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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:59 PM May 2015

suffering is “part of the human condition" says repub who wants women to carry dead fetuses 2 term

Texas Republican Wants Women to Carry Deceased Fetuses to Full Term
The proposed amendment is so insane, even his GOP colleagues are repulsed.
By Leslie Salzillo / Daily Kos May 4, 2015


Last week in Texas, a Republican lawmaker proposed an amendment so outrageous, that even some of his own GOP colleagues were repulsed. Andrea Grimes, with RH Reality, reports:.



Rep. Matt Schaefer (R-Tyler) put forward an amendment that would make it illegal to terminate a pregnancy after 20 weeks, even if a fetus “has a severe and irreversible abnormality,” effectively forcing families with wanted, but unsustainable pregnancies to carry to term at the behest of the state and against the advice of their doctors or their own wishes.
What would cause a lawmaker to want the government to inflict more emotional pain onto an already grieving family, in addition to adding a major health risk to the mother? Does he not realize a woman can easily die of sepsis by carrying a nonviable fetus?

Schaefer said that suffering is “part of the human condition, since sin entered the world.”
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/texas-republican-wants-women-carry-deceased-fetuses-full-term

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suffering is “part of the human condition" says repub who wants women to carry dead fetuses 2 term (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA May 2015 OP
I'd support ... CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #1
it is pyschological torture Skittles May 2015 #2
He's the one who needs to do some suffering! n/t FloriTexan May 2015 #3
I guess he hasn't been through the trama... Stuart G May 2015 #25
The religulous loonies sure love suffering. hifiguy May 2015 #4
There is nothing you can do about oafs like this one Warpy May 2015 #5
If this manlike object were an animal this devoid of brain function, he'd be put down yesterday. hifiguy May 2015 #18
+1 Pooka Fey May 2015 #34
Pregnancy is a sin? GeorgeGist May 2015 #6
Sex is the sin Warpy May 2015 #8
Don't women vote in his district in TX? Dems should go door to door with flyers that CTyankee May 2015 #7
edit.gop passed the law before it was sent back to be reviewed Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #9
but he got elected...however, he's shown his true colors...let's hope the CTyankee May 2015 #11
For those so inclined, he's getting absolutely NO love on Facebook arcane1 May 2015 #10
good Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #12
wonderful...many good people standing up and speaking out! CTyankee May 2015 #15
Yet they passed it according to article. There CharlotteVale May 2015 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank May 2015 #14
this inhumane little nerd is carrying around a ....... olddots May 2015 #16
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2015 #23
Well said. Jamastiene May 2015 #31
OH MY F@&KING GOD!!!!!!! janlyn May 2015 #17
I wish he would become impacted with the largest turd on the planet. Vinca May 2015 #19
He may as well be against all medical procedures treestar May 2015 #20
Superstition Major Nikon May 2015 #24
I'm fine if he doesn't get a TURP when he needs one Lars39 May 2015 #32
Are Republicans receiving money as a prize for the one who can reach the newest low in their party? Jefferson23 May 2015 #21
If we call him brain-dead, sub-literate, ignorant or intolerant LanternWaste May 2015 #22
Oh, how I'd love for his condition to be one of extreme suffering. Asshole. nt valerief May 2015 #26
Wonder if he's Opus Dei. Laffy Kat May 2015 #27
Remember that story in Game of Thrones, where Jaime Lannister was forced to Cleita May 2015 #28
What a miserable piece of crap. nruthie May 2015 #29
You can tell the people who have never felt physical or emotional pain in their lives. Jamastiene May 2015 #30
You'd think by my age this sort of shit wouldn't faze me. ladyVet May 2015 #33

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
25. I guess he hasn't been through the trama...
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:52 PM
May 2015

Maybe he should go through that , and then we will see what he thinks..

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
4. The religulous loonies sure love suffering.
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:08 PM
May 2015

As long as it's not THEM doing the suffering.

These sadistic assholes would have been right at home in 1930s Germany.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
5. There is nothing you can do about oafs like this one
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:08 PM
May 2015

except point out that his only reason for existing is his deep seated hatred of women. Then get him out of office by discrediting him any way possible.

Publicizing his wish that women die from having decomposing, dead fetuses inside them is one of the ways to do that.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. If this manlike object were an animal this devoid of brain function, he'd be put down yesterday.
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:37 PM
May 2015

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
8. Sex is the sin
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:14 PM
May 2015

but only for women since women are the ones left holding the bag..and the baby.

