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(17,796 posts)ananda
(28,783 posts)Thank you Senator Sanders!
Triana
(22,666 posts)Democratic Socialism and Socialism are different things. Sanders explained that in this interview. It's an important distinction.
It will be used like the Dean Scream and it is everyone's job to educate friends and family that Stalin isn't running for president. Fox News is building the graphics right now.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Because Scandinavia is a hellhole of racism and sexism and that's what Bernie wants for us!
Nay
(12,051 posts)was coming out of people who should know better. I keep telling people that PROPAGANDA WORKS, and RW shit about socialism, Scandinavian countries, etc., has been embedded deeply into this country's mythology -- so deeply that so-called liberals spout it!!!
Mind-numbing and sad at the same time!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)I'm constantly confronting stuff in my own head that I
have somehow downloaded from the purveyors of misinformation.
Some of this stuff is SO OLD and still affects me. But one of
my favorite life experiences is when I learn that something I
totally believe is utterly wrong.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Then it became whenever the subject came up, "Well, Scandinavia is racist and sexist..." It makes this place look as ignorant and uninformed as freeperville. And that's me being generous.
Within a couple of days of Sanders entering the race, I learned that Scandanavia is a hive of sexism and racism, and OWS was a rich white boy's frat party.
Crazy how these things never came up before!
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)made you a flaming racist. Because someone somewhere told people that social and economic justice are diametrically opposed. Except they forgot to tell these people
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Why can't people just say "I prefer Hillary?"
That's rhetorical, by the way.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I have yet to hear a good argument why one prefer Hillary other than "she can raise lots of money and that's the only way to beat Republicans." Boo! But posing as a "supporter" and then throwing around some of the worst smears imaginable is seriously twisted.
This is a person who experienced his family members killed in the holocaust when he was a child but now he's some kind of white supremacist?
http://www.religionnews.com/2015/04/29/5-faith-facts-bernie-sanders-unabashedly-irreligious/
Trying to libel a person as a sexist racist is a pretty serious charge. Libeling someone who has a long track record of fighting harder than anyone for social justice and taking his knocks and being made fun of because of it is just despicable. It is a disgusting tactic and I expect to see more of it because there is no other way to attack him.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)rbnyc
(17,045 posts)...because Scandinavians are racist??
That was nuts.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)guaranteed paid maternity leave for BOTH parents, free college and free childcare because dammit those Scandinavians!
merrily
(45,251 posts)I haven't seen high rec numbers like that at DU day after day, post after post.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Ya educating fug supporters whatever.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Maedhros
(10,007 posts)No weasel words.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)kentuck
(110,950 posts)He went on to say that America does a lot of things very well but there are some areas where we can learn from others.
"Look, the fact of the matter is, we do a lot in our country, which is good, but we can learn from other countries. "
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)A very important part of the quote because when the quote is cut short some people paint it as being a snooty European elitist.
polichick
(37,152 posts)that I wished our country looked more like Scandinavia regarding pro-citizen policies.
Thrilled with Bernie's unapologetic stance!
progressoid
(49,825 posts)I said, "Obama? A socialist? I wish!"
She was not amused.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)"Yes, and...? What's your point?"
Which is excellent. Make them explain why their little gotchas are supposed to be gotchas. Don't accept the premise of their bullshit.
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)tried to sham marry me off to a swede, for the citizenship.
statutory rape concerns aside, I don't think even republicans will take that attack ad v seriously.
Logical
(22,457 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
chknltl
(10,558 posts)(actually did already but I wanted to say something other than KnR)
tclambert
(11,080 posts)Which means inferior, because . . . America! We must be the best at everything, because . . . America! And also . . . America!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
lordsummerisle
(4,649 posts)so I don't know if this has been discussed, but what about Bernie's age? I believe if he were to win he would be 75, which is even older than Reagan was when he assumed office. Given the enormous pressures on this office and how rapidly Presidents age while serving, is anyone concerned that Bernie might not not even survive one term?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Hillary was a Goldwater Girl. I'll take 75 years of honesty and good judgement.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)So far, Stephaopoulos fell on his d**k during this brilliant exchange!
certainot
(9,090 posts)i hope bernie supporters will start monitoring rw radio for him so the swiftboating will not go unanswered.
as long as the billionaires' think tanks can take free potshots at him 24/7 from 1000 radio stations the left cannot honestly say it's "getting bernie's back".
anyone who thinks it won't make a difference is an idiot. and there are students/faculty/employees/communities around 90 major universities that want to support him while their efforts are undone by those same universities. those would be great places to protest for bernie. and without those school mascots to help them sell advertising many of those stations would go broke or have to change format.
until the left stops giving rw radio a free speech free ride guys like bernie won't have a chance. that unchallenged nationally coordinated buzz is the major tool they have used to shift the political spectrum right and turn socialism=bad, conservatism=good. and if he becomes significant they're going to make shit up about him and repeat it and it will become truth to tens of millions of americans.
here they are, with the number of rw radio/limbaugh stations they rent their sports logos to while they sell republican/fascist lies and swiftboating practically for free. most of those stations have been working for the billionaires for 25 years, creating the alternate reality bernie is fighting against.
from republiconradio.org, which also describes a way to record and transcribe what those stations are saying:
Air Force 2
Alabama 2
Arizona St. 1
Arizona 1
Arkansas 3
Army 1
Auburn 3
Baylor 1
Boise St. 4
Boston College 1
Bowling Green 1
Central Florida 1
Clemson 2
Colorado 1
Colorado State 1
Connecticut 1
Dayton 1
Duke 3
East Carolina 2
Florida 10
Florida St. 4
Fresno St.
Georgia 7
Georgia Southern 2
Georgia Tech 5
Idaho 3
Illinois 7
Indiana 1
Iowa 4
Iowa St. 1
Kansas 1
Kansas St. 2
Kentucky 1
La.-Monroe 1
Louisville 2
LSU 2
Marshall 1
Maryland 2
Memphis 3
Miami 2
Michigan 7
Michigan St. 11
Minnesota 4
Mississippi 2
Mississippi St. 3
Missouri 6
Nebraska 6
Nevada 1
New Mexico 2
New Mexico St. 1
North Carolina 8
North Carolina State 3
Notre Dame 6
Ohio St. 6
Oklahoma 1
Oklahoma St. 3
Oral Roberts
Oregon 5
Oregon St. 7
Penn St. 11
Pittsburgh 2
Purdue 4
Rutgers 1
San Diego State 1
Seton Hall 1
South Carolina 2
South Florida 2
Southern Miss 1
Southern Alabama 2
Syracuse 6
TCU 1
Temple 1
Tennessee 4
Texas 1
Texas A&M 9
Texas Tech 4
Toledo 1
Troy 1
UCF 2
USC 2
Utah St. 1
Virginia 1
Virginia Tech 5
West Virginia 1
Western Michigan 1
Washington 5
Washington St. 1
Wichita St. 1
Wisconsin 4
Xavier 1
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The wealthy (Goldman-Sachs for example) want to keep it that way. The Populist Candidate wants to rebuild America and the 99% to lead the world in the categories other than wealth disparity.