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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:50 PM May 2012

PROOF that the Financial Industry is TERRIFIED of Obama

I had been thinking that President Obama has been lax on the financial industry, but I was wrong.

Turns out they're actually terrified of his Administration: in fact, financial fraud has dropped to new lows! See this striking chart of prosecutions of financial institutions for fraud:



Looking at the chart, we see that financial institutions ran wild under Clinton, started getting scared under Bush, and now are absolutely under Obama's thumb - financial fraud is down more than 50% today!



Thanks to ThinkProgress for setting me straight!

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PROOF that the Financial Industry is TERRIFIED of Obama (Original Post) MannyGoldstein May 2012 OP
Thanks ProSense May 2012 #1
And kept dropping every year for 11 straight years MannyGoldstein May 2012 #4
The trend toward honesty in the financial markets is emphasized even more with this graph.. Fumesucker May 2012 #2
I think it's the pot smokers MannyGoldstein May 2012 #5
Where is Harry Anslinger now that we really need him? Fumesucker May 2012 #10
More detailed ProSense May 2012 #15
See, America is awash in an ocean of crime.. Fumesucker May 2012 #18
ugh! DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #3
Actually, I was being sarcastic MannyGoldstein May 2012 #8
You are right... it's just so hard to tell these days DontTreadOnMe May 2012 #29
Just because a crime is committed doesn't follow that it is also prosecuted. Selatius May 2012 #6
Stephen Colbert, is that you? randome May 2012 #7
No, it's not. Not even fucking close...nt SidDithers May 2012 #9
It's Colbert-ish hyperbole. randome May 2012 #11
How is it hyperbole? Fumesucker May 2012 #12
hyperbole is the word tossed around when their argument sucks Skittles May 2012 #30
I see what you did there. GeorgeGist May 2012 #36
You don't bribe a politician to break the law. rrneck May 2012 #13
Yay! Another anti-Obama screed by Manny! Yay! scheming daemons May 2012 #14
It doesn't look anti-Obama to me... Fumesucker May 2012 #16
Manny's being sarcastic... his angle is that scheming daemons May 2012 #17
"We all know that Wall Street crime hasn't decreased" MannyGoldstein May 2012 #20
Because those sorts of prosecutions are hard, Manny.. Fumesucker May 2012 #21
They may be pot-smoking cancer grannies, but MannyGoldstein May 2012 #22
Obviously because Obama hates America, Manny... scheming daemons May 2012 #23
Seems like you don't want to answer the question. nt MannyGoldstein May 2012 #24
I already did scheming daemons May 2012 #25
I don't think that's a serious answer. nt MannyGoldstein May 2012 #27
It is clear that your goal on this site is to turn people against Obama scheming daemons May 2012 #33
+1...nt SidDithers May 2012 #34
Lol! whatchamacallit May 2012 #19
To every season NashvilleLefty May 2012 #26
See, there's the "Obama is powerless" meme showing up once again.. Fumesucker May 2012 #31
Glad to see you've finally come to reason gratuitous May 2012 #28
Yeah, the finance industry is soooo scared of Obama MadHound May 2012 #32
TERRIFIED DURec. KG May 2012 #35
I blame Eric Holder magical thyme May 2012 #37

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
2. The trend toward honesty in the financial markets is emphasized even more with this graph..
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:53 PM
May 2012

As you can see, prosecutions for everything except financial fraud are climbing, clearly the financial industry has a record of morality that the rest of society would do well to emulate.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. See, America is awash in an ocean of crime..
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:18 PM
May 2012

All except for the financial industry..

They really are the Masters of the Universe due to their impeccable morals.



 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
3. ugh!
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:54 PM
May 2012

So PROSECUTIONS are down 50%... has no correlation to the amount of ACTUAL CRIMES COMMITTED.

If a banker commits a crime in the woods, and the prosecutor is not around... did it happen?... oh forget it.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
8. Actually, I was being sarcastic
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:58 PM
May 2012

But I do recognize that things are so weird these days that reality and fiction are tough to tell apart!