Their god is a dunce.

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
7. Don't women vote in his district in TX? Dems should go door to door with flyers that
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:11 PM
May 2015

have this information on them. The good people there can't be THAT horrible...

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
9. edit.gop passed the law before it was sent back to be reviewed
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:14 PM
May 2015

As Andrea Grimes first reported in RH Reality Check, Republican State Representative Matt Schaefer has recently proposed an amendment to the Health and Safety Code for medical facilities that would “prohibit the performance of an abortion at the facility on the basis that the fetus has a severe and irreversible abnormality.” And as he explained last month on Facebook, “Fetal abnormalities should not justify taking the life of unborn babies.” In other words, regardless of the viability of a fetus, Schaefer would like to make sure that a woman be forced to carry it as long as possible. Why? Because as he sees it, those fetuses “are going to suffer, they’re going to feel pain” and well, “That’s part of the human condition, when sin entered the world, and it grieves us all.” Grimes notes that Schaefer’s clever idea to legislate suffering “was tacked on as an amendment to a bill about the bureaucratic operations of the state health department, as if it were some kind of especially abhorrent afterthought.” Houston Rep. Jessica Farrar, meanwhile, boggled that “I won’t even go into the level of misogyny I have experienced this session.” Appallingly, the bill passed before State Rep. Trey Martinez Fischer quickly filed a legislative point of order that put it back under review.


At the risk of stating the obvious to everyone with a modicum of human experience and empathy, we are not required by law to suffer, and the government is not in the business of making decisions about health based on anyone else’s feelings about sin. And if Schaefer truly believes, as he says, “We should value what God values, and that’s the life of the unborn,” I wonder why he thinks God himself always seems to end such a high percentage of them in miscarriage?
http://www.salon.com/2015/05/04/when_even_misogyny_is_bigger_in_texas_this_republicans_cruel_law_would_force_women_to_carry_non_viable_pregnancies_to_term/

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
11. but he got elected...however, he's shown his true colors...let's hope the
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:16 PM
May 2015

people of his district have gotten the wake up call...

CharlotteVale

(2,717 posts)
13. Yet they passed it according to article. There
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:23 PM
May 2015

is nothing too anti-woman for the GOP. Nothing.

He withdrew it later but not because he wanted to.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
16. this inhumane little nerd is carrying around a .......
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:31 PM
May 2015

Ugly putrid sack of shit .It is attached to his neck and I would like to knock it off .

janlyn

(735 posts)
17. OH MY F@&KING GOD!!!!!!!
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

There are no limits for these f@&ctards!!! I had a child die in the womb, I would have died had they not removed it!
There are not enough emoticons to show the level of anger I feel for this POS and his gang of buddies for treating women
like nothing more than life support for a fetus!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
19. I wish he would become impacted with the largest turd on the planet.
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:42 PM
May 2015

He must carry that turd until it all backs up and joins the other fecal matter leaving his mouth. What a totally ignorant twit. I imagine if his wife was carrying a dead fetus and all set to die from the complications he'd have her at the abortionist's office in the blink of an eye.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. He may as well be against all medical procedures
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:42 PM
May 2015

Not in place in the 1400s. There's a lot of suffering we don't have to do anymore. So how come this is the only one he recommends retaining?

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
24. Superstition
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:49 PM
May 2015
Genesis 3:16New International Version (NIV)

16 To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3:16
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
22. If we call him brain-dead, sub-literate, ignorant or intolerant
Mon May 4, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

If we call him brain-dead, sub-literate, ignorant or intolerant, will some half-wit imply we're attacking free speech?

Oh well... the lowest common denominators are unable differentiate the two concepts anyway. No reason they would begin now...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
28. Remember that story in Game of Thrones, where Jaime Lannister was forced to
Mon May 4, 2015, 08:38 PM
May 2015

wear his severed hand on a thong around his neck until it fell off? When I hear crap like this from Republican politicians and religious leaders, I want them to wear their severed genitals around their neck on a thong until they fall off.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
30. You can tell the people who have never felt physical or emotional pain in their lives.
Tue May 5, 2015, 01:42 AM
May 2015

They believe stupid shit like this asshole does. What is worse is when you mix that "holier than thou" attitude most of the religious zealots seem to have. Then they say stupid shit like this asshole does.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
33. You'd think by my age this sort of shit wouldn't faze me.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:33 AM
May 2015

But the misogyny that abounds in the 21st century still makes me sick. Even women vote for fuckers like this. It boggles the mind.

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