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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:37 AM May 2015

And now a Muslim outside a Texas mosque has been attacked

Last edited Tue May 5, 2015, 09:37 AM - Edit history (1)

Looks like Geller can now say "Mission accomplished."

RICHARDSON, Texas -- Beefed up security was spotted outside the Islamic Association of North Texas in Richardson Tuesday morning.

A man was attacked outside the mosque, located at 840 Abrams Road, Monday night after leaving evening prayer at about 10:15 p.m. Richardson police say two men pushed him to the ground and beat him in the parking lot.

Others leaving evening prayer quickly came to his rescue, and the two suspects ran off. No words were exchanged and the suspects didn't steal anything.

Police say the attack was so quick, they don't know if it was a robbery attempt or if the victim was targeted because he was outside a mosque.


http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/texas/2015/05/05/man-attacked-while-leaving-n-texas-mosque/26911577/
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And now a Muslim outside a Texas mosque has been attacked (Original Post) mainer May 2015 OP
Way to shift blame. phil89 May 2015 #1
Whatever happened to the idea that people are responsible for their own actions? CBGLuthier May 2015 #2
Mental gymnastics keep the spirit alive. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #3
Your headline is crap. GGJohn May 2015 #4
She has called for a "global war" against Islam JonLP24 May 2015 #6
Cops aren't even sure if this was a targeted attack or a robbery, GGJohn May 2015 #9
Like I trust what cops say to the media JonLP24 May 2015 #10
I think you are attributing to this woman far too much power! WinkyDink May 2015 #13
This is what happened in France after Charlie Hedbo JonLP24 May 2015 #5
"Islamaphobia" vs. "Secular Democracyphobia." Which came first in France, do you think? WinkyDink May 2015 #14
Wahabbism comes from the 18th century JonLP24 May 2015 #15
I hope the mosque is going to be OK. nt B2G May 2015 #7
I heard it has pintobean May 2015 #8
It's mostly the emotional trauma. Buzz Clik May 2015 #12
I really suggest you clean up the intentional inaccuracies in the OP Buzz Clik May 2015 #11
True, it was a MUSLIM attacked, not a BUILDING. mainer May 2015 #16
And you still don't know the motivation. nt B2G May 2015 #17
No. But the fact it happened right after Geller, and it was a Muslim outside a mosque mainer May 2015 #18
Thanks for the edits. Buzz Clik May 2015 #19
What do I learn from reading this OP? That most Americans have no idea how common bias Bluenorthwest May 2015 #20
That is what you see from the OP? JonLP24 May 2015 #21
The crazies are running wild in Texas Gothmog May 2015 #22

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. Whatever happened to the idea that people are responsible for their own actions?
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:43 AM
May 2015

I blame the two assholes who attacked the other day for that attack and I blame those who did this attack for this attack.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
4. Your headline is crap.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:53 AM
May 2015

The Mosque wasn't attacked and Geller isn't responsible for that persons injuries, the 2 assholes are responsible.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. She has called for a "global war" against Islam
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:59 AM
May 2015

I think "mission accomplished" fits with her stated desires & outcome

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
9. Cops aren't even sure if this was a targeted attack or a robbery,
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:08 AM
May 2015

it probably was a targeted attack, but that's just my opinion.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Like I trust what cops say to the media
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:15 AM
May 2015

especially over a violent act on a Muslim.

I just posted in a hate crime thread but was reminded from your post & that of Virginia Fox's calling Matthew Shepard's murder a "hoax" saying the motive was robbery not hate.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
5. This is what happened in France after Charlie Hedbo
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:58 AM
May 2015

Community leaders in France had been sounding the alarm about rising anti-Muslim sentiment since the Charlie Hebdo satirical magazine massacre in Paris on Jan. 7. Now new figures compiled by a watchdog group suggest anti-Muslim incidents have spiked to never before seen proportions. In the two weeks following attacks that saw three Kalashnikov-wielding Islamist terrorists kill 17 people, including Charlie Hebdo cartoonists, three police officers, and four Jewish hostages in a kosher supermarket, nearly as many anti-Muslim incidents were reported as throughout all of 2014.

The National Observatory Against Islamophobia says there were 128 anti-Muslim incidents reported in France between the Charlie Hebdo killings and Jan. 20, compared to 133 last year. The Islamophobia monitoring group, linked to the French Council of the Muslim Faith, notes the figure only takes into account incidents reported to law enforcement. It leaves aside victims who haven’t bothered out of fear or resignation. It also leaves out numbers not yet available for Paris and its immediate suburbs, where a disproportionate number of the nation’s Muslims live and work. The 128 incidents cited are said to include 33 acts, including attacks on mosques, and 95 threats.


