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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:41 AM May 2012

Pregnant mother hit with stun gun, claims excessive force

ahhh, 21st century Journalism. Starting the story with a negative about the citizen before you get into the meat of the story. Yeah---16 kids is crazy, but the cops tazed an 8 month Pregnant woman.

Also: it sure looks like the cops entered the house without being invited.


A woman who is eight-months pregnant with her sixteenth child is claiming police brutality after she says Tampa officers used a stun gun on her.

Tampa police arrested Angel Adams, 39, this week and charged her with battery on a law enforcement officer after a scuffle when police came to her home to talk to one of her sons. She says the stun gun endangered her life -- and the life of her unborn child.

Adams, 39, first made headlines two years ago when she was evicted from her apartment, then moved into a small motel room with 12 of her 15 children. Her story angered many when she angrily demanded, "Somebody needs to pay for all of this."

<snip>
ampa police have a different account of what happened.

The female officer "was at the door, went in to talk to the kid, and at that point, he physically punched the officer, so at that point now we have a struggle," Tampa police spokeswoman Andrea Davis said. "While [the male officer] was struggling with that kid, the pregnant suspect and her daughter were fighting with [the female] officer."

Davis said Adams and her daughter took the female officer out of the house, leaving the male officer alone in the home with four people and at risk.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/may/05/10/tampa-police-use-stun-gun-on-woman-who-is-8-months-ar-400233/
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Pregnant mother hit with stun gun, claims excessive force (Original Post) trumad May 2012 OP
This is one of those rare instances where I believe the cops' version of the events. Quantess May 2012 #1
I believe the cops went into their house without a search warrant. trumad May 2012 #2
I have trouble believing anything that woman says Quantess May 2012 #3
"does not seem very credible" trumad May 2012 #4
No, my assessment is based on the video. Quantess May 2012 #5
Having 16 kids with no clue on how to provide for them doesn't smack of "responsible and stable" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #8
Stun gun? This needs to be locked as off topic and moved to the gungeon Capt. Obvious May 2012 #6
Opening with that first sentence clearly shows the bias of the reporter... joeybee12 May 2012 #7
Moral of the story: don't take a swing at the cops. 4th law of robotics May 2012 #9
Sounds like a stand your ground situation if the officer didn't have a warrant. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #10
They were talking to the kid about a crime when he ran off and hid in the house 4th law of robotics May 2012 #12
I went back to the Tampa Tribune to search for the original article. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #16
16 kids, one mother and no income, it's not surprising that the cops have a history 4th law of robotics May 2012 #17
No--- trumad May 2012 #18
People believed everything the mother said 4th law of robotics May 2012 #19
I hadn't realized you had beat me to the article. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #11
She says the officer used a stun gun on her Rex May 2012 #13
I went to the Tampa Tribune to look for the original article. Baitball Blogger May 2012 #15
Florida. Why am I not surprised? Bake May 2012 #14
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
2. I believe the cops went into their house without a search warrant.
Tue May 8, 2012, 10:55 AM
May 2012

On edit.

Let's say the women had 3 kids.... instead of 16. That wouldn't have been part of the story.

So---the writer starts the story with a negative--- she has 16 kids.

Right then and there the story is tainted to favor the cops.

Now admit it--- you're going with the cops on this because the woman has 16 kids? correct?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
3. I have trouble believing anything that woman says
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:06 AM
May 2012

because she seems unstable.

It's my opinion, and whatever you or I think is not going to affect anything in this case. But I'm just saying, that woman does not seem very credible.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
4. "does not seem very credible"
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:09 AM
May 2012

Now if she had 3 kids and it was not mentioned in the story---would she seem more credible?

See how that works.

First two paragraphs of the story the writer frames the woman as unstable and it seemed to have worked.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
5. No, my assessment is based on the video.
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:22 AM
May 2012

I didn't even read the article. The woman clearly has problems.

Now, that being said, I think it was wrong to tase a visibly pregnant woman in any case, no matter how she was behaving.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
8. Having 16 kids with no clue on how to provide for them doesn't smack of "responsible and stable"
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:15 PM
May 2012

to me.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
7. Opening with that first sentence clearly shows the bias of the reporter...
Tue May 8, 2012, 11:46 AM
May 2012

Lousy, probably racist journalist.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
9. Moral of the story: don't take a swing at the cops.
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012
The female officer "was at the door, went in to talk to the kid, and at that point, he physically punched the officer, so at that point now we have a struggle," Tampa police spokeswoman Andrea Davis said. "While [the male officer] was struggling with that kid, the pregnant suspect and her daughter were fighting with [the female] officer."


What did she think would happen?
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
12. They were talking to the kid about a crime when he ran off and hid in the house
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:22 PM
May 2012

I'm pretty sure that counts as probable cause.

Your home isn't like home-base in tag. You aren't automatically immune there. If you shoot a guy then run inside the cops can come after you.

And stand your ground laws never apply to police.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
16. I went back to the Tampa Tribune to search for the original article.
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:39 PM
May 2012

The police understood this family's history. It goes back to 2010. They should have called for backup, or even called someone from within the agency that knew them, so this could have ended better. This does not make it any easier for this family to get back on its feet.

I agree with you on the stand your ground. Said in a heated moment.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
17. 16 kids, one mother and no income, it's not surprising that the cops have a history
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:41 PM
May 2012

with this place.


But it really isn't acceptable to call backup every time a kid refuses to talk to you about vandalism. It's not like this was a murder. And Tampa isn't exactly crime-free. Those cops called in would likely have been needed elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure they didn't expect to be assaulted when they went in there. 99/100 this doesn't lead to an altercation. If they had expected violence they would have went in with their guns drawn. Clearly they were expecting a different outcome.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
19. People believed everything the mother said
Tue May 8, 2012, 01:46 PM
May 2012

and nothing the cops said. So . . .

She has a history of getting in to altercations with authority figures.

These cops as far as we know do not have a history of tazering black women who are visibly pregnant for no reason.

Frankly in this case I'm inclined to believe the cops.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
11. I hadn't realized you had beat me to the article.
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:20 PM
May 2012

Hope they can merge the two, though my thread seems to have drawn a more like-mind kind of crowd.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
15. I went to the Tampa Tribune to look for the original article.
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:35 PM
May 2012

There were tons of articles on her that go back to 2010. I would say that if they caught her in a lie, it would be the first thing you would be reading.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
14. Florida. Why am I not surprised?
Tue May 8, 2012, 12:34 PM
May 2012

I thought Mississippi was the most f##### up state in the country.

Until recently. Florida wins that one, hands down.

Bake

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