Where are the parents of the police-officer thugs who have been killing innocent people?

[pnwmom]

Why didn't those parents do a better job raising their sons?

Why are the parents of the rioters the only parents who get blamed?

This is a societal problem, people, not the result of individual bad parenting.

[Ms. Toad]

1. Because those rioting were primarily teens.

Their parents are, to a varying extent, legally responsible for their behavior.

The police are adults. Their parents are no longer legally responsible for their behavior - to any extent.

That is not to discount the importance of parental influence on both groups, but they are not similarly situated.

[cwydro]

2. What you said. nt

[pnwmom]

3. I can't tell whether a young man is 18 or 22, just by looking.

But the issue isn't legal responsibility as much as parental responsibility.

Faux news and others want to blame parents for having raised their sons badly. Why aren't they blaming the parents of young thuggish cops for the poor outcome of their parenting?

[Ms. Toad]

4. Again, there is a difference between blaming parents for upbringing

and holding them responsible while they are still, in many respects, legally liable for their actions.

The descriptions I have read indicate that most of those rioting were high school students.

Not to mention that I have not seen people blaming the parents of those rioting for bad upbringing (which is the question you are asking about the police). I don't watch fox news - so I have no idea what they are saying, and that is not what I have seen being said here.

[pnwmom]

5. I don't "watch" Fox either, but I have seen clips of it here. n/t

[pnwmom]

7. I don't "watch" Fox either, but I have seen clips of it here. And the issue wasn't the parents'

legal liability, it was their parenting skills.

They were applauding the mother who was whacking her son in the face.

I think it was good she was getting him away, but I don't think her method should be applauded.

[Ms. Toad]

8. The parents of the police no longer have the right to control their behavior

The parents of teens do. It has nothing to do with parenting skills, at least no in the way you premised your question (i.e. blame for current behavior because they weren't raised right). It has to do with currently being legally responsible for your children's behavior (i.e. can control so you have an obligation to control) .

I agree that her method was atrocious, but she did what the police's parents no longer have the legal right to do - control their behavior.

That is the difference.

[closeupready]

6. Yeah, but that's different. Because ... because.

K&R

[Ms. Toad]

9. It is different.

If the police are out after curfew, their parents aren't legally responsible for hauling their adult children's rear ends home from the police station when they are arrested. The parents of the police don't face having their adult children removed by the local CSB if they repeatedly fail to supervise their behavior to the extent they are endangering their lives or the lives of others. Etc.

The parents of adult police have no right to control the behavior of their adult children. The parents of teens behaving badly not only have a right, they have an obligation to do so.

If the police were juveniles, or those whose behavior is being complained about adults, your sarcasm tag would be warranted.

[951-Riverside]

10. Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

[Ms. Toad]

12. You seriously don't see the difference

Between expecting parents to control the behavior of individuals who are currently minors and blaming the parents of adults for not training them right?

Do you really think your employer should call up your parents when you are repeatedly absent from work - as schools are mandated to do when children are truant from school?

The law treats those two situations differently, because they are different.

[closeupready]

11. No, it's absolutely NOT different. Bad parenting spoils a child's lifetime.

Whether the child is 15 or 65, bad parenting results in violent sociopaths who may join street gangs or may end up becoming law enforcement officers.

And the fact that you dispute this obvious truth is bizarre.

[Ms. Toad]

13. The question is not whether bad parenting is a good thing.

The question was why aren't people questioning the parents of adults for training them improperly but they are blaming the parents of people who are currently juvenile for not controlling their current behavior.

Two different issues.

People who are adults behave badly for all sorts of reasons, including but by no means limited to bad parenting. But the bottom line is, once they turn 18 they are responsible for their own behavior.

Juveniles also behave badly for all sorts of reason, including by by no means limited to bad parenting. But the bottom line is that until they turn 18, their parents are still responsible for controlling their behavior.

The complaints I have heard have to do with the latter issue - kids are currently out rioting and regardless of what caused them to believe it was an appropriate thing to do - their parents need to step in and do the job that is currently their obligation.