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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:35 PM May 2015

Did Tesla Just Kill Nuclear Power?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2015/05/01/did-tesla-just-kill-nuclear-power/
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Roglans-Ribas had just finished arguing that any future free of fossil fuels would need nuclear power, which provides carbon-free energy 24 hours a day, supplying the reliability lacking in renewables like solar and wind.

Gundersen called that claim a “marketing ploy.” “We all know that the wind doesn’t blow consistently and the sun doesn’t shine every day,” he said, “but the nuclear industry would have you believe that humankind is smart enough to develop techniques to store nuclear waste for a quarter of a million years, but at the same time human kind is so dumb we can’t figure out a way to store solar electricity overnight. To me that doesn’t make sense.”

Then Gundersen told the audience of about 80 students and visitors that it was a momentous day in history—because of something that was about to happen in California. He evoked Elon Musk, the founder of PayPal, chairman of SpaceX and SolarCity, and the product architect for Tesla Motors:

“At about ten ‘o’clock tonight he’s going to hold a press conference and he’s going to announce that he’s going to build industrial scale storage batteries. While the announcement is still two hours away, it appears that they’ll be able to produce these large batteries for about 2¢ per kilowatt hour. That’s an enormous breakthrough,” Gundersen said.

“So the nuclear argument that they’re the only 24-7 source is off the table now because Elon Musk has convinced me that industrial scale storage is in fact possible, and it’s here.”

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Did Tesla Just Kill Nuclear Power? (Original Post) ErikJ May 2015 OP
Not yet, but they may. leftofcool May 2015 #1
It's good. I don't know what the economic feasiblity of every house having lithium batteries is. Gregorian May 2015 #2

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
1. Not yet, but they may.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:44 PM
May 2015

I am certainly interested in if not using their battery with solar panels for full power, at least as a back up. I do, however want to wait a couple of years to see what happens and to make sure this is not going to be just another of Elon's publicity stunts.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
2. It's good. I don't know what the economic feasiblity of every house having lithium batteries is.
Fri May 1, 2015, 04:45 PM
May 2015

...and photovoltaics.

But it's not a simple comparison, if we have nuclear waste to deal with (which nuclear proponents poo-poo (just use breeder reactors, or whatever the French do.)).

It's a start. Eventually we can't be so independently dispersed, is my feeling. Millions of batteries and photovoltaics takes a lot of energy to produce, and a lot of waste at the end, unless designed for recycling, which is probably the case.



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