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When It's Okay To Riot (according to the media & many white people) (Original Post) napkinz May 2015 OP
We need to see this and pass it on...thanks. libdem4life May 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalElite May 2015 #2
This post should have hundreds of recs BumRushDaShow May 2015 #3
"There are DUers who can't see the hypocrisy" napkinz May 2015 #9
I don't think any of those are reasons to riot mythology May 2015 #4
this post is not about rioting as it is about PERCEPTIONS of what constitutes rioting napkinz May 2015 #7
+1 treestar May 2015 #23
Racism is racism is racism. Period. THIS POST is racial politics. democrat2thecore May 2015 #5
this post does not condone rioting ... it's about PERCEPTIONS of what constitutes rioting napkinz May 2015 #8
Sorry but BumRushDaShow May 2015 #12
I have been seriously considering Sanders for my vote gollygee May 2015 #25
Here in these United States we are free to say anything we like so far as we are ineffectual. hunter May 2015 #6
I'm white DashOneBravo May 2015 #10
Huge K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2015 #11
you're welcome WillyT napkinz May 2015 #13
Two words: Cali_Democrat May 2015 #14
Well framed! Mahalo napkinz for these compelling graphics depicting the injustice. Cha May 2015 #15
thanks Cha! napkinz May 2015 #20
Thank you! Cha May 2015 #22
K & R RecoveringJournalist May 2015 #16
Love, love, love that poster. I wonder if Rand Paul thinks the kids rioting in KY (his state) had okaawhatever May 2015 #17
Rand Paul, Father Of The Year ;) napkinz May 2015 #27
... napkinz May 2015 #29
Big K and R! Gemini Cat May 2015 #18
... Jamaal510 May 2015 #19
Nobody ever said any of that was okay melman May 2015 #21
It doesn't result in a ton of media attention, and use of the words "thugs" and "monsters" gollygee May 2015 #26
it's not about condoning riots; it's about the HYPOCRISY in how the media report the actions napkinz May 2015 #28
Or when black people moved into their towns treestar May 2015 #24
K&R SalviaBlue May 2015 #30
thanks for changing your title questionseverything May 2015 #31
agreed Skittles May 2015 #32

Response to napkinz (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(128,839 posts)
3. This post should have hundreds of recs
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:43 PM
May 2015

But I know it will sink.

There are DUers who can't see the hypocrisy.

There was a LBN post that was self-deleted because it was about a story from last fall - but the subject was Belgians in a massive protest against "austerity" in Brussels with many protestors doing their best to bring the place down.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824057/Brussels-burns-100-000-protesters-clash-police-march-against-EU-austerity-measures.html

Say "austerity in Europe" on DU and this guy would be touted as a "hero" -



But in Baltimore, not so much.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. I don't think any of those are reasons to riot
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:48 PM
May 2015

Granted rioting over sports or pumpkins has a higher degree of stupidity, but none are reasons to resort to destroying property and stealing.

democrat2thecore

(3,572 posts)
5. Racism is racism is racism. Period. THIS POST is racial politics.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

Whites are good - blacks are bad.
Blacks are good - whites are bad.
Bernie For President....where it's about CLASS - not race.

BumRushDaShow

(128,839 posts)
12. Sorry but
Fri May 1, 2015, 09:25 PM
May 2015

the below will guarantee that he will he will have difficulty getting the most loyal of the Democratic electorate to vote for him -

<...>

On African-American support for Democrats

Well, here's what you got. What you got is an African-American president, and the African-American community is very, very proud that this country has overcome racism and voted for him for president. And that's kind of natural. You've got a situation where the Republican Party has been strongly anti-immigration, and you've got a Hispanic community which is looking to the Democrats for help.

But that's not important. You should not be basing your politics based on your color. What you should be basing your politics on is, how is your family doing? ... In the last election, in state after state, you had an abysmally low vote for the Democrats among white, working-class people. And I think the reason for that is that the Democrats have not made it clear that they are prepared to stand with the working-class people of this country, take on the big money interests. I think the key issue that we have to focus on, and I know people are uncomfortable about talking about it, is the role of the billionaire class in American society.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2014/11/19/365024592/sen-bernie-sanders-on-how-democrats-lost-white-voters


White privilege allows his dismissal of the reality of a good-sized demographic in this country. But since he never was a "Democrat" but decided to run as one now, he seems to miss the dynamic.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. I have been seriously considering Sanders for my vote
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:15 AM
May 2015

However if he does ignore racism, as you are suggesting, NO WAY will I vote for him. I hope you're wrong.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
6. Here in these United States we are free to say anything we like so far as we are ineffectual.
Fri May 1, 2015, 08:51 PM
May 2015

Push too far beyond that boundary and one could end up smeared and discredited by the mass media, sitting isolated from the world in a prison cell, living in anonymous exile, or simply dead.


napkinz

(17,199 posts)
20. thanks Cha!
Sat May 2, 2015, 04:04 AM
May 2015
11 Stunning Images Highlight the Double Standard of Reactions to Riots Like Baltimore

By Derrick Clifton April 27, 2015

The city of Baltimore has been besieged by riots Monday night — and police are on the scene ready to serve, protect and subdue.

This has become an evergreen narrative in the aftermath of reactions to state-sanctioned violence against black people. But that it persists sends a troubling message about how officials and, by extension, many of the people they serve regard rioting: specifically, when there's white people involved versus mostly black people.

Usually, if a riot involves black people, it's connected to intense episodes of where systemic racism is undoubtedly at work. These episodes include the 1992 Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King beating verdict, the riots in Oakland after the 2009 BART Police shooting of Oscar Grant, and the national outcry immediately following the 1968 assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. That outcry included the city of Baltimore, where blacks now represent roughly 2 out of 3 residents.

But when a mob of mostly white people take to the streets, vandalizing cars, storefronts and street signs in the process it usually means someone either won or lost a game.

As Mic's Zak Cheney-Rice noted in January, these rioters are usually called "revelers," "celebrants" and "fans." They're not even called "rioters" in many cases. They're not derided as "criminals," "thugs," "pigs" or even "violent." Those descriptors, as events in Baltimore Monday night reveals yet again, are only reserved for black people. They're the ones who need to be quelled by militarized police forces. They're the ones who need to be off the streets, immediately. They're diminishing the validity of their cause. Yet somehow, reckless behavior over a sports team, not a systemic matter of life and death, is viewed as a costly nuisance.

read more: http://mic.com/articles/116680/11-stunning-images-highlight-the-double-standard-of-reactions-to-riots-like-baltimore

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
17. Love, love, love that poster. I wonder if Rand Paul thinks the kids rioting in KY (his state) had
Fri May 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
May 2015

bad fathers or is it just when black kids riot? Note: For a double dose of hypocrisy Rand Paul made that comment the same weekend his son was arrested for DUI, crashing into a parked car and failure to maintain insurance AT 11:24 ON A SUNDAY MORNING!!.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
26. It doesn't result in a ton of media attention, and use of the words "thugs" and "monsters"
Sat May 2, 2015, 09:17 AM
May 2015

which is the point.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
28. it's not about condoning riots; it's about the HYPOCRISY in how the media report the actions
Sat May 2, 2015, 10:47 AM
May 2015

it's about a double standard

-- young white people destroy property and it's reported as just "kids getting a little out of control while having fun"

-- young black people destroy property and it's reported as "a riot by thugs"

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