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Hey freepers/lurkers, this is a democratic socialist..... (Original Post) steve2470 May 2015 OP
Jesus was neither a communist or a socialist. former9thward May 2015 #1
Technically, he did not espouse communism explicitly using a word like that, correct steve2470 May 2015 #2
Actually, Jesus was an ascetic humanitarian Scootaloo May 2015 #6
good points! nt steve2470 May 2015 #7
Not so sure, after the death of Jesus, his remaining followers sold all of their belongings and Bluenorthwest May 2015 #9
That society was very poor. former9thward May 2015 #10
Got a citation? The story as told is chock full of people selling homes, fields, farms, and sharing Bluenorthwest May 2015 #12
I am not Marx but I know his theories. former9thward May 2015 #13
Christian communism steve2470 May 2015 #3
Acts 4:32-35 Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #4
Was Jesus a communist? steve2470 May 2015 #5
pm crowd fun! nt steve2470 May 2015 #8
last kick for fun nt steve2470 May 2015 #14
Love it, provoking post. Interesting and new views, always good- appalachiablue May 2015 #11
I truly doubt Jesus cwydro May 2015 #15

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
1. Jesus was neither a communist or a socialist.
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:24 AM
May 2015

Marx would laugh at your post. Maybe you should get a better understanding of what communism is and socialism is.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
2. Technically, he did not espouse communism explicitly using a word like that, correct
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:28 AM
May 2015

However, he was all about sharing wealth freely, as well as divesting oneself of wealth. Taking care of one's fellow man. Private property was a very low priority, if at all.

We disagree, and I think I understand both just fine. Good day sir.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Actually, Jesus was an ascetic humanitarian
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:43 AM
May 2015

He advocated total divestment of wealth and luxury, arguing that rich men had poor souls. By stripping hteir wealth, they could strengthen their souls for the imminent judgement day.

he was sort of like Gandhi. Gandhi also supported divesting wealth to the poor, but NOT because Gandhi was in favor of wealth redistribution - because he saw money as bad for the soul, and total divestment as the only "cure."

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Not so sure, after the death of Jesus, his remaining followers sold all of their belongings and
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:22 AM
May 2015

pooled their resources "Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need."

They lived communally and shared all things according to need.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
10. That society was very poor.
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

There was no middle class. The Romans and their flunkies at the top and everyone else very poor. Basically 99% of people lived in circumstances similar to what you describe. There was no capitalism. Marx would tell you that society was a pre-feudalistic society. In Marxist theory socialism and communism are only possible after capitalism.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Got a citation? The story as told is chock full of people selling homes, fields, farms, and sharing
Fri May 1, 2015, 10:41 AM
May 2015

the liquid proceeds from those sales. 99% of the people did not live as described. That's just false, sharing all wealth in a community among a diverse non familial group was simply not the way people lived at that time. Sorry. And you are not Marx.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
4. Acts 4:32-35
Fri May 1, 2015, 02:40 AM
May 2015

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,

35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Acts&chapter=4&verse=&t=1


Gotta love that bible communism
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