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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:14 PM May 2012

Mitt's treason moment is going to linger- and follow him

this story isn't going away anytime soon.

Perhaps if John McCain hadn't stood up to the woman who mischaracterized then Senator Obama at one of his rallies four years ago, it wouldn't be a big deal, but he didn't. He's so afraid of the bigoted fucks that populate so much of the republican party that he let the comment hang there and overshadow whatever he had to say. And that's how he comes off; as a craven coward with not a shred of common decency. There are headline coming out of this and they ain't flattering for Mitt (Liar) Romney.

Romney stood there blandly while a woman accused a sitting U.S. President of Treason and said he should be tried- a greater criminal accusation could hardly be found for a sitting President and it's a crime punishable by death. And he stood there blandly while most in his fucknut crowd clapped at this batshit crazy comment from this hateful woman. In short, he tacitly agreed with the most disgusting and craziest fringes of his crazy party. No amount of tepid off the cuff "Of course I don't agree with that" is going to erase that on film moment where he goes on to warmly respond to the woman about the Constitution.


Mitt Romney Declines to Correct Crazy Woman Accusing Obama of ‘Treason’
http://gawker.com/5908371/mitt-romney-declines-to-correct-crazy-woman-accusing-obama-of-treason

Romney Blows His Chance at a "No, Ma'am" Moment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/romney-blows-his-chance-a_b_1498106.html?ref=politics

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Mitt's treason moment is going to linger- and follow him (Original Post) cali May 2012 OP
And the McCain comparison will STICK!!! elleng May 2012 #1
Will stick... MarianJack May 2012 #3
It's not going to matter to those who hate Obama anyway. nt gateley May 2012 #2
of course not, but it will matter to a lot of persuadable independents cali May 2012 #9
I hope so! Although I'd think most of the persuadable independents would have already gateley May 2012 #15
True - and Obama's favorable numbers are better than his approval numbers karynnj May 2012 #20
We shall see bluestateguy May 2012 #4
I don't think that's a useful comparison cali May 2012 #10
The way the republican media has nit-picked Obama for nearly 4 years, it should. liberal N proud May 2012 #5
If Ted Nugent "Let it go Bankrupt" Politicalboi May 2012 #6
Some daring DU member is going to sneak into a Mittens rally undercover aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #7
some daring DU member will sneak into a mittens rally iemitsu May 2012 #23
It would be nice but I doubt it because I can't identify who will hang it on him TheKentuckian May 2012 #8
Well I clearly think it is a different situation but honestly... jimlup May 2012 #11
he stands for nothing. he's a trojan horse. spanone May 2012 #12
This won't hurt him a bit WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #13
you do realize I'm not talking about the romney supporters, right? cali May 2012 #14
I know WhoIsNumberNone May 2012 #17
The media never called Willard out for embracing Trump and the racist birthers Adenoid_Hynkel May 2012 #16
R U kidding, I bet he paid her to be there and say that. It's RED MEAT for the base. FarLeftFist May 2012 #18
sigh. you can't win an election with just the base. cali May 2012 #19
Sure you can Alcibiades May 2012 #24
what?? cali May 2012 #25
Of course Alcibiades May 2012 #27
If it sticks it will help Romney SoutherDem May 2012 #21
Romney is a villain! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #22
It's spelled "Vanillan" DCKit May 2012 #26
LOL! Rosa Luxemburg May 2012 #28

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
3. Will stick...
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:21 PM
May 2012

...and SHOULD stick!

Once again, john mcsame comes across as having more courage of his convictions. Of course, bain romney HAS NO convictions.

PEACE!

gateley

(62,683 posts)
15. I hope so! Although I'd think most of the persuadable independents would have already
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

been persuaded in favor of Obama, Romney's made such a mess of things.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
20. True - and Obama's favorable numbers are better than his approval numbers
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:20 PM
May 2012

- and they are over 50%. I suspect that no one who answers favorable to that question thinks he should be impeached. (and many who don't like him do not think he committed anything that is even close to treason.)

Not to mention - it shows Romney pathetically pandering even to the very extreme.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
4. We shall see
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:22 PM
May 2012

I still remember how many people here predicted that surely, SURELY the Downing Street Memo would be the end of the Bush presidency.

