Hillary-Biden 2016

[Renew Deal]

Clinton says she and Biden are 'on the same team'

Vice President Joe Biden joked Sunday that he and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would run for the White House in 2016 "as a team," and in a Tuesday interview, Clinton suggested they are indeed a solid team.

"We've been on the same team in the Senate, we're on the same team now with President Obama," she told CNN Foreign Affairs Correspondent Jill Dougherty. "No matter what I do in future I'd love to have Joe be on the team because he is a great and effective person who cares deeply about our country."
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/08/clinton-says-she-and-biden-are-on-the-same-team

[aquart]

1. I have no idea what situation would encourage an all geriatric ticket, but I doubt it.

[JaneQPublic]

18. Gov. Martin O'Malley as VP, so Joe can take turn as Sec of State. (Nt)

[FSogol]

2. Let's win this election first, ok? GOTV.

[TBF]

30. +1 nt

[Capt. Obvious]

3. Clinton-Joe 2016

[jehop61]

16. K&R

I thought the same thing.................... just because she's a woman, why not use her last name as you did the Vice President's?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. Yay! A DLC double-team! No thanks.

[Carolina]

51. K&R Exactly!

plus these two voted for IWR and I have never forgotten that.

Time for new, LIBERAL blood.

[Ishoutandscream2]

5. I like them, but would be concerned about the age

of the ticket. Plus, Hillary is, and always will be, such a polarizing figure (even though she doesn't deserve it). Like someone mentioned above, let's think 2012.

[Beacool]

31. The most popular politician in the nation since the fall of 2009 polarizing?

That's waaaayyyy old thinking. Things have changed.

[Ishoutandscream2]

46. Well, I hope you're right, then

I can see my radical right buddies, champing at the bit on a Hillary presidency. Hillary can get them fired up in a hurry, and in the wrong way. I like Hillary, and I would love to see her president. But I think she would get a great amount of hatred from the radical right.

[Beacool]

48. She's tough. She can handle it.

The Right has been trying to destroy both Clintons since they stepped into the WH and they haven't had much success. They survived and thrived.

[quinnox]

6. awwww, helllllll noooooo

I have always hated Biden, and Hillary will be too old at that time. Some new blood would be better.

[whathehell]

7. Hillary will be "too old"?...She'll be about ten years younger than Ron Paul is now

and I heard very few make an issue of Paul's age.

I don't like him anyway, but quite a few here do.

[Renew Deal]

8. Ron Paul didn't win

I think Hillary would be the second or third oldest president elected.

[whathehell]

13. Yeah, I noticed, but it had less to do with his age, I suspect, than his problems with the "base".

I'm not a huge fan of Hilary, btw, she's too DLC for me....I guess

I'm just wondering why women seem to "get old" before men do.

[Renew Deal]

15. I don't think that's the issue

Ron Paul never had a chance of winning, so no one cares. Hillary has a chance of winning. Romney is also up there in age for presidents, but he looks younger so people haven't noticed. Romney would be the fourth or fifth oldest president if elected. People talked about age when McCain ran.

I think this is all about something we don't want to talk about. People want the president to finish their term.

[whathehell]

22. I think it is the issue..

The people who supported Paul were PASSIONATE about him

and never mentioned a WORD about his age. Sorry, but

as stated, Hillary is younger than Biden and would

certainly be younger than Paul OR McCain, and, gee, I just

don't hear much about that.

[Renew Deal]

24. Search for McCain President Too Old

12.5 Million Results

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=mccain+president+%2B+too+old&oq=mccain+president+%2B+too+old&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...93.7094.0.7282.28.21.1.6.6.0.120.2028.14j7.21.0...0.0.sV3kKzGp9to

You don't hear much because you're only listening for what you want to hear. When McCain ran there was a ton of jokes and comments about his age. Ron Paul never had a chance of winning, so his age was irrelevant, but I heard about his age from the MSM.

Search "Ron Paul Too Old to be president" 32.9 Million Results.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=ron+paul+too+old+to+be+president&oq=ron+paul+tool+old&aq=0q&aqi=g-q3&aql=&gs_l=hp.3.0.0i22l3.1203.4326.0.5825.21.17.2.2.2.0.113.1549.12j5.17.0...0.0.N25VhKuUANs

And of course if you search for Hillary, she gets less hits than Paul and she already ran for president one time! 22.9 Million

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hillary+clinton+too+old+to+be+president&oq=hillary+clinton+too+old+to+be+president&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...48731.51662.0.51928.18.17.1.0.0.2.211.1439.12j4j1.17.0...0.0.UMU_zO0urmg

[whathehell]

26. Excuse me

but I'm well AWARE of the "McCain's too old" meme....I'm NOT, however,

aware of the "Paul's too old" meme and it may be because

most of your links go to right wing sites, which I rarely, if ever, peruse.

Hint: Don't presume to tell me "what I want to hear"...You have no idea

who I am or "what I want to hear".

Good day to you.

[karynnj]

50. Actually from day one, the CW was that Biden was too old to be the 2016 nominee

Even though, at that time, Hillary - who is a few years younger was enthusiastically pushed. As to McCain, come on - how many "old man yelling "get off my lawn" comments were there. The fact is that the Republican field in 2008 was pretty weak - just like the field for 2012. Likely because in 2008, it was pretty clear a Democrat was favored - now because Obama - in spite of everything is reasonably strong.

[whathehell]

54. Whatever,,,

My bad for mentioning McCain...I know he got the "old" treatment,

but the "get off my lawn" business was as much to do with

his personality as the "old".

