Warren to Obama: Stop making 'untrue' trade claims

[kentuck]

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/240068-warren-to-obama-stop-making-untrue-trade-claims

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Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) told President Obama on Saturday he was making “untrue” claims about his opponents — including herself.

The feud between Obama and the left continued Saturday, when Warren and Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) called on the president to immediately declassify the negotiating terms of a pending trade deal with a host of nations known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
In an effort to push through trade legislation that would help finalize the deal, Obama has blasted critics on the left, saying they are “wrong” and “don’t know what they’re talking about.”

Liberal critics of the trade deal have griped that the terms have not been made public, arguing it amounts to a secret deal hammered out by other nations with influence from huge corporations.

....more at link

[Autumn]

1. It's getting interesting. I looked around this morning to see if Hillary has

weighed in on all this mess, didn't find anything.

[daleanime]

7. Please, I have a weak heart.....

the surprise of Hillary making a definitive statement about this might finish me.

[Jackpine Radical]

25. Hillary HAS weighed in.

She put forth a bold proposal that we think about having a conversation on how we might begin approaching a consensus of everyday Americans on this issue and find a win-win solution for all the stakeholders.

[daleanime]

27. Safe!

[Dragonfli]

33. She is rightfully only thinking about herself because

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[billhicks76]

36. Talk About A Cop Out

She doesn't want to say anything because she completely supports screwing over the American People....again....just like NAFTA. Just like wars abroad and wars at home. How people can be so foolish to excuse and apologize for her is, frankly, nauseating. Let's elect a liberal. Conservatives belong in the Republican Party.

[Jackpine Radical]

44. Don't say "cop."

She hasn't taken a position on any of that yet.

[L0oniX]

9. She will do the usual and hold up her finger in the air.

[raindaddy]

13. No the Hillary ......

Is still carefully considering whether she agrees with the Republicans and the global corporations or the progressives that she's claiming she's one of.

[Jackpine Radical]

45. "Progressive"

as in Progressive Policy Institute.

And Democratic like the Democratic Republic of North Korea.

[raindaddy]

46. Right, who says the Democratic party has to have any traditional populist values?

How pragmatic, and clever, third way Democrats can rake in the corporate and Wall Street cash, campaign as populists and then govern like a moderate Republican.

[Helen Borg]

18. I found this.

[ananda]

2. Human and socially concerned critics of the deal ...

versus inhuman corporate tools who are touting it.

[kentuck]

3. Democrats need to turn their attention to Republicans that are voting for this...

With a majority of Democrats voting against it, they will not need many Republicans to defeat it. But that may be difficult to do.

Just let them know that it will be an issue in their re-election attempts.

[jeff47]

39. Yeah, Republicans will totally turn against corporations.

Why, I remember the last time they did so....I think it was about 1909.

[Jack Rabbit]

4. K/R

[fasttense]

5. Just like Obama's push to reform and decrease Social Security payouts

(You know Chain CPI and we all have to tighten our belts)

Obama is on the side of the RepubliCONS on this deal.

And he wonders why we liberals don't like it.

[uponit7771]

6. Is this another thread claiming Obama said something he didn't? FUD is busy making Warren fringe

[L0oniX]

8. It's not like this is a national security issue ...maybe it is for the fucking mega corporations.

[daleanime]

10. K&R.....

[raindaddy]

15. Exactly...

He was so agreeable with the republicans, always willing to find middle ground, even on the Bush tax cuts and social security..

But he can't seem to muster up the goodwill when it comes to his own party.

[erronis]

23. Bravo. Tell us why you can't be transparent. Let us understand why your hands are tied.

[MissDeeds]

12. Big K&R

Keep fighting for that "transparency in government".

[AzDar]

14. K & R

[Enthusiast]

16. K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations!

I love this woman!

[Populist_Prole]

19. Well here's one more

For visibility and to keep the pressure on the turd-way types

[polichick]

17. Candidate Obama was all about transparency.

[SoapBox]

20. "...feud between Obama and the left...

Soooooooo, he really isn't on the left!

[bigwillq]

21. K and R

[WillyT]

22. K & R !!!

[blkmusclmachine]

24. Remember when Obama said he was "against" Citizens United???

I think he meant he was against citizens, united.

[KG]

26. she never loved him anyway!

( i'd love to know the etymology of that meme)

[Buns_of_Fire]

28. This whole deal has accomplished ONE thing.

It's gotten the entire party (those who even know what a "TPP" *IS*), at each other's throats.

The way I figure it, if all 300 million or so of you out there -- Democrats, republicans, and Independents -- would just do the reasonable thing and agree with ME, I think we can settle this pretty quickly.

[JaneyVee]

29. I have a bad feeling Liz may not win her next election.

She's a great senator but Mass just elected a Repub governor and her opposition to Obama will alienate a large voting bloc demographic which Repubs will immediately seize on. She didn't beat Scott 'nut job' Brown by all that much. I hope voters turn out for her.

[cui bono]

30. I believe the opposite will happen.

The people can see she is the one on their side and will turn out in droves to vote for her.

[rhett o rick]

34. Her opposition is to the policies that Pres Obama is pushing that will harm

the 99%. I think most Americans will understand. Pres Obama wants to give corporations unlimited power, while Sen Warren speaks for the common people.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership Could Ban "Buy American" and
"Buy Local" Procurement Preferences

From the workers who manufacture the materials to upgrade America’s bridges and highways to those who build the cars driven by our government officials, Buy American creates U.S. jobs by recycling U.S. tax dollars back into our economy. Buy American policies require that most federal government purchases of goods go to American firms, unless a product is not made here or the U.S. product is much more expensive. Buy American is supported by four out of five U.S. voters – Republicans, Democrats and independents alike.

http://www.exposethetpp.org/TPPImpacts_BuyLocal.html

Call your Congress-Critters now and tell them to vote no on Fast Track and the TPP.

[jeff47]

40. Yes, MA elections have absolutely nothing to do with the candidates in those elections.

Coakley is terrible at campaigning. She was the one who put Scott Brown in the Senate with her terrible campaign.

Shockingly, she lost the race for Governor too.

[bvar22]

42. AS hard as this is for you to believe,

a handful of our elected representatives have a personal priority to Do-the-right-thing,
and damn the next election.

[NaturalHigh]

31. I'm with Senator Warren on this one.

[Thespian2]

32. K & R, hugely !!!!!!!!!!

Warren wins every time...could be because she tells the truth...

[FairWinds]

35. This is how you call out an unprincipled opponent . .

while keeping to the high road -

'We respectfully suggest,' reads a letter from Sens. Warren and Sherrod Brown to President Obama, 'that characterizing the assessments of labor unions, journalists, Members of Congress, and others who disagree with your approach to transparency on trade issues as 'dishonest' is both untrue and unlikely to serve the best interests of the American people.'

Obama had better be able to back up his claim of "dishonest." That is a very serious charge to make.

Glad I gave Sherrod a few bucks (I don't have much).

Veterans For Peace

[sabrina 1]

37. The Democrats are RIGHT and good for her for refusing to be intimidated.

Her job is to represent Americans, not Foreign Corporations.

Sherrod Brown was dismissed for over a year by this administration when he wanted to get something straight with them.

That is just unacceptable.

This whole thing is mind boggling. What is he thinking?

[Scuba]

38. Not true this is "a secret deal hammered out by other nations with influence from huge corporations"

It's a secret deal hammered out by huge corporations with little or no influence from nations.

[SusanCalvin]

43. Bingo nt

[freebrew]

41. So, now Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren are Leftists?

Damn, wonder what label they'll give the REAL left?

WTF? Does no one think anymore?