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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:43 PM May 2015

What Sanders offers is the opportunity to change a narrative ...

I really feel like we have an opportunity here. Not an opportunity to make Clinton say things she’d rather not say. Not an opportunity to raise a big huzzah because, finally, we have a candidate from the Democratic wing of the Democratic party.

What Sanders offers is the opportunity to change a narrative that has been beating on us for at least the last fifteen years—a narrative that excludes good, popular public policy from consideration. Raising the minimum wage to where it was in the 70s, adjusted for inflation, is good, popular public policy. Recognizing that the 401K experiment for replacing pensions has failed, and we need to increase social security benefits to make up for that failure is good, popular public policy. Making it possible for a student to graduate from college without a crushing debt burden is good, popular public policy. So is the adoption of trade and industrial policies that benefit everyone, not just the rentiers.

This stuff polls well. Really well. In the 70s, even the 80s. We don’t hear about it because the gatekeepers—the centrist media and the campaign funders--don’t want these issues on the table. These are unifying issues. How do you think 50 something white men in West Virginia feel about medical coverage in the years between the corporate job with health benefits and Medicare? How do you think they feel about their retirement security?

Sanders presents us with an opportunity for an inclusive campaign, a coalition of people across a broad spectrum of American society who have been, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed. They know it—they can read the 401K statement. They get the student loan bill. They’re gonna be working at Home Depot to carry them from their last real job to retirement at 67. They hate the banksters, coming and going.

We liberals have had some success shifting the Social Security narrative. We wouldn’t let the president get away with claiming that he just wanted some “tweaks.” We can do it again by using our now much more open media environment to say that what Sanders is advocating isn’t just gonna win votes in the liberal Iowa precincts. It’s gonna win votes in the general as well, because these issues transcend the identity politics embraced by our friends at Politico, and This Week and, sadly, Clinton’s campaign staff.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/put-real-issues-on-table-this-time.html

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What Sanders offers is the opportunity to change a narrative ... (Original Post) phantom power May 2015 OP
How true. Reminds me of a conversation with a fox watcher just today. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1
For my entire adult life, liberal policies have polled very well, yet we keep losing ground phantom power May 2015 #3
The messenger is the problem. Idiot cons have been brainwashed and wont listen to anyone NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #5
I'm expecting a lot of well-funded pushback to Bernie's candidacy. winter is coming May 2015 #2
I also expect that. Not even sure I mind. phantom power May 2015 #4
Yes BrotherIvan May 2015 #6
we'e already seeing that. nashville_brook May 2015 #9
I am sorry to have to partially disagree. 99Forever May 2015 #7
I agree, he is out to win. phantom power May 2015 #8

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. How true. Reminds me of a conversation with a fox watcher just today.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:46 PM
May 2015

She thinks the Soc Sec fund is in trouble because the government borrows from it.

I explained to her that the problem was the cap, among other things.

She agreed but kind of dismissed it and went with the lies she hears on Fox.

If we REVERSE everything Reagan did as if it was the PLAGUE, we will be on the right track.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
3. For my entire adult life, liberal policies have polled very well, yet we keep losing ground
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:48 PM
May 2015

Time to change the fucking game.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
5. The messenger is the problem. Idiot cons have been brainwashed and wont listen to anyone
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

who is perceived to be on the left.

Bernie is perceived to not only be left but way left.

It is a waiting game to some extent, the idiots will die eventually.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
2. I'm expecting a lot of well-funded pushback to Bernie's candidacy.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:47 PM
May 2015

His campaign threatens a lot more people than Hillary.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
4. I also expect that. Not even sure I mind.
Tue May 5, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

It's supposed to be a contest, not a coronation, and HRC isn't going to be anybody's chump. Let's get it on.


nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
9. we'e already seeing that.
Tue May 5, 2015, 08:12 PM
May 2015

on Sirius, the spin i heard all day today was a giant walk back on "Bernie is serious," with this odd, "how will all these people who fall in love with Bernie be able to vote for Hillary." it was grotesque. cross that bridge when we get there. we have almost 2 years. when i hear this stuff DAYS into his campaign i know that these news-folks are being leaned on hard by consultants and campaign people. folks who will be controlling a lot of media narrative later -- and cutting them out of the discussion, of course.

ETA -- there wouldn't be the walk back if there wasn't the perception that he's a credible threat, and he's in it to win it. that's what makes it so grotesque to me.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
7. I am sorry to have to partially disagree.
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:17 PM
May 2015

Bernie is not just in this "to change the narrative." He is in it as the leader of a movement to fundamentally change the direction of this nation AS IT"S NEXT PRESIDENT. "Changing the national debate" is only the beginning. The tide has turned.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
8. I agree, he is out to win.
Tue May 5, 2015, 07:24 PM
May 2015

In fact, I don't think he could change any narrative if he wasn't serious about winning, and also a credible threat.

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