[quinnox]

9. I think the country is about sick of Clintons at this point

Hillary had her chance and she lost. Time for a graceful exit, and some fresh blood. That is my opinion.

[whathehell]

11. Well, I might agree on THAT point, but not on age. n/t

[hifiguy]

23. Agreed. I am no fan of political dynasties.

With the possible exception of the Kennedys and they're a special case because John and Bob were killed in their primes.

[Beacool]

33. Speak for yourself.

The Clintons are the most popular politicians in the nation. The far left and right may hate the Clintons, but the average American would give anything to have the economy of the 90s.

[Carolina]

52. Ditto

new, LIBERAL blood.

[obamanut2012]

12. Hillary would not be too old, and she is five years younger than Biden

Good grief.

Why are women always "too old," but men aren't? I guess Biden shouldn't be VP.

[quinnox]

14. can you imagine all the "old bag" jokes the right wing media would be having

women are judged more harshly on age, and its a sad reality. Because women are judged more on looks than men are, so there appearance is scrutinized quite a bit more than men.

[obamanut2012]

19. I don't judge who I vote for based on how the RW will attack them

[Bake]

25. Let me guess ... Elizabeth Warren

Who so far has not won a single elected office.

Bake

[Beacool]

34. And who is only 2 years younger than Hillary.

[Bake]

49. Don't get me wrong, I like EW

And I hope she wins the Senate seat. I'm just not ready to run her for Prez just yet.

Bake

[Beacool]

55. I feel the same way.

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I like her just fine, but she hasn't even won a senate seat and some already want her to run for president. How about learning to walk before learning to fly?

[Bake]

56. Exactamundo!

Bake

[Beacool]

58. Right back at you.

[Poll_Blind]

10. I hope 300 million Americans can cough up a better Dem ticket than that in 2016

Not that I have much against Biden, though.

PB

[Zorra]

17. Warren, Schweitzer, Kucinich, Grayson, Feingold, pick your team. I love Hillary,

but we need a dedicated leadership team that will not stop until they break the control of the 1% banksters, and will govern solely in the interests of the 99%.

Folks that are not under the influence of the 1%.

I'm not sure that Hillary and Joe qualify.

[Beacool]

35. Most of those mentioned couldn't win in a general election if their life depended on it.

[Zorra]

60. Too progressive? nt

[Beacool]

61. Yep.

Too progressive is as bad as too conservative for a general election.

[Oilwellian]

43. Indeed

The Third Way has done great harm to the Democratic Party.

[Carolina]

53. and Third Way was the Clinton way

plus they helped found the DLC!

Bill signed the repael of Glass-Steagall and Hillary voted for IWR!

No thanks, no more Clintons.

[Orsino]

20. No more fucking dynasties, please. n/t

[WI_DEM]

21. I don't think it is likely that Joe Biden would want to serve as Vice President

again after 8 years. Plus such a ticket really skews old. Hillary would be 69 and Biden in his 70's. We need to be building up the party for the future.

[longship]

27. Poor Joe. A legacy as the perpetual VEEP

Actually, he's doing a damned good job. I'd go for a Clinton-Biden team.

I just don't think it will happen.

[frylock]

28. no thanks

[SoCalDem]

29. Our old ones v their young ones?

not a likely winner

By then the economy will be back to "normal", and collective amnesia will be rampant, and a younger, more eager (and undoubtedly angrier) republican field will emerge, ready to take over & start the pillage cycle all over..

[Proud Public Servant]

32. This is the Dems biggest 2016 problem

When we start talking about 2016, everyone I see mentioned falls into one (or more) of 3 categories:

Senior citizens (Clinton, Biden)
The inexperienced and/or implausible (Warren, Grayson, Kucinich)
White guys (Cuomo, Schweitzer, Warner, Feingold)

It raises the disturbing possibility that, next election, you'll see a young, dynamic person of color facing off against an older white guy -- and the older white guy will be our candidate!

[Beacool]

36. Who's this young person of color that the Republicans will nominate in 2016?

[Proud Public Servant]

37. Rubio, Haley, and Jindal are all plausible. So is

Martinez if her family situation changes. (edit: Martinez is older that the other three, but would still be younger than any of teh routinely-mentioned Dem hopefuls).

[Beacool]

38. Hmmm, not sure that they could win the nomination.

More problematic in 2016 will be the possibility that if Obama wins reelection the country may want to switch parties.

[Proud Public Servant]

39. Always hard to predict that, but

At least they have a bench. By contrast, We have exactly one female or minority governors or senator in office who was born after 1960: Gillibrand. And we're the traditional party of women and minorities.

[Beacool]

40. Well, we will see what happens.

Four years is an eternity in politics.

[Proud Public Servant]

42. Very true [n/t]

[LynneSin]

45. All 3 of them come with huge baggage

Hell Haley is probably going to be tossed out next election. She makes Mark Sanford look like an upstanding governor.

[Proud Public Servant]

47. But my point is, they exist

Whereas, we don't even have governors or senators of color, and all of one white female born after 1960 in such a position (Gillibrand). Tis passing strange.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

57. I still think the GOP will f up and nominate Jeb

They can't fucking help themselves.

[spanone]

41. psss there's actually an election THIS year!

[LynneSin]

44. Joe is getting to old to run again but I know another Biden she could pick.....

Beau is the total package.

[Bolo Boffin]

59. He's one on my short list, too. n/t