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
29. You are right... it's just so hard to tell these days
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:43 AM
May 2012

US Media is just so full of total bullshit these days

Selatius

(20,441 posts)
6. Just because a crime is committed doesn't follow that it is also prosecuted.
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:56 PM
May 2012

If you have a police force without enough resources to handle the work, it's very easy for the division to fall behind on all the new crime being committed out there. The NLRB is a prime example. They're split into two divisions, one that enforces labor laws against corporations and businesses and the other that enforces laws against labor unions and workers who break the law. Under George W. Bush, you can guess which division got more funding. Looking at their prosecution rates, you'd think labor unions were just as bad as corporations as far as breaking the law when, in truth, labor unions in the US have never been weaker.

It could easily be that the drop in the prosecution of financial fraud is due to a lack of resources at the appropriate criminal divisions at the FBI and Justice Departments, and we're in a recession where the government is running deep deficits.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. It's Colbert-ish hyperbole.
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:04 PM
May 2012

Except it's meant to TRULY put the President in a bad light, instead of Colbert's deliberate fakery to highlight the Republican agenda.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. How is it hyperbole?
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012

Financial fraud prosecutions are dropping because the financial industry as a whole is becoming more moral..

What other logical explanation could there be with a Democrat in the White House?

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
30. hyperbole is the word tossed around when their argument sucks
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:54 AM
May 2012

P.S. you really need to re-analyze the orgininal post

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. It doesn't look anti-Obama to me...
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:15 PM
May 2012

Clearly the financial industry has cleaned up its act under Obama..

How is that a bad thing?

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
17. Manny's being sarcastic... his angle is that
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:18 PM
May 2012

the number of prosecutions under Obama is way down. That's the information he wants out there.


Only Manny believes it is because Obama isn't willing to prosecute...... but he's sarcastically framing it as the prosecutions going down because the crimes have gone down.


We all know that Wall Street crime hasn't decreased... So Manny is hoping it leads you, dear reader, to the conclusion that Obama is soft on Wall Streeters.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
20. "We all know that Wall Street crime hasn't decreased"
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:49 PM
May 2012

So... why is it that prosecutions have plummeted?

Puzzling.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
21. Because those sorts of prosecutions are hard, Manny..
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

I mean some of those Wall Street types aren't even using public defenders, how can we expect US attorneys to go after people who have real lawyers?

Far more prudent to prosecute cancer grannies for smoking pot, they don't have the resources to fight back.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
22. They may be pot-smoking cancer grannies, but
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:27 PM
May 2012

they are felons, mister. Hardened criminals that should not be free to prowl our streets.

Some operate their scooters while impaired.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
25. I already did
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:33 PM
May 2012

I capitulated to you, Manny.


Obviously, Obama is evil and must be destroyed.


You've finally converted me. You should be happy.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
33. It is clear that your goal on this site is to turn people against Obama
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:28 AM
May 2012

I am telling you that you have succeeded.

Good work. You're very good at it.

NashvilleLefty

(811 posts)
26. To every season
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:48 PM
May 2012

Turn! Turn! Turn!
There is a reason
Turn! Turn! Turn!

Manny, I'm really sorry that Obama didn't have a "magic wand" that could make all of your personal dreams come true. But this is the Real World. Are you going to blame Obama for only being Human?

We know where the problem was - Republicans TOLD us that they would oppose Obama and all DEMOCRATS at every step. It's not difficult, because they TOLD us this is what they would do.

I feel your anger, and it is justified. But it is misdirected.

Please direct your anger towards those that REALLY deserve it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
31. See, there's the "Obama is powerless" meme showing up once again..
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:13 AM
May 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002650368

Prosecutions fall under the executive branch of the government, a branch under the control of Obama as the chief executive, the US Attorneys are appointed by and answer to Obama, not the Republicans.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
28. Glad to see you've finally come to reason
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:16 AM
May 2012

Congratulations. Now, if you'd just get over that unnatural attachment to quaint old documents, everything would be, oh, just as right as rain!

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
32. Yeah, the finance industry is soooo scared of Obama
Tue May 8, 2012, 07:14 AM
May 2012

So scared that they were the number three donating sector(with 48 million) in '08 and are currently ranked third as well with 13 million so far.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
37. I blame Eric Holder
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:54 PM
May 2012

I thought he looked like a really stand-up, follow the boss's orders kinda guy. Guess I was wrong, right?

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