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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:59 PM May 2012

"This is for Allah. And it's goin' way out there, sucka."

Last night, I watched the original Bad News Bears (1976). Initially, I was magically transported back to what I remember as an easier, much more laid-back social era. I watched a little more, and flinched. I watched even more, and winced. Then it was though an avalanche of the then social mores grabbed me by the collar and yelled, "it wasn't as golden as you remember, Pony Boy!"

(I'm not making *any* social, or cultural judgements-- it just struck me as very odd-- even in the context of a 70's teen comedy flick)

Another odd thing is that the movie was rated as PG. I saw the movie when it originally came out, and though I was only ten or eleven, I remember my mom (the archetypal sweet, little-old Christian lady) was laughing her ass off. Granted, I haven't seen the remake of the film, and am not inclined to either, but if I were a betting man, I'd wager a cool five spot that there's no way the following lines were used by ten and eleven year old actors for ten and eleven year old audiences...


"All we got on this team are a buncha Jews, spics, niggers, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron! "

"Don't give me none of your honky bullshit, Buttermaker."

"the baseball you guys play is for faggots and old farts with nothing better to do with themselves. "

"Goddamn class action suits are gonna be the ruin of this country. It wasn't so bad when the courts made us take girls. At least the ones that came could play, but now this."

"This is for Allah. And it's goin' way out there, sucka. "

"Jews, spics, niggers, and now a girl? "

"All we got is a cruddy alky for a manager! "


I guess i really don't have a specific point to make, other than I remember the movie as being sweet and charming, but seeing it again last night, well... it's still sweet and charming, but in a really mean way.

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"This is for Allah. And it's goin' way out there, sucka." (Original Post) LanternWaste May 2012 OP
+1 HiPointDem May 2012 #1
a movie like that couldn't be made today TBMASE May 2012 #2
Yep, it was a different era... deutsey May 2012 #5
i saw it on TCM recently and had the same reaction Enrique May 2012 #3
my son told me yesterday, as a matter of fact, that he really really wanted to watch that seabeyond May 2012 #4
Dude, tell me about it! I fucking downloaded that movie to watch with my son... Poll_Blind May 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2012 #7
brilliant, brilliant film... Blue_Tires May 2012 #8
I was thinking about that movie earlier today TrogL May 2012 #9
I do not remember Amanda losing her virginity to Kelly obamanut2012 May 2012 #11
I think the bet was DenverDad May 2012 #12
Try watching a late 70's movie on broadcast TV. Archae May 2012 #10
I watched it few years ago PatSeg May 2012 #13
 

TBMASE

(769 posts)
2. a movie like that couldn't be made today
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:02 PM
May 2012

neither could Blazing Saddles.

And the BNB remake sucked major balls

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
5. Yep, it was a different era...
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:28 PM
May 2012

I think in that post-Lenny Bruce time, the things the OP cites (along with Blazing Saddles among other examples) were seen more as liberating than offensive. A good example of this was the SNL skit between Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor called Word Association where they both trade racist insults, culminating with Chase saying the "n-word" and Pryor responding with a menacing "Dead Honky." The audience went wild with laughter.

It was as though through openly, honestly, and humorously venting/exposing these sentiments people thought they could dissipate or control them.

But there's such a fine line there between liberating ourselves through naming the demons and reinforcing them.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. i saw it on TCM recently and had the same reaction
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:15 PM
May 2012

the "Jews, spics, etc." line especially.

I saw it at as a kid too, it was very much a kids movie, we saw it at a theater that played kids movies almost exclusively (the Will Rogers theater in Chicago). Maybe there was controversy, I don't know, but I certainly wasn't aware of any.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. my son told me yesterday, as a matter of fact, that he really really wanted to watch that
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:17 PM
May 2012

my mind was processing what i remembered from the movie, and i remember parts... (you have mentioned some) that made us wince way back when.

so it is funny you bring it up

i let him watch foul play the other night. walk into the room with the scene of dudleys apartment. he is an innocent 14, lol. he was syaing, cool apartment. i want one of those. i am laughing. as he turns on strobe light, music.... then as it continues, i am laughing, he is saying, wait... no wait... take that back.

i laughed so hard. so did hubby when i told him.

sigh... lol

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
6. Dude, tell me about it! I fucking downloaded that movie to watch with my son...
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:33 PM
May 2012

...and (as I always do) I watched a bit of it just to make sure it was as entertaining as it was when I saw it when I was a kid. That "jews, spics, niggers" thing happens pretty early on in the film and so I was still in quick preview mode when I came across it.

My jaw dropped. I was like "How the FUCK did I not remember this shit?"

Needless to say, that didn't make the playlist for our viewing that evening. I think it was a documentary on Jesse James and his gang or something like that.

But seriously...I know exactly what you're talking about.

PB

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TrogL

(32,822 posts)
9. I was thinking about that movie earlier today
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:56 PM
May 2012

Something about the girl losing her virginity over a game (air hockey??). At least I assume that's what she meant by "do me".

obamanut2012

(26,049 posts)
11. I do not remember Amanda losing her virginity to Kelly
Tue May 8, 2012, 05:15 PM
May 2012

Over the air hockey game bet. And, Is wear I've seen that movie probably 100 times since it came out.

DenverDad

(353 posts)
12. I think the bet was
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

if Amanda won, Kelly had to play for the Bears. If Kelly won, Amanda had to go to the Rolling Stones concert with him.

Archae

(46,311 posts)
10. Try watching a late 70's movie on broadcast TV.
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:58 PM
May 2012

Great example: "Smokey And The Bandit 2."

When it's put on broadcast TV or even most cable channels, it's BUTCHERED.

("Bad" language, donchu know.)

PatSeg

(47,351 posts)
13. I watched it few years ago
Tue May 8, 2012, 06:40 PM
May 2012

and was shocked at how crude and tasteless it was. I didn't even watch the whole movie. I don't think we saw it when it first came out, unless I blocked it in my mind.

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