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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 01:56 PM Apr 2015

What Bernie Sanders Means to Hillary Clinton

Rick Klein: “Bernie Sanders has almost no realistic chance of becoming the Democratic nominee for president. But that’s not the most effective way to think about his candidacy. His presence in the race ensures that Hillary Clinton will be pressed continually and consistently from the left — and now potentially from across the debate stage. Interest in Sanders will be driven by many of the same activists and other Democratic faithful who wanted so desperately to see Elizabeth Warren in the race. And Sanders’ timing could hardly be better: the left is growing anxious over President Obama’s agenda and nervous that Hillary Clinton might be tempted to provide minimal amounts of daylight between her policy positions and his.”

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What Bernie Sanders Means to Hillary Clinton (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2015 OP
HRC is expected to raise $2 billion dollars and I doubt that she will rhett o rick Apr 2015 #1
That last sentence is what worries me: ucrdem Apr 2015 #2
You really would describe Bernie Sanders, a member of the socialist party, el_bryanto Apr 2015 #3
Apparently he's a member of the Democratic party. ucrdem Apr 2015 #4
Give examples please el_bryanto Apr 2015 #5
Dog whistle: ucrdem Apr 2015 #6
What? el_bryanto Apr 2015 #7
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. HRC is expected to raise $2 billion dollars and I doubt that she will
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:52 PM
Apr 2015

worry about moving left.

Sen Sanders is the Populist candidate and will need lots of personal donations from the 99% to try to counter the $2 billion Clinton is expecting.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. That last sentence is what worries me:
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:55 PM
Apr 2015
"And Sanders’ timing could hardly be better: the left is growing anxious over President Obama’s agenda and nervous that Hillary Clinton might be tempted to provide minimal amounts of daylight between her policy positions and his.”


In other words, Sanders is the ODS alternative, whose appeal is basically to conservadems who were never comfortable with Obama and now that Clinton has finally come into alignment with him policy-wise don't like her much either. So here's what i foresee:

Best outcome - Bernie supports the ticket, gets veep pick, and pulls in a few disaffected independents in the general;

Worst outcome - Nov. 2000.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. You really would describe Bernie Sanders, a member of the socialist party,
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 03:58 PM
Apr 2015

as appealing to Conservodems? Are you worried you might be grasping at straws?

Bryant

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
4. Apparently he's a member of the Democratic party.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:02 PM
Apr 2015

But anyway based on recent and past pronouncements, he's never struck me as particularly radical, and in the last six years I've heard him blow the dog whistle more than once.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
5. Give examples please
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:03 PM
Apr 2015

Of the dog whistle.

But if you aren't aware that he has been a socialist for years, than I fear you don't know very much about him at all.

Bryant

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
7. What?
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 04:13 PM
Apr 2015
"It is incomprehensible to me that the leaders of major corporate interests who stand to gain enormous financial benefits from this agreement are actively involved in the writing of the TPP while, at the same time, the elected officials of this country, representing the American people, have little or no knowledge as to what is in it," Sanders added.

That's really going to appeal to Conservodems?

Maybe I am missing what you mean by conservodem - i took it to me Conservative Democrats.

Bryant
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