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Running for the Democratic presidential nomination is the same as "declaring yourself a Democrat". (Original Post) Ken Burch Apr 2015 OP
The point is that only YOU get to decide that. bemildred Apr 2015 #1
Not really. Just means that in a calcified two-party system, there's no other option. Yet. ...... marmar Apr 2015 #2
Not as long as winner-take-all exists. DetlefK Apr 2015 #8
All that matters is whether there is a concession and a bowing out of the general. joshcryer Apr 2015 #3
And Bernie has already pledged not to be a spoiler, so there's nothing else he needs to say. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #4
Correct. joshcryer Apr 2015 #5
I'd rather not see anyone 'bow out' until it's simply mathematically impossible for them to win. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #17
that's it. And Bernie has stated over and over he will not play a spoiler role cali Apr 2015 #6
State parties may have specific rules for ballot access but I have no doubt Sanders will meet them Recursion Apr 2015 #7
In NY the state party has to vote to allow non-Dems to be on the ballot. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #14
Oh wow! Then Rand Paul can run as a Democrat, yes? leftofcool Apr 2015 #9
Technically yes. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #12
Note that Bernie Sanders is a member of the Senate Democratic Caucus... PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #10
That's just not true Renew Deal Apr 2015 #11
We're not talking about local, cross-party races. We're talking about Dem presidential primaries. Ken Burch Apr 2015 #18
Similar but different. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #21
I'm not sure it's case closed. Adrahil Apr 2015 #13
Define "embracing" Ken Burch Apr 2015 #19
Yes, he made that choice. He didn't have to. mmonk Apr 2015 #15
Since the election seems to have a "fixed" feeling, fadedrose Apr 2015 #16
DNC funding is not an issue until the GE and he will get money if he's the nominee. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #20

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
1. The point is that only YOU get to decide that.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:16 AM
Apr 2015

If you call yourself a Democrat, you are. Nobody in Washingtion gets to decide that.

marmar

(77,077 posts)
2. Not really. Just means that in a calcified two-party system, there's no other option. Yet. ......
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:23 AM
Apr 2015

...... although I think that day is coming soon.


joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
3. All that matters is whether there is a concession and a bowing out of the general.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:24 AM
Apr 2015

For the losers.

That includes Clinton btw.

Anyone can renig on their primary challenge and run as an independent. Lieberman did that crap. What matters is not being a spoiler.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
4. And Bernie has already pledged not to be a spoiler, so there's nothing else he needs to say.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:27 AM
Apr 2015

If you don't want him to be nominated, it's enough that you have the right to back someone else.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
5. Correct.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:32 AM
Apr 2015

He's no Nader.

If he loses I'm sure it will disappoint his supporters and there will probably even be a draft movement (because odds are he does win some delegates, if not Iowa perhaps New Hampshire or vice versa). But he's a man of integrity and will renounce such efforts.

I don't see him bowing out, if he's behind, until Super Tuesday, just to send a message.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
17. I'd rather not see anyone 'bow out' until it's simply mathematically impossible for them to win.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 08:42 AM
Apr 2015

I think it's undemocratic that the same states always get to make their decisions first, and thus tend to set the trending momentum for candidates. We'd have a completely different momentum if deeply blue states ran their primaries or caucuses first. The order has to affect which candidates are 'viable' and which aren't.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
6. that's it. And Bernie has stated over and over he will not play a spoiler role
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:43 AM
Apr 2015

One thing everyone should know here is that he is a person of his word

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. State parties may have specific rules for ballot access but I have no doubt Sanders will meet them
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 05:47 AM
Apr 2015

There may be some X, Y, and Z hoops he has to jump through, but I have absolutely no doubt he will jump through them.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
14. In NY the state party has to vote to allow non-Dems to be on the ballot.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:49 AM
Apr 2015

I don't know if that will apply to Sanders depending on their laws.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
11. That's just not true
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:46 AM
Apr 2015

There are lots of cross party candidates in local elections and it never makes them a candidate of the line they're running on. Often their loyalty is to the party they came from. The only way you have a little more certainty is changing voter registration like Specter did.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
18. We're not talking about local, cross-party races. We're talking about Dem presidential primaries.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
Apr 2015

Nothing in common with your example at all.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
13. I'm not sure it's case closed.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:48 AM
Apr 2015

I mean, i don't have an issue with it, but i do think its fair to ask him if he is embracing the Democratic party. After all, he is seeking the nomination of the party... Its fair to ask if he supports it.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
16. Since the election seems to have a "fixed" feeling,
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:55 AM
Apr 2015

although we all know that is isn't (do we?), let us all hope that the DLC doesn't step in and declare him ineligible for debates, funding, spaces on the ballot, and all that crap that makes one desirable enough to run as a Democrat.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
20. DNC funding is not an issue until the GE and he will get money if he's the nominee.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 07:05 PM
Apr 2015

Ballot space is and should be a concern. States have strange laws about that. Debates could be an issue, but I doubt it since I think all of the Democrats will agree to let him debate.

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