely wear one, never to bed (gah!), and when i have to, it's very lightweight and unconstructed. basically, NO support. i'm not small, so they sag, meh. they would after nursing 4 babies...doing what they were made for.

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
58. Me, too. Shoes first, then the bra.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:46 PM
Apr 2015

I once attended a "bra party" - can't remember what company. The young salesperson was somewhat unkempt and frowsy. When she was explaining how wonderful these bras were, and how well they fit, she said that they would initially fit so snugly that there could be bruising for a few days.

Bruising??!!!!! From your bra? No, thank you. It was not a selling point.

Count me among those who find underwires to be instruments of torture. I am on the slender side, and they rub right on my ribs, which hurts.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. I always get a headache when I read about nonspecific "toxins" like this
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

it's kinda like all the rampage about "Chemicals™"

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
54. They should have checked actual research before they pull this one of of their butts
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 05:27 PM
Apr 2015

because people have really researched this stuff and found out that the medical anthropologists are exactly wrong.

As usual.

Laffy Kat

(16,376 posts)
59. This may be woo but any excuse will do.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 06:09 PM
Apr 2015

Hate, hate, hate bras. They are uncomfortable and unnatural-feeling. I still wear one to work, but it comes off as soon as I get home.

Response to patricia92243 (Original post)

dembotoz

(16,796 posts)
67. in the past a post like this would get the phrase.. this thread useless without pictures
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 07:40 PM
Apr 2015

Not sure if I am happy due seems to have outgrown this...
Always one for tradition

kydo

(2,679 posts)
71. Good! I hate wearing bras
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:34 PM
Apr 2015

Always have hated it and I usually don't wear one when I am home. Now I have justification to go bra less!

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