Remember? Oh right...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
10. I don't think that's a useful comparison
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:43 PM
May 2012

first of all, I never thought the DSM would be the end of bush. I thought that was absurd. Secondly, I didn't and don't claim that this will be the end of Romney's campaign; simply that it will linger. It's visual, not a memo. It's audible.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
6. If Ted Nugent "Let it go Bankrupt"
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:25 PM
May 2012

Etch A Sketch, Flip Flopper, "I'm unemployed" "Corporations Are People" don't stick, this won't either.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
7. Some daring DU member is going to sneak into a Mittens rally undercover
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:29 PM
May 2012

Last edited Mon May 7, 2012, 11:52 PM - Edit history (1)

and make an over-the-top statement about Obama like he keeps a secret Muslim harem offshore for his perverted pleasure just to see Mitt stand there like an automaton and say nothing because his sphincter is puckered with fear for the Teabaggers.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
23. some daring DU member will sneak into a mittens rally
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:45 PM
May 2012

and double the number of those in attendance.
the crowd will seem overwhelming.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. Well I clearly think it is a different situation but honestly...
Mon May 7, 2012, 10:44 PM
May 2012

I would have said this about W... not to a presidential candidate mind you but I do think W was guilty of treason on several levels. Lying the country into war stands as blatant treason in my eyes...

Not that there is any similarity mind you. Just a throw away observation...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
14. you do realize I'm not talking about the romney supporters, right?
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:01 PM
May 2012

the battle is for independents.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
17. I know
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:12 PM
May 2012

But I doubt it will be a deciding factor for very many independents either. And I doubt the DNC or the Obama Campaign will do very much to exploit it either. They let the whole Teabag Summer of 2010 slide, what are they going to say about this? "He should have corrected her"? That's about as much as you can say without looking like you're grasping at straws.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
16. The media never called Willard out for embracing Trump and the racist birthers
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:05 PM
May 2012

I doubt they'll do anything but give him a pass on today's stupidity.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
24. Sure you can
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
May 2012

Bush did in 2004. The Rove-designed campaign did nothing but pander to the base. The whole Bush administration completely discredited the median voter theorem.

The electoral map advantages Republicans, who will also throw in all kinds of dirty tricks. We had to work like hell in 2008 to overcome it, and we'll have to do the same this year.

Thankfully, time and demographics are on our side. There simply are not as many old white conservative men as there used to be.

Alcibiades

(5,061 posts)
27. Of course
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:36 AM
May 2012

But he didn't carry independents: Kerry did.

The median voter theorem says that political parties will tend to offer policies that cater to the voter in the center, so that they will win with a 50% +1 majority. This is particularly true in first past the post systems, and in part explains the big tent character of political parties in the US and other nations that use first past the post systems. What I'm saying is that 2004 was remarkable, in that, if you look at what Bush ran on in 2000 and then at what he did for 4 years, and then what he ran on in 2004, there's no appeal to the middle whatsoever. This showed up in the exit polls, and on the electoral map, which famously did not include a single northeastern state for the GOP winner.

And that's before you start talking about Ken Blackwell and Ohio.

I agree that, in general, the strategy of appealing to the median voter is dominant. But we have to admit that we saw a black swan in 2004: Bush won with a hard-right record, on a hard-right platform, and continued to govern as such afterward. He won because, while we did our damndest, they did even better, and pretty much every conservative in the US voted, and voted for Bush.



SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
21. If it sticks it will help Romney
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:32 PM
May 2012

While I agree if Romney was any measure of a man he would have stopped the woman in mid sentence or at least corrected her before answering the question.

But, I know a lot of Republicans who agree Obama has committed treason. Why, not because of any action or lack of action but because he is a Democratic President. It was made very clear the #1 goal of the Republicans was to make Obama a one term president. And for almost three and a half years we have seen nothing but total gridlock, much greater gridlock than I think I have ever seen. I honestly am surprised we haven't seen dozens of special commissions to investigate every movement of the president.

By Romney not correcting the woman his approval numbers may go up for the Republican who were not happy with his being the nominee.

We can only hope the independents can see through his shiny veneer and see the crap that is inside.

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