“Islamophobic acts have reached a peak of hate toward French people of the Muslim confession never before recorded,” Abdallah Zekri, the observatory’s president, told Agence France-Presse, noting the incidents for the first time included lobbed grenades and shots fired. “These acts against one part of the national community, provoked by little Nazi pretenders who spend their days decorating the walls of our mosques with Nazi slogans, recall a sad past and are reprehensible,” he said.


Indeed, in the days following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, perpetrated by three terrorists claiming ties to both ISIS and Al-Qaeda in Yemen, local French press was littered with stories of violent prejudice against Muslims. A plaster grenade hit a mosque in Le Mans and shots were reported fired at several mosques across the country. Arson badly damaged a mosque in Aix-les-Bains. Several mosques were vandalized with spray-painted slogans ranging from “Arabs Get Out” to swastikas and an ominous “Ich Bin Charlie.” In Corsica, intestines and the head of a wild boar were reportedly found hooked to the door of a Muslim prayer room.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/25/after-charlie-hebdo-attacks-french-muslims-face-increased-threats.html

Firebombs and pigs heads thrown into mosques as anti-Muslim attacks increase after Paris shootings



Twenty-six mosques around France have been subject to attack by firebombs, gunfire, pig heads, and grenades as Muslims are targeted with violence in the wake of the Paris attacks.

France’s National Observatory Against Islamophobia reports that since last Wednesday a total of 60 Islamophobic incidents have been recorded, with countless minor encounters believed to have gone unreported.

Amongst the incidents, a mosque in Le Mans was hit with four grenades, and gunfire directed through one of its windows.

While Islamophobic incidents are nothing new, there appears to have been a marked increase in attacks in the wake of the shootings at the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/firebombs-and-pigs-heads-thrown-into-mosques-as-antimuslim-attacks-increase-after-paris-shootings-9977423.html

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. Wahabbism comes from the 18th century
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:35 AM
May 2015

Islam has been around awhile so bigotry toward Muslims has probably been around. In France, the country has a problem with this way before Charlie Hedbo with the Hijab bans & can probably go far back to era of colonization.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. It's mostly the emotional trauma.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:22 AM
May 2015

The Mosque will not want to venture into dark parking lots unaccompanied.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
11. I really suggest you clean up the intentional inaccuracies in the OP
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:21 AM
May 2015

A Mosque was not attacked. Not at all. It was a single person in the parking lot.

You have no clue what the motivation was.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
16. True, it was a MUSLIM attacked, not a BUILDING.
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:36 AM
May 2015

I have corrected.

Because buildings don't bleed. People do.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
18. No. But the fact it happened right after Geller, and it was a Muslim outside a mosque
Tue May 5, 2015, 09:39 AM
May 2015

makes one suspicious, does it not?

Just like the people attacked outside a synagogue raised one's suspicions, did it not?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. What do I learn from reading this OP? That most Americans have no idea how common bias
Tue May 5, 2015, 10:09 AM
May 2015

crimes are in this country. There are around 1,200 crimes against persons each year in the US officially listed by the FBI as having been motivated by bias against the victim's religion. That's about 3 a day. But just 16.9% of all bias crimes are motivated by bias toward religion. 49.3% of bias crimes are against the victim's race, there are about 3,600 of these a year. Another 20% are motivated by bias against the victim's sexual identity, about 1,600 of those a year. US hate crimes total is over 7,200 victims a year.

So if you take the whole picture, there are about 20 hate or bias crimes a day in the US. I'm taking my figures from FBI's 2013 numbers, most recent to date, and obviously there are far more such crimes than wind up fully adjudicated and deemed bias crimes by the FBI, but also obviously there is no 'trigger event' for these daily attacks, it's just something that happens all the time.
The crime in this story would not make the FBI's list as it stands because the motives are unknown. There are plenty of actual, clear bias crimes against Muslims in the US. Not nearly as many as there are against African American people not as many as there are against Jews or LGBT people but there are many, verifiable, regular bias crimes against Muslims in the US. The fact that all of these crimes are largely unacknowledged by the majority populations is disturbing to me.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/hate-crime/2013/topic-pages/victims/victims_final

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. That is what you see from the OP?
Tue May 5, 2015, 11:15 AM
May 2015

I'm well aware of hate, hate against blacks, Jews, & LGBT. Neo-Nazis & right wing militias especially. I'm not sure why stories get picked up and gain national attention but they do -- I heard of Pennsylvania acquitting a group of men stomping & kicking a Hispanic to death yelling derogatory insults. All of it bothers me.

With Muslims as only .06% of the population they rank behind Jews of religious bias crimes based on FBI stats (the under-reported cases with the FBI numbers smaller than the actual number smaller for all groups and there may be anti whoever bias in labeling) hate crimes clearly has gone up since 9/11 with two men in East Mesa killing a Sikh convenient store owner because he thought he was a Muslim. Gellar going around the country preaching this hate inspires this sort of hate crimes all of it offends me. I just don't understand how you figure all that just from the OP alone.

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